[Rx-7ames]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

My concern is due to my tune (increased power —> increased heat —> cooling more of an issue).

One thing I have noticed is that all variations of the M2/3/4 use the same radiators and oil cooler. That means our coolers are enough to cool the 3.0 CSL with increased performance.

That being said, Mishimoto still offers higher capacity radiators and oil cooler that should cool more. It's worth considering.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Rx-7ames

One thing I have noticed is that all variations of the M2/3/4 use the same radiators and oil cooler. That means our coolers are enough to cool the 3.0 CSL with increased performance.

That being said, Mishimoto still offers higher capacity radiators and oil cooler that should cool more. It's worth considering.

I have the CSF performance oil cooler installed on my build (yes, its for the G8X family of cars).

[Rx-7ames]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

I have the CSF performance oil cooler installed on my build (yes, its for the G8X family of cars).

And I just finished reading through this entire thread. I see now that you have much more hp than even the 3.0 CSL, so extra cooling and adequate airflow would be a must for you especially.

On a seperately note, I'm happy to see so many people adopting the concept of added 3rd party protection here.

We have had 2 G8X engine replacements at my dealership (that I know of) because of damaged oil coolers. This is a rare occurance, but common enough for me to recommend protection to all the G8X owners I come across.

[DSTR]

Originally Posted by Rx-7ames

And I just finished reading through this entire thread. I see now that you have much more hp than even the 3.0 CSL, so extra cooling and adequate airflow would be a must for you especially.

On a seperately note, I'm happy to see so many people adopting the concept of added 3rd party protection here.

We have had 2 G8X engine replacements at my dealership (that I know of) because of damaged oil coolers. This is a rare occurance, but common enough for me to recommend protection to all the G8X owners I come across.

+1 Certainly rare - but expensive, annoying, preventable and time consuming. The small investment to reduce the risk further is worth it.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Rx-7ames

And I just finished reading through this entire thread. I see now that you have much more hp than even the 3.0 CSL, so extra cooling and adequate airflow would be a must for you especially.

On a seperately note, I'm happy to see so many people adopting the concept of added 3rd party protection here.

We have had 2 G8X engine replacements at my dealership (that I know of) because of damaged oil coolers. This is a rare occurance, but common enough for me to recommend protection to all the G8X owners I come across.

You should add G42 M240 (and 230?) to the list, too.

[DarkNight707]

Originally Posted by M2siast

I feel stupid. Especially for posting about it. Oh well life goes on. Thanks for pointing it out. Happy Friday all!

Dont sweat it. We are allowed to lose it a few times a year.

[DarkNight707]

I had a nightmare last night. Ran over some wood pieces and broke something in the front, at first it was water then it was oil, then… I had no car.

[robopp]

Originally Posted by Rx-7ames

And I just finished reading through this entire thread. I see now that you have much more hp than even the 3.0 CSL, so extra cooling and adequate airflow would be a must for you especially.

On a seperately note, I'm happy to see so many people adopting the concept of added 3rd party protection here.

We have had 2 G8X engine replacements at my dealership (that I know of) because of damaged oil coolers. This is a rare occurance, but common enough for me to recommend protection to all the G8X owners I come across.

Curious on your thoughts.

If the driver turns the car off on the intial low oil warning, do you think an engine replacement is still necessary? I’m not trying to knock the OP, but he drove (without another option) for .5 miles after the car said shut down immediately. I think if he was able to shut it down immediately, the engine would have been ok.

[robopp]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

You should add G42 M240 (and 230?) to the list, too.

And M340 too

[KC87ZB]

Originally Posted by robopp

Curious on your thoughts.

If the driver turns the car off on the intial low oil warning, do you think an engine replacement is still necessary? I’m not trying to knock the OP, but he drove (without another option) for .5 miles after the car said shut down immediately. I think if he was able to shut it down immediately, the engine would have been ok.

You would like to think so, otherwise what is the point of the warning.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by robopp

Curious on your thoughts.

If the driver turns the car off on the intial low oil warning, do you think an engine replacement is still necessary? I’m not trying to knock the OP, but he drove (without another option) for .5 miles after the car said shut down immediately. I think if he was able to shut it down immediately, the engine would have been ok.

Originally Posted by KC87ZB

You would like to think so, otherwise what is the point of the warning.

OP said he was "...in a construction zone with no shoulders to pull over, had to drive to an exit(0.5miles). And I was doing 60mph when the failure happened."

He had two choices, risk personal safety and pull over in a construction zone blocking a lane or get off on the next exit. He did the later and I would have done the same. Cars are replaceable.

[DSTR]

Originally Posted by Tag

OP said he was "...in a construction zone with no shoulders to pull over, had to drive to an exit(0.5miles). And I was doing 60mph when the failure happened."

He had two choices, risk personal safety and pull over in a construction zone blocking a lane or get off on the next exit. He did the later and I would have done the same. Cars are replaceable.

Well said. Lets not prioritize a person/family etc over a car that is still being made lol!

[robopp]

Originally Posted by Tag

OP said he was "...in a construction zone with no shoulders to pull over, had to drive to an exit(0.5miles). And I was doing 60mph when the failure happened."

He had two choices, risk personal safety and pull over in a construction zone blocking a lane or get off on the next exit. He did the later and I would have done the same. Cars are replaceable.

I’m aware. I stated the same in my original quesion and you’re missing the point of the question - if the oil cooler gets dinged it doesn’t mean the engine grenades assuming you shut it down the second you get a warning. I never said the OP shouldn’t have done what he did. I’d do the same thing. I was simply asking a BMW tech his thoughts on this scenario.

[robopp]

Originally Posted by DSTR

Well said. Lets not prioritize a person/family etc over a car that is still being made lol!

Who said this? Wtf are you talking about?

[Tag]

Originally Posted by robopp

I’m aware. I stated the same in my original quesion and you’re missing the point of the question - if the oil cooler gets dinged it doesn’t mean the engine grenades assuming you shut it down the second you get a warning. I never said the OP shouldn’t have done what he did. I’d do the same thing. I was simply asking a BMW tech his thoughts on this scenario.

Shutting down the engine immediately is critical but the only way to know if any engine damage occurred is to get a sample of the remaining oil when draining the pan and send it in for analysis and also check the oil filter for any metal. In addition, request a compression check be performed on the engine.

I'd take this one step further; I'd be under the car with the techs when get the sample and even get a sample of oil for myself to send in for independent analysis. I'd also be there when they perform the compression test. But that's just me, I trust no one when the stakes are this big.

[CSBM5]

Originally Posted by robopp

And M340 too

That is only if you order the cooling and high performance tire package...then the additional downward facing oil cooler is added. The vast majority of M340i's do not have that package. Prior to ordering new, I followed the used M340i market for months, and maybe 1 out of 100 cars had that package. We just ordered and bought a 2024 M340i and spec'd out the M adaptive suspension and wheels (which included raised speed limiter) from that package but specifically didn't order the package due to the oil cooler issue (car isn't going to be tracked, so it's not needed...have an M3 and M2C for that).

[robopp]

Originally Posted by CSBM5

That is only if you order the cooling and high performance tire package...then the additional downward facing oil cooler is added. The vast majority of M340i's do not have that package. Prior to ordering new, I followed the used M340i market for months, and maybe 1 out of 100 cars had that package. We just ordered and bought a 2024 M340i and spec'd out the M adaptive suspension and wheels (which included raised speed limiter) from that package but specifically didn't order the package due to the oil cooler issue (car isn't going to be tracked, so it's not needed...have an M3 and M2C for that).

Interesting the take rate is so low. We optioned it with our M340.

[KC87ZB]

Originally Posted by Tag

OP said he was "...in a construction zone with no shoulders to pull over, had to drive to an exit(0.5miles). And I was doing 60mph when the failure happened."

He had two choices, risk personal safety and pull over in a construction zone blocking a lane or get off on the next exit. He did the later and I would have done the same. Cars are replaceable.

I need to ensure I was clear on something. My response was specific to the warning indication question, I am not throwing any shade on the OP. I would have done exactly the same.

As a separate item, I don't think BimmerLink can generate alarms off sensor values. Will be checking and reaching out to BimmerLink - could be a possible help..

[turnsignalslol]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

I have the CSF performance oil cooler installed on my build (yes, its for the G8X family of cars).

Did you switch over to the CSF from your mishimoto oil cooler? I looked at the prices and a new csf oil cooler is only a little bit more than a skid plate from Mishimoto and the latter has built in protection which kind of makes it a no brainer when chasing power.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by turnsignalslol

Did you switch over to the CSF from your mishimoto oil cooler? I looked at the prices and a new csf oil cooler is only a little bit more than a skid plate from Mishimoto and the latter has built in protection which kind of makes it a no brainer when chasing power.

The CSF is an upgrade over the OEM as part of my build for Stage 2 tune. Still utilizing the Mishi skid plate.

[turnsignalslol]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

The CSF is an upgrade over the OEM as part of my build for Stage 2 tune. Still utilizing the Mishi skid plate.

Oh I see, I thought you were using a Mishimoto oil cooler for your g87.

[Tag]

It's crazy how common this shit is, start watching @2m13s.