[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by TR23-87

Again, I am going back to BMW never said launch and vehicle availability was April 2023 for the U.S. if the first vehicles are delivered in April, anywhere in the world they have made their commitment.

We have assumed that we arr April launch and we are wrong. So are any dealers stating such - they don’t know any more than anyone else.

We can wait or buy something else. So long as my urgency doesn’t change I’ll wait.

You are right, BMW AG has never said anything to anyone here (surprising?). Since BMW AG controls the show, trying to pry answers to unknowns from sources that have no info is a waste of time (of course, some will give BS responses to make their customers feel good or to avoid a potential feeling of disconnect).

There have been many articles, from BMW dealers in the US and "reputable sources" (ie Car and Driver) who said delivery to US would begin in April 2023. Now these "stories"/articles are from October 2022 or so, and things can change beyond everyone's control, however it would be truly nice for some transparency since they had orders go live in November.

[Rx-7ames]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

There have been many articles, from BMW dealers in the US and "reputable sources" (ie Car and Driver) who said delivery to US would begin in April 2023. Now these "stories"/articles are from October 2022 or so, and things can change beyond everyone's control, however it would be truly nice for some transparency since they had orders go live in November.

There is no doubt that the info put out by BMW in October was in the very least misleading, and all the sources interpreted it as April delivery, and BMW was fine with everyone assuming this. It's a little frustrating, but I'm going to take advantage of the time line and save more money for a down payment. This car costs more than I should be budgeting for, but man do I really want it.

[zero21]

Originally Posted by Rx-7ames

There is no doubt that the info put out by BMW in October was in the very least misleading, and all the sources interpreted it as April delivery, and BMW was fine with everyone assuming this. It's a little frustrating, but I'm going to take advantage of the time line and save more money for a down payment. This car costs more than I should be budgeting for, but man do I really want it.

Awesome. I'm glad you're willing, and able to swing it.

[Albator_IIII]

Originally Posted by Rx-7ames

There is no doubt that the info put out by BMW in October was in the very least misleading, and all the sources interpreted it as April delivery, and BMW was fine with everyone assuming this. It's a little frustrating, but I'm going to take advantage of the time line and save more money for a down payment. This car costs more than I should be budgeting for, but man do I really want it.

You and me buddy.

[jordan24c]

Originally Posted by Albator_IIII

You and me buddy.

Ape together strong.

[fanofbmwe46]

I decided I had had enough waiting today and went to pull the rip cord.. and buy a M3/M4 instead. I called every dealer in the US with one for sale with an MSRP under $80K. Every single one is either pre sold or they won’t sell it to me because I’m not a local customer. Wow. I felt deflated by the time I called the last dealer and they said they flat out wouldn’t sell me their M car. I’m a cash buyer and will pay for shipping.. not good enough. The shortage is real.

[zero21]

Originally Posted by fanofbmwe46

I decided I had had enough waiting today and went to pull the rip cord.. and buy a M3/M4 instead. I called every dealer in the US with one for sale with an MSRP under $80K. Every single one is either pre sold or they won’t sell it to me because I’m not a local customer. Wow. I felt deflated by the time I called the last dealer and they said they flat out wouldn’t sell me their M car. I’m a cash buyer and will pay for shipping.. not good enough. The shortage is real.

That's ridiculous. If you spec one you'll get delivery in August or Oct at least according to my dealer.

There are several for sale with prices posted on all the websites. I found two right around 80.

Edit: Scratch that, they've been sold.

[deneed4spd]

Originally Posted by Allenssmart

Agreed this is ridiculous. My local dealer has an allocation for a ct4v bw 6mt and every week I'm getting closer to putting a deposit down on it

Do it! Overall better car in all facets. Only thing is not having a s58. But u can only tune so much with that limited manual.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by deneed4spd

Do it! Overall better car in all facets. Only thing is not having a s58. But u can only tune so much with that limited manual.

Only tune so much with that limited manual? What are you referring to?

Cadillac is the better car? Meh, its still a GM. Sorry, will take the M2 and the waiting...

[fanofbmwe46]

Caddy looks like my grandpas old sedan. God awful.

[StickyPickle]

Originally Posted by JustinHEMI

Couple that with my SA used the word "delayed" in his correspondence to me regarding an internal memo. I don't know if that's his word, or if it's from the memo, but in his mind it's a delay. I may try asking him for the memo, but I also don't want to cross professional boundaries by asking him for something that he probably isn't allowed to provide.

Since there are customers in other countries getting allocations, I’m not buying the delay story. Wouldn’t make any sense, it has been mentioned someone living in Germany has an allocation for a U.S. spec’d vehicle.

So then my question is BMW purposely releasing allocations to certain countries based on a shipping timeline? I’d imagine Central, South and North America would be the quickest to ship. Maybe they know it will take much longer to ship to certain parts around the world so they’re giving them a head start before fulfilling orders that require less shipping time?

I don’t know, I’m just throwing shit against the wall cuz I want my M2 dammit!

[KC87ZB]

Originally Posted by StickyPickle

So then my question is BMW purposely releasing allocations to certain countries based on a shipping timeline? I’d imagine Central, South and North America would be the quickest to ship.

I think if you look at the sequence in which order books were opened you may find some rationale for the answer. Germany was opened first - they will get the first cars in April and then so on.

Completely my opinion but the Germans are typically pretty logical in their approach.

[zero21]

1/23/23 came and went - we can all move on!

[moodyhank82]

Originally Posted by zero21

1/23/23 came and went - we can all move on!

I have heard the week of the 23rd date from my SA as well. It was only the first day of the week yesterday, I am still hoping for allocations to drop by Friday. Checking quickly the G80 forum, M3/4 allocations haven't dropped yet either...

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by moodyhank82

I have heard the week of the 23rd date from my SA as well. It was only the first day of the week yesterday, I am still hoping for allocations to drop by Friday. Checking quickly the G80 forum, M3/4 allocations haven't dropped yet either...

I have a bridge to sell you, too. It provides sweet access to some of the best swampland...

[Vaticous]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

I have a bridge to sell you, too. It provides sweet access to some of the best swampland...

Yea…can we let this go…US allocations will be official on the day the first US customer gets an allocation. There, now you all can sleep better at night

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Vaticous

Yea…can we let this go…US allocations will be official on the day the first US customer gets an allocation. There, now you all can sleep better at night

Just curious, which dealer do you have your order with?

[Vaticous]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

Just curious, which dealer do you have your order with?

BMW of South Atlanta. Was forced to buy out of South Florida, or Florida in general really. I was “late” to the party, and by late I mean on time

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by Vaticous

Yea…can we let this go…US allocations will be official on the day the first US customer gets an allocation. There, now you all can sleep better at night

This, because hoping/wishing for them to drop each and everyday is getting tiresome. It seems to make the wait worse.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

This, because hoping/wishing for them to drop each and everyday is getting tiresome. It seems to make the wait worse.

I agree 100% (and BS rumors add to the pain)...would rather watch paint dry or water boil.

[techniggo]

My dealer told me he´s not sure allocations will drop before EOP of the M2. Its like Apple´s Airpower

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by techniggo

My dealer told me he´s not sure allocations will drop before EOP of the M2. Its like Apple´s Airpower

Well that would make no sense. How would they provide the xustom builds if they didnt have production numbers/VINs for each and everyone's order (which allocations would need to go out so they could be assign to each order)???

I think we are now getting silly, or dealers are tired of being asked and they are just saying anything to get people to leave them alone.