[two_three_two]

Originally Posted by NotSoSure

I have my name down and deposit paid for a CS, but other than engine tune, boot lid and front lip, there doesn’t seem to be much to differentiate it from the standard M2.

Given the X Drive will likely get another power bump to 503 bhp, I’m finding it difficult to get excited about the CS.

The CS models are usually the pinnacle of the range, but this seems outdated and outgunned before its even launched.

Anyone else not really feeling it?

+1 as i actually drive my cars i would not want the CS at this point. barring some crazy development (manual in the CS? analog gauges? bespoke interior?) or unless you are picking it up to stash away for 20 years and resell, i'd be picking up my deposit and waiting for the x drive.

[aerobod]

Originally Posted by NotSoSure

I have my name down and deposit paid for a CS, but other than engine tune, boot lid and front lip, there doesn’t seem to be much to differentiate it from the standard M2.

Given the X Drive will likely get another power bump to 503 bhp, I’m finding it difficult to get excited about the CS.

The CS models are usually the pinnacle of the range, but this seems outdated and outgunned before its even launched.

Anyone else not really feeling it?

Going by driving the G80 M3C xDrive and M3CS in RWD mode on track on the same day, the M3CS is quite a bit better car from a suspension and overall tuning responsiveness perspective.

If it isn’t going to see track time, then neither the M2CS or M3CS is likely worth the extra cost from a driving perspective.

[NotSoSure]

Originally Posted by aerobod

If it isn’t going to see track time, then neither the M2CS or M3CS is likely worth the extra cost from a driving perspective.

Here in the UK, you'll struggle to push even the standard M2 to its limits on the road, and if I was spending circa £100k on a track day car, it wouldn’t be a CS (or likely a BMW).

I see from the X drive thread, it appears to be suggested later non-CS models will get 520-530 bhp, hence other than a boot spoiler I’m just not seeing the benefit of the CS?

I get your point about suspension tuning etc, but as you say, it seems pretty moot unless you're tracking the car.

[curtdragon]

I don't understand you guys. This isn't the first G8x CS so nothing should be a surprise for what you're getting.

It's going to have some cosmetics. Maybe some lightweight parts increased power, remapped suspension and differential and upgraded suspension. I think also slightly different seats or they're the same but has a CS logo. All it takes is looking at the M3/4 and see what the difference is.

The CS isn't the pinnacle, the CSL is and that's probably not happening on the G87.

You're debating whether it's worth it or what you're getting when it's not even a question or a mystery.

[NotSoSure]

If there is no CSL, then the CS should be the pinnacle of the G87 platform?

The G8X CS was a good 25 bhp up on the comp models; it was an attainable halo product in the way the CSL simply wasn’t. Whereas here it looks like it gets the same power as the x-drive models. If that’s correct, I don’t think your comparison works.

As I suggested, it looks like the CS is outgunned and outdated before it’s even launched.

We’re only a couple of years into the platform, and we’ve already had Pre LCI, LCI, CS, X Drive derivatives confirmed, with each looking to make the previous one marginally obsolete.

Agreed, BMW could pull it out of the bag when it’s announced in a few months’ time, but given how incremental they are playing it, potentially saving stuff for future models, I’m sceptical.

[curtdragon]

All my points are valid. This is the same thing as the M3/4. What are you still going on about it being obsolete when it's already been stated it will have a bunch of hardware not on the other trims.

You're hyper focus on the power doesn't make sense. Clearly it's not for you. Just wait for the xdrive and the bump in power.

Why do you keep dismissing all the other stuff on it besides the power?

Why even say you put your name down then start saying it's not worth it lol. I agree though, I don't think it's worth $35k more for what you get. I really don't see you getting this if you're complaining about what it offers.

Maybe you need to read this and see what the CS will probably have over the base.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...w-m4-cs-drive/

[NotSoSure]

I’m not hyper focussed on power, but it seems a strange decision for BMW to make. I’m not suggesting the CS won’t be great, but that it will be overshadowed by the X drive within days of it ending production.

The X drive doesn’t appeal at all, and I’ll still get the CS, but I expected something more akin to the M4 CS that was a little more special as compared to other models in the line-up.

That article you linked to concludes that the minor upgrades to suspension etc are so wafer thin so as not to be worth it. At least the M4 CS had additional power to justify the cost and badge, it looks like the G87 won’t.

[curtdragon]

Not focused on power then clearly states that the only upgrades are minor suspension and power lol.

A whole carbon kit: hood, trunk, lip, sideskirts, diffuser
Standard carbon seats
Front/rear anti roll bars
Suspension bushings
Probably upgraded wheels
Titanium exhaust
TCU/Diff/Suspension electronic tune
Engine brace
+50 hp

But again you're complaining it will be invalid because the xdrive that you said you don't want will have more or the same power 😆😆
Talk about crying over spilled milk before the cow is even born.

What's ironic as well is the xdrive is superior in every way except for the added weight. Better overall traction and if you want to do rwd stuff you put it in 2WD mode

[NotSoSure]

The article you linked to concluded the stuff you listed was so wafer thin that is wasn’t worth the premium!

All I’m saying is that it would be nice if the M2 CS had the same list of halo features as the M4 CS, this includes a power bump not available elsewhere in the model range.

[M2PDX]

Couple thoughts:

--An M3 CS just powered past a Porsche GT3 in one comparison.

--That car is far more than the sum of its parts. Same with the F87 CS. It was a special car.

--We all know that when BMW says "525" hp, the car will have 545-550 on the dyno.

--AWD will be amazing and perfect for some drivers. I've driven cars like the G8X. They are wicked fast. But the lighter rear wheel drive BMWs have a nimble feeling like few other cars, and that's what I'm looking for. Hoping that as #2 in my dealer's waiting list I actually get one.

[aerobod]

Originally Posted by M2PDX

Couple thoughts:

--An M3 CS just powered past a Porsche GT3 in one comparison.

--That car is far more than the sum of its parts. Same with the F87 CS. It was a special car.

--We all know that when BMW says "525" hp, the car will have 545-550 on the dyno.

--AWD will be amazing and perfect for some drivers. I've driven cars like the G8X. They are wicked fast. But the lighter rear wheel drive BMWs have a nimble feeling like few other cars, and that's what I'm looking for. Hoping that as #2 in my dealer's waiting list I actually get one.

Yes, my impression from driving the M3CS and M3C xDrive is that the M3CS is the better drivers’ car, the M3C xDrive is the better car for driving to the shops and traffic light drags. The M3CS is typically several seconds a lap faster on a dry track.

[curtdragon]

Originally Posted by NotSoSure

The article you linked to concluded the stuff you listed was so wafer thin that is wasn’t worth the premium!

All I’m saying is that it would be nice if the M2 CS had the same list of halo features as the M4 CS, this includes a power bump not available elsewhere in the model range.

OK you win. The article says exactly what it has. It just says that those things aren't worth the premium in their opinion.
Again you keep focusing on power lol. Then say you're not then proceed to complain about the power.
It has a ton of stuff that isn't on the base including power and it will be the top when it's out. Who tf cares if it will have more later? It's like people with a 2023 crying because they added more power to the 2025. They've been doing this forever.
You sound like the guy who would complain the guy sitting next to you has five shrimp and you have four. But you also have a whole steak vs none lol

They say you can't fix certain things...
I concede no need to respond 😆

[NotSoSure]

Originally Posted by curtdragon

OK you win. The article says exactly what it has. It just says that those things aren't worth the premium in their opinion.
Again you keep focusing on power lol. Then say you're not then proceed to complain about the power.
It has a ton of stuff that isn't on the base including power and it will be the top when it's out. Who tf cares if it will have more later? It's like people with a 2023 crying because they added more power to the 2025. They've been doing this forever.
You sound like the guy who would complain the guy sitting next to you has five shrimp and you have four. But you also have a whole steak vs none lol

They say you can't fix certain things...
I concede no need to respond 😆

Doubtful. I don’t like shrimp.

[hb]

Originally Posted by NotSoSure

I have my name down and deposit paid for a CS, but other than engine tune, boot lid and front lip, there doesn’t seem to be much to differentiate it from the standard M2.

Given the X Drive will likely get another power bump to 503 bhp, I’m finding it difficult to get excited about the CS.

The CS models are usually the pinnacle of the range, but this seems outdated and outgunned before its even launched.

Anyone else not really feeling it?

We won't see M2 xDrives in customer hands until very late 2026 - early 2027. It's also RWD vs xDrive, in the end, different driving behaviors in a car of that size

[hb]

Originally Posted by NotSoSure

I’m not hyper focussed on power, but it seems a strange decision for BMW to make. I’m not suggesting the CS won’t be great, but that it will be overshadowed by the X drive within days of it ending production.

The X drive doesn’t appeal at all, and I’ll still get the CS, but I expected something more akin to the M4 CS that was a little more special as compared to other models in the line-up.

That article you linked to concludes that the minor upgrades to suspension etc are so wafer thin so as not to be worth it. At least the M4 CS had additional power to justify the cost and badge, it looks like the G87 won’t.

I doubt it they had any sources. They pretty much used what the insider here said and what I posted nearly a year ago. Will give more details on the M2 CS soon, real info.

[Colinv6]

Originally Posted by hb

I doubt it they had any sources. They pretty much used what the insider here said and what I posted nearly a year ago. Will give more details on the M2 CS soon, real info.

Can’t wait for more info! This is the one car I’m betting on to tempt me out of my beloved 20’ M4 comp…

[as7920]

Originally Posted by Colinv6

Can’t wait for more info! This is the one car I’m betting on to tempt me out of my beloved 20’ M4 comp…

xDrive and I'm sold.

RWD G87 M2 CS and I'm only 50/50 with the AWD M2 LCI.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by IndyMike

Looks really nice with the gold rims. Someone needs to update the Velvet blue render with these rims now. Should pop really well in tandem.

I think this combo will be the signature build for the CS, much like Misano blue with gold wheels was for the F87 CS.

At least that is what my build would be (if it came with a manual ).

Looks like the guys over at BMWBLOG read your post.

BMWBLOG: New BMW M2 CS Rendered With Gold Bronze Wheels

[Mflies23]

Originally Posted by M2PDX

Couple thoughts:

--An M3 CS just powered past a Porsche GT3 in one comparison.

--That car is far more than the sum of its parts. Same with the F87 CS. It was a special car.

--We all know that when BMW says "525" hp, the car will have 545-550 on the dyno.

--AWD will be amazing and perfect for some drivers. I've driven cars like the G8X. They are wicked fast. But the lighter rear wheel drive BMWs have a nimble feeling like few other cars, and that's what I'm looking for. Hoping that as #2 in my dealer's waiting list I actually get one.

What dealer in PDX? I was contemplating throwing a deposit in at BMW Portland

[IanH]

Yellow DRL plus red grille border plus orange reflectors is heinous looking lol

Obviously fixable but a lot will be "purists" about it if that ends up being the design.

[M2PDX]

Originally Posted by Mflies23

What dealer in PDX? I was contemplating throwing a deposit in at BMW Portland

. I think both have several on the list.

[Basketcase]

awaiting for HB to update this thread with the new info