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      06-20-2020, 05:29 PM   #4137
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Yeah I have a pre b cz75 but wont work for me for carry because cant work thr safety properly with my grip, need monkey thumbs I guess.
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Gentleman, I greatly appreciate all of the CCW recommendations. A lot of valuable information has been posted and has helped me narrow it down to (2) contenders for my first CC weapon. In addition to your recommendations, I reached out to my uncle who is a retired LEO, ex military, and owns several hundred firearms. He has recommended a Glock 43 or S&W M&P Shield for my first weapon. I am leaning towards the S&W for a few technical reasons, however, I think its important to hold and fire a weapon extensively before making a decision. So for that reason, I am going to do some pretty extensive range shooting via rentals before making up my mind.

I have shot my friends Glock 43 a few times and loved it. The size, the weight, how it felt in my hand etc, felt very natural to me. Whereas a few other hand guns we shot that day felt clunky and cumbersome. I'm sure as I gain experience shooting and my confidence level increases, my perspective will change on subcompacts, but for now, I don't think I can go wrong with either one of these.

Also, I have done a bunch of skeet shooting, some random range shooting, and went on a few hunting trips back in high school, so I do have 'some' experience shooting. However, I am of the mindset that mastery is key, so will be taking whichever weapon I decide on to the range several times before actually carrying.

I just enrolled in an online CCW course here in FL and will be submitting my application later this week. I was going to take the in person course, but with COVID and the sounds of the course from my uncle, I think online will suffice.

Looking forward to sharing my purchase decision later next month.

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I just watched a G43x review by Colion Noir, he was luke warm on it because of the 10 round magazines but loved it with the 15 round Shield Arms magazine. I am leaning toward Shield Arms modified G43x for my next purchase.
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No issues so far with my Shield Arms magazine in my 43X. They just released a nickel version of it. My six original versions are running fine.
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Gentleman, I greatly appreciate all of the CCW recommendations. A lot of valuable information has been posted and has helped me narrow it down to (2) contenders for my first CC weapon. In addition to your recommendations, I reached out to my uncle who is a retired LEO, ex military, and owns several hundred firearms. He has recommended a Glock 43 or S&W M&P Shield for my first weapon. I am leaning towards the S&W for a few technical reasons, however, I think its important to hold and fire a weapon extensively before making a decision. So for that reason, I am going to do some pretty extensive range shooting via rentals before making up my mind.

I have shot my friends Glock 43 a few times and loved it. The size, the weight, how it felt in my hand etc, felt very natural to me. Whereas a few other hand guns we shot that day felt clunky and cumbersome. I'm sure as I gain experience shooting and my confidence level increases, my perspective will change on subcompacts, but for now, I don't think I can go wrong with either one of these.

Also, I have done a bunch of skeet shooting, some random range shooting, and went on a few hunting trips back in high school, so I do have 'some' experience shooting. However, I am of the mindset that mastery is key, so will be taking whichever weapon I decide on to the range several times before actually carrying.

I just enrolled in an online CCW course here in FL and will be submitting my application later this week. I was going to take the in person course, but with COVID and the sounds of the course from my uncle, I think online will suffice.

Looking forward to sharing my purchase decision later next month.

Thanks again,
Jordan
I own 2 shields and they are great with a great price point. Down the road add night sites and then purchase an aftermarket apex trigger system. Smooth as butter.
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Gentleman, I greatly appreciate all of the CCW recommendations. A lot of valuable information has been posted and has helped me narrow it down to (2) contenders for my first CC weapon. In addition to your recommendations, I reached out to my uncle who is a retired LEO, ex military, and owns several hundred firearms. He has recommended a Glock 43 or S&W M&P Shield for my first weapon. I am leaning towards the S&W for a few technical reasons, however, I think its important to hold and fire a weapon extensively before making a decision. So for that reason, I am going to do some pretty extensive range shooting via rentals before making up my mind.

I have shot my friends Glock 43 a few times and loved it. The size, the weight, how it felt in my hand etc, felt very natural to me. Whereas a few other hand guns we shot that day felt clunky and cumbersome. I'm sure as I gain experience shooting and my confidence level increases, my perspective will change on subcompacts, but for now, I don't think I can go wrong with either one of these.

Also, I have done a bunch of skeet shooting, some random range shooting, and went on a few hunting trips back in high school, so I do have 'some' experience shooting. However, I am of the mindset that mastery is key, so will be taking whichever weapon I decide on to the range several times before actually carrying.

I just enrolled in an online CCW course here in FL and will be submitting my application later this week. I was going to take the in person course, but with COVID and the sounds of the course from my uncle, I think online will suffice.

Looking forward to sharing my purchase decision later next month.

Thanks again,
Jordan
Good choices. I still recommend looking at the Taurus G2C and get past the brand. If you look it up youll find nothing but positive reviews on the particular gun. Main reason i suggest looking into this is it is nearly the exact same size as the shield and very similar ergonomics. However instead of 7/8+1 rds it holds 12+1 rds and ive shot both. The G2C is imo the better shooter.
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Gentleman, I greatly appreciate all of the CCW recommendations. A lot of valuable information has been posted and has helped me narrow it down to (2) contenders for my first CC weapon. In addition to your recommendations, I reached out to my uncle who is a retired LEO, ex military, and owns several hundred firearms. He has recommended a Glock 43 or S&W M&P Shield for my first weapon. I am leaning towards the S&W for a few technical reasons, however, I think its important to hold and fire a weapon extensively before making a decision. So for that reason, I am going to do some pretty extensive range shooting via rentals before making up my mind.

I have shot my friends Glock 43 a few times and loved it. The size, the weight, how it felt in my hand etc, felt very natural to me. Whereas a few other hand guns we shot that day felt clunky and cumbersome. I'm sure as I gain experience shooting and my confidence level increases, my perspective will change on subcompacts, but for now, I don't think I can go wrong with either one of these.

Also, I have done a bunch of skeet shooting, some random range shooting, and went on a few hunting trips back in high school, so I do have 'some' experience shooting. However, I am of the mindset that mastery is key, so will be taking whichever weapon I decide on to the range several times before actually carrying.

I just enrolled in an online CCW course here in FL and will be submitting my application later this week. I was going to take the in person course, but with COVID and the sounds of the course from my uncle, I think online will suffice.

Looking forward to sharing my purchase decision later next month.

Thanks again,
Jordan
I own 2 shields and they are great with a great price point. Down the road add night sites and then purchase an aftermarket apex trigger system. Smooth as butter.
That's pretty darn cool! Up until now, I didn't even realize you can install an aftermarket sight on a pistol. I have a feeling the customization market is endless for this kind of stuff. This is actually starting to get kind of fun.

Explains the obsession with accessories my uncle seems to have for his collection, lol.

Watching this guy right now:

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Gentleman, I greatly appreciate all of the CCW recommendations. A lot of valuable information has been posted and has helped me narrow it down to (2) contenders for my first CC weapon. In addition to your recommendations, I reached out to my uncle who is a retired LEO, ex military, and owns several hundred firearms. He has recommended a Glock 43 or S&W M&P Shield for my first weapon. I am leaning towards the S&W for a few technical reasons, however, I think its important to hold and fire a weapon extensively before making a decision. So for that reason, I am going to do some pretty extensive range shooting via rentals before making up my mind.

I have shot my friends Glock 43 a few times and loved it. The size, the weight, how it felt in my hand etc, felt very natural to me. Whereas a few other hand guns we shot that day felt clunky and cumbersome. I'm sure as I gain experience shooting and my confidence level increases, my perspective will change on subcompacts, but for now, I don't think I can go wrong with either one of these.

Also, I have done a bunch of skeet shooting, some random range shooting, and went on a few hunting trips back in high school, so I do have 'some' experience shooting. However, I am of the mindset that mastery is key, so will be taking whichever weapon I decide on to the range several times before actually carrying.

I just enrolled in an online CCW course here in FL and will be submitting my application later this week. I was going to take the in person course, but with COVID and the sounds of the course from my uncle, I think online will suffice.

Looking forward to sharing my purchase decision later next month.

Thanks again,
Jordan
Good choices. I still recommend looking at the Taurus G2C and get past the brand. If you look it up youll find nothing but positive reviews on the particular gun. Main reason i suggest looking into this is it is nearly the exact same size as the shield and very similar ergonomics. However instead of 7/8+1 rds it holds 12+1 rds and ive shot both. The G2C is imo the better shooter.
Checking it out now.

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Gentleman, I greatly appreciate all of the CCW recommendations. A lot of valuable information has been posted and has helped me narrow it down to (2) contenders for my first CC weapon. In addition to your recommendations, I reached out to my uncle who is a retired LEO, ex military, and owns several hundred firearms. He has recommended a Glock 43 or S&W M&P Shield for my first weapon. I am leaning towards the S&W for a few technical reasons, however, I think its important to hold and fire a weapon extensively before making a decision. So for that reason, I am going to do some pretty extensive range shooting via rentals before making up my mind.

I have shot my friends Glock 43 a few times and loved it. The size, the weight, how it felt in my hand etc, felt very natural to me. Whereas a few other hand guns we shot that day felt clunky and cumbersome. I'm sure as I gain experience shooting and my confidence level increases, my perspective will change on subcompacts, but for now, I don't think I can go wrong with either one of these.

Also, I have done a bunch of skeet shooting, some random range shooting, and went on a few hunting trips back in high school, so I do have 'some' experience shooting. However, I am of the mindset that mastery is key, so will be taking whichever weapon I decide on to the range several times before actually carrying.

I just enrolled in an online CCW course here in FL and will be submitting my application later this week. I was going to take the in person course, but with COVID and the sounds of the course from my uncle, I think online will suffice.

Looking forward to sharing my purchase decision later next month.

Thanks again,
Jordan
Good choices. I still recommend looking at the Taurus G2C and get past the brand. If you look it up youll find nothing but positive reviews on the particular gun. Main reason i suggest looking into this is it is nearly the exact same size as the shield and very similar ergonomics. However instead of 7/8+1 rds it holds 12+1 rds and ive shot both. The G2C is imo the better shooter.
Checking it out now.

Thanks,
Make sure you check out all of these suggestions in person. Making sure a pistol fits your hand is really important.
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Gentleman, I greatly appreciate all of the CCW recommendations. A lot of valuable information has been posted and has helped me narrow it down to (2) contenders for my first CC weapon. In addition to your recommendations, I reached out to my uncle who is a retired LEO, ex military, and owns several hundred firearms. He has recommended a Glock 43 or S&W M&P Shield for my first weapon. I am leaning towards the S&W for a few technical reasons, however, I think its important to hold and fire a weapon extensively before making a decision. So for that reason, I am going to do some pretty extensive range shooting via rentals before making up my mind.

I have shot my friends Glock 43 a few times and loved it. The size, the weight, how it felt in my hand etc, felt very natural to me. Whereas a few other hand guns we shot that day felt clunky and cumbersome. I'm sure as I gain experience shooting and my confidence level increases, my perspective will change on subcompacts, but for now, I don't think I can go wrong with either one of these.

Also, I have done a bunch of skeet shooting, some random range shooting, and went on a few hunting trips back in high school, so I do have 'some' experience shooting. However, I am of the mindset that mastery is key, so will be taking whichever weapon I decide on to the range several times before actually carrying.

I just enrolled in an online CCW course here in FL and will be submitting my application later this week. I was going to take the in person course, but with COVID and the sounds of the course from my uncle, I think online will suffice.

Looking forward to sharing my purchase decision later next month.

Thanks again,
Jordan
Good choices. I still recommend looking at the Taurus G2C and get past the brand. If you look it up youll find nothing but positive reviews on the particular gun. Main reason i suggest looking into this is it is nearly the exact same size as the shield and very similar ergonomics. However instead of 7/8+1 rds it holds 12+1 rds and ive shot both. The G2C is imo the better shooter.
Checking it out now.

Thanks,
Make sure you check out all of these suggestions in person. Making sure a pistol fits your hand is really important.
Yup! As soon as cases subside, we're going to a local range that has a rental program.

As of now my list of rentals that I'm going to shoot are (my buddy has the 43 already):


Glock 43
S&W Shield
Springfield XD
Taurus G2C

Hopefully they have all of these available. Should probably call and check before going. My buddy said you don't necessarily have to fire them to find the right gun, but rather just see how they feel in the hand.

Can't wait! Have been stuck in the YouTube firearm rabbit hole all weekend. My algorithm and advertising has completely changed, lol.
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So pre-COVID, I would hit up my local range and just borrow some ear-pro and eye-pro, but post-COVID I thought it would be best to get my own stuff.

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If you dont mind spending a bit, I'd recommend Peltors (we use them on deployments), or walkers. If you ever plan on shooting rifles, definitely get a low-profile version.

I'd also recommend getting one with sound Amplification. For eye pro, make sure they're ANSI rated. We usually use Oakleys if were being fancy, or Wiley X if were being cheap.

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I don't know about jumping into CCW without previous firearm experience.
Gotta start somewhere. In my ccw class even though i had plenty of firearm experience they taught most of the basics and offered more help to those who are unfamiliar with firearms. Then spent a couple hours at the range. Took about 4-5weeks for my card to come in the mail which would allow time to practice at the range some more and get familiar with the basics of a gun before carrying. I think a ccw class is a good place to start if you dont know anyone who is knowledgeable about firearms and its usually taught by LEO
this is definitely YMMV. In Texas, they explicitly state NOT to show up if you do NOT have prior firearms experience with shooting and manipulation. They do NOT teach you how to shoot before testing.

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Gentleman, I greatly appreciate all of the CCW recommendations. A lot of valuable information has been posted and has helped me narrow it down to (2) contenders for my first CC weapon. In addition to your recommendations, I reached out to my uncle who is a retired LEO, ex military, and owns several hundred firearms. He has recommended a Glock 43 or S&W M&P Shield for my first weapon. I am leaning towards the S&W for a few technical reasons, however, I think its important to hold and fire a weapon extensively before making a decision. So for that reason, I am going to do some pretty extensive range shooting via rentals before making up my mind.

I have shot my friends Glock 43 a few times and loved it. The size, the weight, how it felt in my hand etc, felt very natural to me. Whereas a few other hand guns we shot that day felt clunky and cumbersome. I'm sure as I gain experience shooting and my confidence level increases, my perspective will change on subcompacts, but for now, I don't think I can go wrong with either one of these.

Also, I have done a bunch of skeet shooting, some random range shooting, and went on a few hunting trips back in high school, so I do have 'some' experience shooting. However, I am of the mindset that mastery is key, so will be taking whichever weapon I decide on to the range several times before actually carrying.

I just enrolled in an online CCW course here in FL and will be submitting my application later this week. I was going to take the in person course, but with COVID and the sounds of the course from my uncle, I think online will suffice.

Looking forward to sharing my purchase decision later next month.

Thanks again,
Jordan
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Gentleman, I greatly appreciate all of the CCW recommendations. A lot of valuable information has been posted and has helped me narrow it down to (2) contenders for my first CC weapon. In addition to your recommendations, I reached out to my uncle who is a retired LEO, ex military, and owns several hundred firearms. He has recommended a Glock 43 or S&W M&P Shield for my first weapon. I am leaning towards the S&W for a few technical reasons, however, I think its important to hold and fire a weapon extensively before making a decision. So for that reason, I am going to do some pretty extensive range shooting via rentals before making up my mind.

I have shot my friends Glock 43 a few times and loved it. The size, the weight, how it felt in my hand etc, felt very natural to me. Whereas a few other hand guns we shot that day felt clunky and cumbersome. I'm sure as I gain experience shooting and my confidence level increases, my perspective will change on subcompacts, but for now, I don't think I can go wrong with either one of these.

Also, I have done a bunch of skeet shooting, some random range shooting, and went on a few hunting trips back in high school, so I do have 'some' experience shooting. However, I am of the mindset that mastery is key, so will be taking whichever weapon I decide on to the range several times before actually carrying.

I just enrolled in an online CCW course here in FL and will be submitting my application later this week. I was going to take the in person course, but with COVID and the sounds of the course from my uncle, I think online will suffice.

Looking forward to sharing my purchase decision later next month.

Thanks again,
Jordan
Good choices. I still recommend looking at the Taurus G2C and get past the brand. If you look it up youll find nothing but positive reviews on the particular gun. Main reason i suggest looking into this is it is nearly the exact same size as the shield and very similar ergonomics. However instead of 7/8+1 rds it holds 12+1 rds and ive shot both. The G2C is imo the better shooter.
Checking it out now.

Thanks,
Make sure you check out all of these suggestions in person. Making sure a pistol fits your hand is really important.
Yup! As soon as cases subside, we're going to a local range that has a rental program.

As of now my list of rentals that I'm going to shoot are (my buddy has the 43 already):


Glock 43
S&W Shield
Springfield XD
Taurus G2C

Hopefully they have all of these available. Should probably call and check before going. My buddy said you don't necessarily have to fire them to find the right gun, but rather just see how they feel in the hand.

Can't wait! Have been stuck in the YouTube firearm rabbit hole all weekend. My algorithm and advertising has completely changed, lol.
Depending on your size, and your hand size, the Shield may be small since its compact and SINGLE stack. Try doing 3 sets of your max push ups then shoot immediately to simulate accuracy in a self defense situation.

I conceal carry a Glock 19X with cargo shorts and a short sleeve without any issues. YMMV though. I'm 6 foot 3 and 230 pounds (on my good days lol). Whatever you choose, it should be the one you shoot best, not the most comfortable to conceal.
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Yeah I have a pre b cz75 but wont work for me for carry because cant work thr safety properly with my grip, need monkey thumbs I guess.
https://czcustom.com/cz-parts-all/sa...s-d-style.html

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Gentleman, I greatly appreciate all of the CCW recommendations. A lot of valuable information has been posted and has helped me narrow it down to (2) contenders for my first CC weapon. In addition to your recommendations, I reached out to my uncle who is a retired LEO, ex military, and owns several hundred firearms. He has recommended a Glock 43 or S&W M&P Shield for my first weapon. I am leaning towards the S&W for a few technical reasons, however, I think its important to hold and fire a weapon extensively before making a decision. So for that reason, I am going to do some pretty extensive range shooting via rentals before making up my mind.

I have shot my friends Glock 43 a few times and loved it. The size, the weight, how it felt in my hand etc, felt very natural to me. Whereas a few other hand guns we shot that day felt clunky and cumbersome. I'm sure as I gain experience shooting and my confidence level increases, my perspective will change on subcompacts, but for now, I don't think I can go wrong with either one of these.

Also, I have done a bunch of skeet shooting, some random range shooting, and went on a few hunting trips back in high school, so I do have 'some' experience shooting. However, I am of the mindset that mastery is key, so will be taking whichever weapon I decide on to the range several times before actually carrying.

I just enrolled in an online CCW course here in FL and will be submitting my application later this week. I was going to take the in person course, but with COVID and the sounds of the course from my uncle, I think online will suffice.

Looking forward to sharing my purchase decision later next month.

Thanks again,
Jordan
Another recommendation would be the P10C or P10S by CZ. Great pistols out of the box and they don't need any work done to them. I'm not a fan of S&W pistols triggers because they feel spongy. I don't like to modify my personal defense pistols to avoid anything coming back at me if I was in a position.

Another option, I also like to carry SA/DA pistols, I like my CZ RAMI. Small package with a nice capacity if you get a decocker model.
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Why the preference for the 43X over a P365? Still 9mm, same amount of rounds, but smaller.
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Why the preference for the 43X over a P365? Still 9mm, same amount of rounds, but smaller.
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Why the preference for the 43X over a P365? Still 9mm, same amount of rounds, but smaller.
Could be glock vs sig fans. The grip might be better on thr 43x as well. In my experience the thinner the gun the easier to conceal not just being overall smaller. Hence why myself at 6’1 180lbs can easily conceal my 1911 but have more trouble concealing my glock 23
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Agreed 1911 lot thinner than glock or most any of that the gun.
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While looking at Gray Guns' P365 upgrades, I was sold on the trigger work they offer for my HK P30 so I added myself to the queue. I'm really looking forward to this upgrade because the trigger is the one aspect of my P30 I feel needs improvement.

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Reduced Reset Carry Perfection Package

Comprehensive action refitting and smoothing work, full feed and reliability package; gauging of safety and sear engagement values and assessment of condition; sight regulation and thorough range testing.

This package includes an internal over-travel stop as necessary and a 12lb mainspring is provided for a reduced DA trigger pull of proven reliability when tested with your carry ammo. This package includes our Proprietary Reduced Reset providing approx. 40-45 percent reduction in total trigger reset and reuptake travel while maintaining Firing Pin Block integrity and all other factory safety values. Includes refinishing of all fire control parts with Nickel PTFE for the smoothest and most durable action possible. (Note: Some parts like hammer and axle will be externally visible.)

This package can be applied to the following Heckler & Koch pistols including: HK USP, USP Compact, P2000 or P2000SK, P30, P30L, P30SK, P30S, HK45, and HK45 Compact, and is applicable to all DA/SA, SAO, LEM or DAO action variants.
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Agreed 1911 lot thinner than glock or most any of that the gun.
This is why I carry one. I'm a smaller guy and the 1911 frame along with the single action trigger pull is what works best for me.

I've tried several other guns but I am so much more accurate and comfortable with a 1911 frame that I continue to carry it, despite it's limitations.

For me - accuracy > number of rounds in magazine.

YMMV
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This is why I carry one. I'm a smaller guy and the 1911 frame along with the single action trigger pull is what works best for me.

I've tried several other guns but I am so much more accurate and comfortable with a 1911 frame that I continue to carry it, despite it's limitations.

For me - accuracy > number of rounds in magazine.

YMMV
Do you carry a full size or a compact/officer model?
Mine is a full size kimber custom ii but ive been considering picking up an ultra carry
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