[anthemavm]

I am currently looking at a 2024 M3CS, but my neighbor let me drive his 2024 911 Carrera. No questions the fit and finish is nicer, and the porsche handles like a dream. Just not sure I want to leave BMW, the CS is a beast and love my 24 M2.

Thoughts.

[dgoldenz]

I’m on my 8th 911. 997.2 GTS or 991.1 GTS is where you want to be.

[anthemavm]

Originally Posted by dgoldenz

I’m on my 8th 911. 997.2 GTS or 991.1 GTS is where you want to be.

If you were going to buy a 992 today and had $150,000 what would you buy?

[Honda]

Originally Posted by anthemavm

If you were going to buy a 992 today and had $150,000 what would you buy?

NO

[dgoldenz]

Originally Posted by anthemavm

If you were going to buy a 992 today and had $150,000 what would you buy?

A 991.1 GTS or 997.2 GTS and $30-60k in my pocket. I had a 992 GTS, didn’t like it as much.

[djdiapers]

I just traded my 2019 M5 for a 2025 911 Carrera. I definitely would tell you to make the change and you don't need a Turbo S or GTS to enjoy the car as a daily. You can only drive so fast on normal roads in the Northeast USA.

[slilley]

Yep, I did it - originally for a 2011' 997.2 911 C2S. Now I've got a '22 Cayman GTS 4.0. BMW M cars generally make more power, have more tech features, and cost less than their P-car alternatives. However, in my admittedly biased experience, the Porsche experience is even better when it comes to driving dynamics. Steering is perfection. And no super-fat steering wheel either. I'd definitely recommend anyone who's an automotive enthusiast to own at least one Porsche and decide for themselves. But I do love my wife's X5! And my daugher's X1 and the other daughter's Mini Cooper S. I just love the Porsche more than all the others. :-)

[Murf the Surf]

Went from a Z4MC to a 993, no regrets.

[ash_schwin]

Had a 991.2 911 before my G80 M3. Was a great car and enjoyed my time with it, but it was a bare bones poverty spec and all maintenance and mods were much pricier. However, if I had $150K to spend, I would rather explore a V10 R8 as an option.

[anthemavm]

Originally Posted by ash_schwin

Had a 991.2 911 before my G80 M3. Was a great car and enjoyed my time with it, but it was a bare bones poverty spec and all maintenance and mods were much pricier. However, if I had $150K to spend, I would rather explore a V10 R8 as an option.

I have thought about the audi r8, but just not sure those will hold value in the future. A dream car is the V10 Spyder.

[BlkGS]

The question is if you need 4 doors. If not, spending way more money for the 911 makes sense. If you do, why the hell would you consider a 911?

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by anthemavm

I am currently looking at a 2024 M3CS, but my neighbor let me drive his 2024 911 Carrera. No questions the fit and finish is nicer, and the porsche handles like a dream. Just not sure I want to leave BMW, the CS is a beast and love my 24 M2.

Thoughts.

Modern 911 ownership has become an eye-watering experience that is somewhat ....diluted. What do you want from a performance car? Do you enjoy the tech or the comfort etc? What are the roads like where you live? Would it be a daily or a fair weather driver?

[x622]

I hated my 992 Turbo S. It was very fast sure, but it was by far the most boring vehicle I've owned. It was so refined that you really only felt it unless you were doing 9-10/10ths in a corner. The modes didn't make it go from nice cruiser to serial killer.

I would skip a 992 TTS but I really enjoy driving 997.2 GT2/3RS's. They still feel like a lot of fun and have that telepathic ability where you feel where you are at and know precisely where the limit lies without it being a boring clinical experience.

I like porsches, and if they weren't priced so high I'd consider having a few but the problem as others have mentioned is that they've turned into speculator cars where people just buy them to show they drive a Porsche. If I buy a car I want to beat the piss out of it. I want to know how it likes to slide. I want to take it to the track and compare it to my track car.

Problem is $200-300k gets you a lot of different cool cars. 3-500k like the Weissach 2RS? Yeah you could do that. Or you could just get a 488 Pista or 458 Speciale.

[M5Rick]

Have a 928 don't need a 911.

[RockCrusher]

Sold my last Porsche in early 2018, my 2002 Boxster. But Dec. of 2017 I sold my 2003 996 Turbo.

By May 2022 had my first BMW (230i). Since then I've owned a 2024 230ix, a 2023 M2 (which when I bought it I traded in the 230i) and now a 2024 M8. I traded in the M2 when I bought the M8.

My BMWs are wonderful cars. But so too were the Porsche cars.

Every once in a while I think about buying another Porsche. But the nearest dealer is a toss up between the one in Tulsa OK and Springfield MO. The Springfield dealer is an awkward drive of 120 miles (1h47m) from me. The Tulsa dealer is a few miles closer but about the same drive time. Both dealers are too far away/inconvenient.

(During the bulk of my Porsche ownership I had the benefit of a very good Porsche dealer located in the town where I lived just a mile or so distant from where I lived. So that spoiled me. Thankfully a very good BMW dealer is but 5 miles away from where I live.)

Also, my decision to not get another Porsche is the cost of the cars -- high by the standards of the days when I owned the Boxster/Turbo -- but today even more so.

While the Porsche cars were exceptional and I'm sure that hasn't changed unless they have gotten more exceptional I can't bring myself to spend the money.

[Pauly Wauly]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Have a 928 don't need a 911.

Do you have the 928 on the road, M5Rick?
I remember you were working on it last year, or a couple of years ago.

[XutvJet]

Originally Posted by x622

I hated my 992 Turbo S. It was very fast sure, but it was by far the most boring vehicle I've owned. It was so refined that you really only felt it unless you were doing 9-10/10ths in a corner. The modes didn't make it go from nice cruiser to serial killer.

I would skip a 992 TTS but I really enjoy driving 997.2 GT2/3RS's. They still feel like a lot of fun and have that telepathic ability where you feel where you are at and know precisely where the limit lies without it being a boring clinical experience.

I like porsches, and if they weren't priced so high I'd consider having a few but the problem as others have mentioned is that they've turned into speculator cars where people just buy them to show they drive a Porsche. If I buy a car I want to beat the piss out of it. I want to know how it likes to slide. I want to take it to the track and compare it to my track car.

This "problem" is easily solved by buying a basic spec naturally aspirated 997.2-991.2 911 manual, modding the suspension a bit, maybe some sport cat headers, and other stuff to make it your own and drive the hell out of it. The car isn't insanely fast, thus you can actually have a lot of fun on the streets with it. My 265hp 2011 Cayman Base 6MT is an absolutely joy to drive. It's way slower than my M2 DCT, but a far different driving experience and level of engagement. Plus, the car is EASY to work on and service myself, thus cost of ownership is not ridiculous. Sometimes sounding and feeling "fast" is plenty. I mean really, who are you racing against? What's the fun in having a car that is so damn fast and well sorted that it kills the driving experience? I don't get it.

[BlkGS]

Aren't 991.2s all turbo?

The 3.0t models make so much damn power with a tune and/or upgraded turbos...

[dgoldenz]

Originally Posted by BlkGS

Aren't 991.2s all turbo?

The 3.0t models make so much damn power with a tune and/or upgraded turbos...

and yet they aren't nearly as fun as the NA ones with way less power

[BlkGS]

Originally Posted by dgoldenz

and yet they aren't nearly as fun as the NA ones with way less power

I don't doubt that. Porsche has been evolving from a sports car company into a luxury car company that has an iconic sports car. People spending $150k plus for a regular 911 don't want a hard edged sports car, they want to feel like they "made it". It's the same thing with Corvettes. They've been moving away from sports car and into high powered GT cars to brag about at a car show since the mid 90s.

[dgoldenz]

Originally Posted by BlkGS

I don't doubt that. Porsche has been evolving from a sports car company into a luxury car company that has an iconic sports car. People spending $150k plus for a regular 911 don't want a hard edged sports car, they want to feel like they "made it". It's the same thing with Corvettes. They've been moving away from sports car and into high powered GT cars to brag about at a car show since the mid 90s.

Have to disagree, everyone still wants a GT3 which is why they're $30-50k over for a 3 year old used one with miles on it. They just increased the base price by $40k because they know people will pay it for that hard edged sports car.

They could easily put a NA engine in any of the base lineup but they don't because it forces people to go after a GT3 which keeps values up, and of course everyone wants something they can't get.

Prices have gone into the stratosphere though, with a loaded 911 T being upwards of $180k now when a few years ago a loaded 991.2 GTS was $160k and is now closer to $220k. You've got a whole lot of great options when you're getting into that kind of price range. Hopefully Porsche doesn't kill the golden goose by getting too greedy.

[JohnnyBeagle]

Had a 2006 C2S and a 2008 GT3. Driven plenty of 991s and 992s of various trims. They're fantastic vehicles. If I wasn't building a new house, I'd have one now.