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Originally Posted by GeorgeA
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Originally Posted by EXE46
There's plenty of crap box cars with DCT standard that aren't marketed to enthusiasts either so I don't buy that argument. M3 has long strayed away from being a car for just enthusiasts. It's a car for who can afford one, same for the 911.
Plenty of deep pocketed individuals buy these cars just because they project a certain image and status. There's manual buy it or get the automatic. DCT was never a substitute for people who are hardcore enthusiasts anyway. Notice the manual is not being sacrificed.
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I disagree. DCT is the best gearbox for those looking for maximum driving performance and enjoyment at the limit. It is the choice for enthusiasts- just look at everyone running these cars on the ring. All of Schirmer (and any other serious builder) only do DCT.
A DCT allows the driver to enjoy the chassis at the limit without sacrificing speed and control to shift. Chris Harris has a great feature about this - I just don't remember which video it was in.
Also, the DCT had SO much character that is lacking with automatics and manuals. The ZF8 can't compete, it's not even in the same league.
I will be getting mine in manual now, but if DCT was an option - it would be hard to choose. |
I disagree regardless of what your or CH says. Nothing beats a manual period. ZF is the substitute for the DCT and while there's no torque converter involved they do share some fundamental characteristics. In that both have automatic modes, as well as some computer deciding what is optimal. Also both have the capability to make any novice looks like a great driver.
Those are facts and the ZF in the G8x is very darn close to the DCT hence why they dump it to save money. Same can't be said for the manual. Just funny that you're trying to dismiss manual and proclaim DCT is more engaging maybe for those who can't drive manual. BMW themselves said it best. Those who want a pure driving experience will choose the manual. That right there tells you all you need to know.