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      10-12-2024, 12:27 PM   #89
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Hmm. Wonder if my 12mm spacers will rub at stock height (Michelins).
That would suck. I’d have to trim. Not going to drop big $ on new liners and I’ve gotta have the spacers.
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Hmm. Wonder if my 12mm spacers will rub at stock height (Michelins).
That would suck. I’d have to trim. Not going to drop big $ on new liners and I’ve gotta have the spacers.
Won’t rub at stock height
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      10-12-2024, 01:28 PM   #91
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Won’t rub at stock height
My 15mms did not rub with Michelins.
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      10-17-2024, 11:04 PM   #92
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Hmm. Wonder if my 12mm spacers will rub at stock height (Michelins).
That would suck. I’d have to trim. Not going to drop big $ on new liners and I’ve gotta have the spacers.
Before I upgraded to forged wheels I had conservative spacers at 12mm all around with MP HAS all the way down. 0 rub on the liner fins with the oem ps4s. Will be using the r44 fender clearance kit to replace the fins though so can switch to 285s in front and still avoid rubbing.
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If not to disabuse some who may be considering spacers (certainly spacers larger that IND's standard fitment), than this is just to present my experience with the so-called standard fitment. I went with 15F/12R on stock suspension but removed all because of the contact/rubbing the 15mm produced—and the 12mm would likely produce according to my measurement.

My M2 is on Yokohama Advan Sport V107s (OEM tire) and stock suspension. Contact seems to occur with wheels turned somewhere within ~20 to 45 degree range (IDK). Horrible sound produced by contact with the louvers, which increasingly protrude just enough to catch the tire as it's pushed out at least 15mm (12mm also a likely no-go—which I believe some others experienced). Cutting into the louvers just not worth it for spacers (and can't justify the $800+ for wheel well liners designed to accommodate them).

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The r44 kit for enhanced clearance to replace the fins is only around $200 or so just FYI. I'm going that route so I can swap my 275s for 285s and still not rub.
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The r44 kit for enhanced clearance to replace the fins is only around $200 or so just FYI. I'm going that route so I can swap my 275s for 285s and still not rub.
After seeing an install vid, I'm think I'm going to pass. I can certainly see others wanting to put this kind of effort (and expense) into getting the stance they prefer--just not for me.

I did find the R44 Enhanced Clearance Kit itself to be affordable; however, that adds another 2 bills to my spacer costs. Going with the kit "feels" like a sunk cost I prefer not to sink with.

In any case, glad there's an option as my spacers are up for sale (free shipping) here.

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If not to disabuse some who may be considering spacers (certainly spacers larger that IND's standard fitment), than this is just to present my experience with the so-called standard fitment. I went with 15F/12R on stock suspension but removed all because of the contact/rubbing the 15mm produced—and the 12mm would likely produce according to my measurement.

My M2 is on Yokohama Advan Sport V107s (OEM tire) and stock suspension. Contact seems to occur with wheels turned somewhere within ~20 to 45 degree range (IDK). Horrible sound produced by contact with the louvers, which increasingly protrude just enough to catch the tire as it's pushed out at least 15mm (12mm also a likely no-go—which I believe some others experienced). Cutting into the louvers just not worth it for spacers (and can't justify the $800+ for wheel well liners designed to accommodate them).

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Where did you land on spacers? I’m in the same boat as you:
  • Not lowered.
  • OEM Yokos.
  • Stock wheels.

What spacers are you using to avoid rubbing?

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Where did you land on spacers? I’m in the same boat as you:
  • Not lowered.
  • OEM Yokos.
  • Stock wheels.

What spacers are you using to avoid rubbing?

Im about to pull mine off, I really hate that they rub with IND 15F/12R suggested fitment(wtf?!)

Look great but I don't want to cut or trim anything...not worth it.
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Im about to pull mine off, I really hate that they rub with IND 15F/12R suggested fitment(wtf?!)

Look great but I don't want to cut or trim anything...not worth it.
I never understand the suggestion to have the larger spacers in front. Are you going to try just reversing them, so you’re 15mm in the rear and 12mm in front?
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Im about to pull mine off, I really hate that they rub with IND 15F/12R suggested fitment(wtf?!)

Look great but I don't want to cut or trim anything...not worth it.
Just reverse them and put the 12s in front. Will look fine.
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I never understand the suggestion to have the larger spacers in front. Are you going to try just reversing them, so you’re 15mm in the rear and 12mm in front?
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Just reverse them and put the 12s in front. Will look fine.

I may give it a shot, really hate that this is the suggested from IND with rubbing...just me being salty.
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I may give it a shot, really hate that this is the suggested from IND with rubbing...just me being salty.
It's the tires that make the difference - they used Michelins. You have Yokes?
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      02-09-2025, 02:26 PM   #101
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I got stiffed with the Yokohamas lol
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      02-09-2025, 04:27 PM   #102
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The Yokos tread width is 9.8 for the OE fronts. The corresponding Michelin P4S are 8.9. I have the Yoko’s as well which I like with VT Forged on the way. I may experience the same issue. May just purchase Michelins for the new wheels then.
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      02-09-2025, 06:32 PM   #103
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Where did you land on spacers? I’m in the same boat as you:
  • Not lowered.
  • OEM Yokos.
  • Stock wheels.

What spacers are you using to avoid rubbing?
I'm spacer free--and will likley stay that way. Just not that big of a deal for me. Brought this up with IND. They were surprised to hear about those with different OEM tires having this rubbing issue. They mentioned the RKP fender liners. That's too expensive (to me) a solution just to fit spacers. There are far, far cheaper solutions for replacing those louvers (Amazon carries a set of bolt in mesh plates for $88) if one wants to go that way.

I didn't try fitting the 12mm up front (accordingly, I had 15s front, 12s rear). I should have tried to fit the pair I had (ugh!), but my eyeball measurement didn't inspire my confidence...but the 12s --just-- might clear the louvers. If I found a pair of 12s to test, I'd throw them on to see.
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