[IndyRed128i]

Discount tire has told me this is quite rare. Also, the tires have been rotated twice.

Anyone else think needing new tires at less than 10K miles is a bit extreme? I don't drive like a granny, but I also don't "tear it up.

For reference, I do always drive in sport mode.

Any thoughts?

[M2M3M3]

Normal for high performance tires.

[IanH]

Depending on how shit the oem tires are yeah they can be toast in around 10k miles.

My 2015 Golf R came with... I think Bridgestone tires, from the factory... total junk. Actually dead in 11k miles

[IndyRed128i]

Originally Posted by IanH

Depending on how shit the oem tires are yeah they can be toast in around 10k miles.

My 2015 Golf R came with... I think Bridgestone tires, from the factory... total junk. Actually dead in 11k miles

That is crazy!!

I assume all 2022 230I would have come with the same tires from BMW. Is that incorrect?

[IanH]

Originally Posted by IndyRed128i

That is crazy!!

I assume all 2022 230I would have come with the same tires from BMW. Is that incorrect?

Hard to say really, there's different wheel and tire options and sometimes there's different tires on a given model.

The g87 M2's being made today have 3 different tires they might come with, and you don't get the pick.

Look at it this way, bmw gave you a gift, now you get to put good Michelin tires on the car and actually enjoy good ride quality without run flat tires.

[WilcoJunoHotel]

Originally Posted by IndyRed128i

Discount tire has told me this is quite rare. Also, the tires have been rotated twice.

Anyone else think needing new tires at less than 10K miles is a bit extreme? I don't drive like a granny, but I also don't "tear it up.

For reference, I do always drive in sport mode.

Any thoughts?

On my Genesis G70 3.3 the rears needed changing at 9K. Michelin Pilots. I did do a lot of spirited driving in the twisties though.

Wear is a combination of soft sticky tires, high HP engine, heavy foot, type of roads and driving style. Also, if you can't rotate them (like most of our cars), the rears will almost always wear out first.

When I used to travel for business, which involved a lot of miles on the interstate, I would get 70-80K miles out of set of tires with regular rotations.

I expect to get 9-11K out of the rears on my M240i and maybe 20-25K out of the fronts.

EDIT: Just re-read your post. Since you did some kind of tire rotation, I would say that 10K is probably low for all 4 tires. With regular rotations, you should have gotten at least 20K out of them if you didn't drive hard. Hard driving would of course drop that substantially. Fast starts away from stop signs and traffic lights, heavy acceleration out of curves, hard braking - all of that affects tire life. But yeah, I would think 10K is very low for all 4 tires with rotations. If they are OEM tires, you should have some kind of limited tire warranty so they might give you some kind of credit.

[itguy61]

Originally Posted by WilcoJunoHotel

On my Genesis G70 3.3 the rears needed changing at 9K. Michelin Pilots. I did do a lot of spirited driving in the twisties though.

Wear is a combination of soft sticky tires, high HP engine, heavy foot, type of roads and driving style. Also, if you can't rotate them (like most of our cars), the rears will almost always wear out first.

When I used to travel for business, which involved a lot of miles on the interstate, I would get 70-80K miles out of set of tires with regular rotations.

I expect to get 9-11K out of the rears on my M240i and maybe 20-25K out of the fronts.

EDIT: Just re-read your post. Since you did some kind of tire rotation, I would say that 10K is probably low for all 4 tires. With regular rotations, you should have gotten at least 20K out of them if you didn't drive hard. Hard driving would of course drop that substantially. Fast starts away from stop signs and traffic lights, heavy acceleration out of curves, hard braking - all of that affects tire life. But yeah, I would think 10K is very low for all 4 tires with rotations. If they are OEM tires, you should have some kind of limited tire warranty so they might give you some kind of credit.

I had a Stinger GT2, which is basically the same chassis as the G70. Due to the staggered tires I could only get about he same until I went to the Michelin AS Pilots. That got me a whole 2k more miles out of the rear tires. I think staggered setups are going to eat rear tires with no ability to rotate front to back.

I would think we would be able to get decent mileage out of tires on these that are a non staggered setup. My 230i weighs a full 500 pounds less than the Stinger and has less power.

I will be interested to see what mileage people get out of aftermarket tires. I put Continental DW06+ tires on mine and love them. Hope they get me 20-30k miles with regular rotation.

[PP3121]

Car is at the dealership for service. Update stated that tire wear is at 5 mil rear and 6 mil fronts. This is a 2023 M240i xDrive with just under 25,000 miles. Told that they are still good.

All factory wheels and tires; ASRF on all 4 wheels.

[jpf340]

Jumping in with a somewhat related topic. I recently got a notification that my OEM Pirelli P Zero’s were worn on my rears. I doubted the accuracy (I think the warnings are just time based and not sensing actual wear). I don’t drive like a granny either but the majority here are probably more aggressive than I am. However, with colder weather coming, I did not want to brave a third winter in the Pirellis. Switched at about 20K to Michelin PS AS. It took a few days for the My BMW app to recognize I had switched them, but then the alert to replace the tires went away. It still thinks I have Pirellis fitted, so curious if the “replace” alert will occur like clockwork again in 2 years.

[OriginalFake]

Originally Posted by PP3121

Car is at the dealership for service. Update stated that tire wear is at 5 mil rear and 6 mil fronts. This is a 2023 M240i xDrive with just under 25,000 miles. Told that they are still good.

All factory wheels and tires; ASRF on all 4 wheels.

I've got the original PS4S on my 2023 M240i (RWD) and I'm just about to hit 25000 miles. Mine are still good too. I'm surprised they've lasted this long.

[nsdddd]

I wish there were more tire options on the all seasons/non RFTs. I have a '25 m240ix inbound from the port and already have Conti DWS06+ waiting at the dealership to be put on.

[vicbmw]

Originally Posted by nsdddd

I wish there were more tire options on the all seasons/non RFTs. I have a '25 m240ix inbound from the port and already have Conti DWS06+ waiting at the dealership to be put on.

The Conti DWS06+ has been the go to tire on my performance vehicles for several years, a very good choice. A good all around performance tire that compromises very little for most needs...

[pw4]

I just replaced my original Pirelli PZ4* tyres at 40,000km / 25,000 miles. Left rear was getting down to the wear markers; the others still had life in them with about 3mm depth but had got quite skatey in the wet. I drive fast but (mostly) smooth. I think this should be the sort of ballpark to expect for tyre life unless you track or autocross the car.

In Australia, 230i comes with PZ4 and 240i with Michelin PS4S. Both are the BMW-specific star-marked tyres.

I had to go through the dealer to get new * tyres, or wait 2 months through a tyre retailer when Pirelli or Michelin brought in new stock from overseas. I've been told (by someone who might know - no guarantees!) that the tyre companies set aside * tyres for the dealers, while retailers have to place an order which gets added to the next shipment.

[AlexC2er]

I’m down to 9/32 front 5/32 rear after 5k, don’t even drive that hard

[RockCrusher]

Originally Posted by IndyRed128i

Discount tire has told me this is quite rare. Also, the tires have been rotated twice.

Anyone else think needing new tires at less than 10K miles is a bit extreme? I don't drive like a granny, but I also don't "tear it up.

For reference, I do always drive in sport mode.

Any thoughts?

Don't "tear it up"... Hmmm. I wonder.

Generally like gas mileage tire life is under the control of the driver.

10K miles out of a set (4) tires is not normal in my experience with other high performance sports cars. Worst tire life experience I had with any car was the rear tires on my 996 Turbo. 8K miles. And I had not been pushing the car at all.

Turns out the alignment done to the car at the selling dealership was crap. Tires were worn to the belts on their inside edges. *Not* normal.

Tech at another dealer aligned the car after fitting new tires -- same tires as the worn ones -- and tire life went from 8K miles to 20K miles. And that was me definitely driving the car with good tire life in mind. And I managed 20K miles out of the rear tires set after set. (I put 150K miles on the car and new rear tires every 20K miles worn the same as the set before them.)

I have not driven my BMWs any real time in sport mode. I first encountered sport mode with my 2008 Cayman S. I tried it but it gave the throttle a hair trigger and to such a degree I find it hard to drive the car smoothly. Tires would have suffered. But so too would have the clutch suffered.

Later I tried sport mode in my 2018 MINI JCW. Wow what I change. But under any real acceleration I could feel the front tires (FWD) slipping. Had I left sport mode on the front tires would have been gone in no time.

Unless you tell me the tires show signs of abnormal/uneven wear which could be an alignment problem I would hazard a guess you drive the car harder than you realize. And I would also believe sport mode is in part to blame for the tire wear. IOWs, sport mode in my experience turns "don't tear it up" to "tear it up"...