[Nordkeyz73]

Hey guys. So I'm 1st in line for the upcoming CS at my local dealership. I've been having second thoughts since placing my deposit ($1k) on the M2 CS though - given that the M2 xDrive has actually been confirmed by ynguldyn (shoutout to ynguldyn).

Before I bought my Macan Turbo, I seriously considered an M240i xDrive, but ultimately loved the utility, ground clearance, and quality of what P-Cars offer. My Macan is a forever car for me, just like my 328i

I'd like forum opinion on the pros and cons for paying a premium for a CS, vs. saving some money and grabbing an xDrive M2 ~2027. I'm versed in tuning and modifications, so my thought was that for me, the xDrive platform might not just be more of a DD, but faster in real world applications. Open to all opinions from any forum member, from any vehicle!

P.S. It's great to be back on this forum. Even after driving P-Cars for a bit, and test-driving other offerings... M Cars are still very special machines, even with current controversy on styling and transmission options.

[ScottyRyan2019]

I think the CS will be a pretty special car, just not sure price wise how special, lol, whereas the xDrive will be quite common as compared to a RWD model. With that said I'll take an xDrive as the AWD is important to me.

[eleven11]

I'm in the same position, having a CS allocation for ~18 months. I'd love for the CS to offer M xDrive. I have this delusion that ynguldyn's July 2024 update, "G87 M2 CS, despite some hopes (fears?) is going to be RWD" means that RWD is going to be available (and not AWD only ). I think it will be an amazing car, but hope the traction off the line is accessible. I'll never forget the artform that was launching my F10 M5. The M2 xDrive is too far away for me to give any attention. If I'm interested at that time, I'll just order one or pick one up that's well spec'd - there shouldn't be a long wait time. If I decide to not take the CS, I'm going 992.

[JABCAT]

Personally, I don't think the likely large price hike for the CS will be worth what you get with it. I also don't think the M2 x-drive will be common at all. We're into the 3rd model year of the G87 & I've seen 4 in the wild other than mine between time in Dallas & Austin, TX (2 very large, affluent car cities). There was finally 1 other G87 than mine at a fairly large cars & coffee last week that I attend monthly. And towards the end a '25 drove into the window tint place that was in the same complex. The owner came over and talked to me, he had just purchased it. I've seen one other G87 in Dallas & 1 in Austin.

[ourlee]

I can’t afford the CS but if it’s me, the CS will be worth its weight in gold if reviewers tell us the steering feel is Porsche like.

[kyrix1st]

Originally Posted by ourlee

I can’t afford the CS but if it’s me, the CS will be worth its weight in gold if reviewers tell us the steering feel is Porsche like.

Distinction in the feel department will never be reconciled as long as BMW continues to use ZF8 instead of DCTs. If they release a manual version of CS that's a different ball game.

[ourlee]

I’m more interested in feeling more front tires in the steering wheel.

[two_three_two]

feel that this might be a popular topic here soon. my initial feeling is that this CS will mirror other recent CS launches, with many sitting around at dealers or moving at a discount new, and then examples faring much better on the secondary market in a few years. still probably the x drive for my money, but we need to see details on each to make a full judgement. the CS isnt without merit IMHO but def now a hard sell with the x drive around the corner

[Bumpinjeep]

Originally Posted by Nordkeyz73

I'd like forum opinion on the pros and cons for paying a premium for a CS, vs. saving some money and grabbing an xDrive M2 ~2027. I'm versed in tuning and modifications, so my thought was that for me, the xDrive platform might not just be more of a DD, but faster in real world applications. Open to all opinions from any forum member, from any vehicle!

If you absolutely must have an auto transmission, then the CS would be the one i would choose.
It will be lighter, more unique and special from the factory (with bespoke parts not found on any G87), and a better driving experience on the street and especially track (if that's your fancy).
I personally wouldn't waste my time on a AWD automatic sports car because frankly, that simply bores me, just get an EV and have the same experience but faster in a straight line.

I can't say if the CS will hold it's value, with what's been happening in the automotive world over the last few years, nothing is a guarantee any more.

Get yourself the car that you're going to enjoy every time you get behind the wheel, between those two, I know what I'm picking.

[Nordkeyz73]

I very much appreciate everyone's input!

To me, if the CS had the addition of a manual it would be a no-brainer. What's making this difficult is the markup over a regular M2 and the future xDrive M2. If there is a remarkable "X-Factor (pun intended)" about this model I would be inclined to stay the course - but still, xDrive would be great for New England snowy days.

I guess for now I'm relying on the improvement of last gen's M2 from Comp to CS to justify me plunking down a deposit. I will say though, RWD makes a car special handling wise in the predictability department so I'm really starting to think that might be a plus instead of a negative

[LateBrake8]

I thought about holding out for the CS or an xDrive but neither makes sense for me personally. The CS will be special and have the benefit of retaining value (and possibly appreciating) down the line, but I tend to put a lot of miles on my cars and the thought of mileage concerns could ruin the ownership experience for me. I don't know what they're going to sell for and whether they'd be sticking you with a markup, but the higher cost of entry also comes into play. If it's north of $100-120k, you're getting pretty close to pre-owned V10 R8 and GT3 territory.

As far as the xDrive goes, yeah its cool to have that traction off the line but (1) I don't plan on doing any drag/street light racing, (2) I prefer the driving experience and general hooligan nature of RWDs, and (3) I keep my cars a long time and DIY everything; having the extra differential up front and also a transfer case sounds like more stuff that can break and get in the way of wrenching. If you live in a high-rain/snow environment, I can see the benefit.

[Mr. Hankey]

Originally Posted by Nordkeyz73

Hey guys. So I'm 1st in line for the upcoming CS at my local dealership. I've been having second thoughts since placing my deposit ($1k) on the M2 CS though - given that the M2 xDrive has actually been confirmed by ynguldyn (shoutout to ynguldyn).

Before I bought my Macan Turbo, I seriously considered an M240i xDrive, but ultimately loved the utility, ground clearance, and quality of what P-Cars offer. My Macan is a forever car for me, just like my 328i

I'd like forum opinion on the pros and cons for paying a premium for a CS, vs. saving some money and grabbing an xDrive M2 ~2027. I'm versed in tuning and modifications, so my thought was that for me, the xDrive platform might not just be more of a DD, but faster in real world applications. Open to all opinions from any forum member, from any vehicle!

P.S. It's great to be back on this forum. Even after driving P-Cars for a bit, and test-driving other offerings... M Cars are still very special machines, even with current controversy on styling and transmission options.

CS would have to be very special for me to want that over the xDrive. ie DCT, roll cage, big HP bump and REAL changes to the suspension other than spring rates to make up for the HP increase....which we all know won't happen...it will be programming changes to the diff, steering, suspension, and traction control with a slight bump in HP with a front lip, some alcantra covered surfaces vs leather, and front/rear spoilers tacked on for a 20K price increase...I can convert my base M2 into that for pretty cheap...

The xDrive will be a bit slower overall due to slightly less HP than the CS, heavier, but faster off the line. Question is what will the price delta be for xDrive vs RWD car? 10K maybe? Certainly will end up cheaper than the CS.

Keep your first in line deposit though! By the time you can order I suspect there will be more details on the xDrive (although it will be the same delta likely as the G8X and G8X xDrives had in terms of weight, power delta, and price delta)....

[JABCAT]

On the standard models x-drive adds $2k to the price. Looking at the M3/4 x-drive is $5k on the comp models. Without a comp, I'd imagine x-drive on the M2 to be the same $5k bump. I see no reason or justification for it to cost more than that.

[luckylingy]

Originally Posted by JABCAT

On the standard models x-drive adds $2k to the price. Looking at the M3/4 x-drive is $5k on the comp models. Without a comp, I'd imagine x-drive on the M2 to be the same $5k bump. I see no reason or justification for it to cost more than that.

Comparisons to M3/M4 pricing is a bit misleading, as there's a ~$4,000 upcharge from from the base (6-speed manual) version to the RWD Competition model, whereas the M2 is priced the same for manual and automatic transmissions. So the delta from base to xDrive is $9,300 on the M3 and $9,200 on the M4. That's a big bump for those of us weighing a 6-speed G87 to an xDrive G87.

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by luckylingy

Comparisons to M3/M4 pricing is a bit misleading, as there's a ~$4,000 upcharge from from the base (6-speed manual) version to the RWD Competition model, whereas the M2 is priced the same for manual and automatic transmissions. So the delta from base to xDrive is $9,300 on the M3 and $9,200 on the M4. That's a big bump for those of us weighing a 6-speed G87 to an xDrive G87.

The upcharge is for the Competition upgrades. The Comp pkg on the X3 is $7k, for example. As there is no competition variant for the M2, it makes more sense the x-drive would be ~$5k over the base.

[luckylingy]

True, though the Competition Package on the X3M/X4M includes upgraded wheels and seats which as standalone options account for ~$3,000 of that package. (The remaining ~$4,000 is 30 extra hp, exhaust, seat belts and Shadowline trim.) Assuming the xDrive G87 is powertrain upgrade only (driven wheels and modest hp bump), ~$5,000 sounds about right.

[Kid Eh]

I’m debating exactly this too with the addition of currently owning a 2018 M3CS. Both those M2’s intrigue me. Is this G87 CS even a sure thing? I’ve contacted many dealers in my area and nobody has a waiting list going or knows anything about it. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[Crazyotter]

I don’t fit in CS seats so it’s a nonstarter

[Kevin_The_Clean1]

I would simply grab a G87 M2 X-drive & fully enjoy it on the street as much as possible. You can always grab a few CS bist later & bolt them on, like the front hubs if you want.

[Nordkeyz73]

Originally Posted by Kid Eh

I’m debating exactly this too with the addition of currently owning a 2018 M3CS. Both those M2’s intrigue me. Is this G87 CS even a sure thing? I’ve contacted many dealers in my area and nobody has a waiting list going or knows anything about it. 🤷🏻‍♂️

My dealer was aware of it, although the dealership I contacted is not the most local to me: and many are clueless regarding future models. I’d say your M3CS is kinda already special, but I understand that the you also might be weighing current M3 CS models with AWD. I’m now leaning more toward M2 xDrive or next gen M3 Comp.

[AliM2BR]

At least on M3s and M4s i think the CS version are not worth it and very overpriced. It's 911 money, even 911 Carrera S money. So in another perspective, the CS versions make the Competition versions a good deal. More or less what happens with the M2, which is cheaper than a M3/M4 and it's the same car.

[Kid Eh]

Originally Posted by Nordkeyz73

My dealer was aware of it, although the dealership I contacted is not the most local to me: and many are clueless regarding future models. I’d say your M3CS is kinda already special, but I understand that the you also might be weighing current M3 CS models with AWD. I’m now leaning more toward M2 xDrive or next gen M3 Comp.

No I can’t come around to the G80 front ends. It’s just atrocious to me. That’s why I’m looking at M2’s.