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      05-17-2023, 03:18 PM   #57
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Originally Posted by 02M3ForMe View Post
The comfort-sport spectrum is wider on this car than the last, especially with the 6MT. Yes, it’s tame at normal driving intensity, but it’s a total beast when you rip it. Head to Alice’s, pick a direction, and drive it harder than you’ve been driving it around town.

I predict there will be some who give up on their 6MT cars before break-in purely based on the impression the car gives when driving at 5/10ths or whatever. That will be a mistake.

Try the ZF8 version before drawing your final conclusion on the G87. The shorter gearing makes the car’s more manic side incrementally more accessible.

Disagree on iDrive 8. As with most interfaces, familiarity is more important in the long run. There’s nothing unreasonable about having to spend an hour or three learning to use a UI bolted to a complex $60k machine. The payoff is worth it. Even if a few functions take an extra tap or two, I get a far more versatile system in return. Hard buttons in exchange for significantly more screen real estate; easy trade for me. This is Blackberry vs. iPhone. It’s not perfect - I’d love to one-tap into Sport mode like I can on the CSL - but I find it to be a massive upgrade over the old systems.

It seems the F8x N55 and S55 spawned a generation of folks who crave a wheel-hopping, 1500RPM torque hit from their M cars. That’s a very different character from the linear E46 and E92 M cars, which also felt pretty normal when not going for it. The good news is you can actually have your cake and eat it with the 8-speed car; put it in Sport Plus and S3 and the car will eagerly leap from stoplight to stoplight like the animal you were probably hoping for. 6MT gives you that, too - you just have to work harder for it.
he reviewed the ZF8 when he tested the M3 comp on youtube. he basically said he's not a fan of torque converters but it works well for the S58 and probably the trans he would pick. Said it pairs up with the S58's powerband better than the stick.

so he has experience with the S58 + ZF8 combo
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