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G87 M2 Road Review Video - Can it be as good as the F87 M2?
Featured on BIMMERPOST.com With our new project vehicle here it was time to get Imran@Evolve's opinion on BMW M's latest offering, and more importantly can it follow in the footsteps of the F87 M2, which became a cult classic very quickly in to its life with many including ourselves saying it was the true M3. But this new M2 is bigger and heavier, and with that increase has I lost a little of that BMW M magic that made the F87 M2 so good?
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08-11-2023, 07:21 PM | #2 |
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Long live the F87…
Only time will tell, but currently it’s turning out to be a really nice m car Maybe not something to directly compare to the almighty F87… But either way the G87 is on a much higher level in many many ways
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08-11-2023, 09:32 PM | #3 |
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Don’t need to watch the video to say NO. Strip the weight and all the useless tech and give us a 3500lbs< car with a manual and no fake engine noise
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Excellent job!! Can’t wait to see the build…. Don’t listen too people who have never even been in the new M2.
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08-12-2023, 12:34 AM | #5 |
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I love the fact that the F87 M2 was more fun to drive then the F80 M3 & the G87 M2 is more fun to drive then the G80 M3. That right there says a lot about the shorter wheelbase platform.
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08-12-2023, 05:22 AM | #7 |
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Agree but the F87 also had fake engine noise—at least the few I’d tried. Even the F87 felt too heavy to me—-this bulky trend isn’t going away
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You don’t call 1430kg heavy. Including an OPF too.. remove that ugly muffler and the opf and you are under 1400kg. Thats actually great for the hp of the car , which was dyno at 484hp. Thats why its so much fun.
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08-12-2023, 11:51 AM | #11 |
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Great, now beat it… ❕
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Well , he mentioned the F87 in general , not a specific variant.
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There are no brake issues, the brakes are actually a high point of the G87. Precise, consistent, slow to fade. |
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Fine for a luxury/sports hybrid. But it’s no sports car that’s for sure https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1794151 Another guy weighed his dct car on page 2 and it was 3580lbs ~1620kg Last edited by fcman; 08-12-2023 at 04:32 PM.. |
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I agree that those scale might not be calibrated correctly , but i wouldnt believe the weight is the same as the F87 Comp, because it simply doesnt make sense. They took 70kg/154lbs from the F90 , with a bonnet and ccb and those seats. The roof was there from before. Ofc all these are assumptions , and thats because BMW gives us false numbers. Adding each component makes sense for Harrys Garage to be right. It also makes sense why BMW might wanted to hide it. Thats my thoughts. The best thing would be to take both a Comp and a CS on the same scale to see their weight.
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g87 looks amazing and masculine, but the f87 compared with g87 looks old and kind of girlish, the only thing I don't like about g87 is the fake interior engine sound and gear-shifting effects, especially considering that in the UK g87 sounds like narcissistic wife choking with a sock.
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The BMW UK press release showed the standard M2CS DIN weight for the manual at 1550kg (https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/globa...02261EN/441458), so the Harry's Garage 65kg weight savings and about 35kg of fuel weight reduction for an empty tank would require another 21kg of weight saving by, for example, removing the rear seat. |
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Caymans start at, what, 3250, and only have 2 seats. Let's not even talk about the 911s. If you want 4 seats, 400+ HP, and under $100K, 3500 to 3800 lb seems to be the new normal. The Mustang DH weighs even more than the G87. It is what it is. |
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Imran being diplomatic about the design…
That F face is so BMW! Mean and beautiful at the same time. |
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