Unofficial Mma Chat #1

2000gsr · 10-25-2009, 01:09 AM

shogun got robbed!!! he won every round imho!

headlee103 · 10-25-2009, 01:40 AM

I have wrestled my whole life, and know that you can't leave it in the referees or judges hands. So really shogun should have known that he was gonna have to win it out right and not give the judges a chance to screw him. I thought it was a close fight and in my opinion shogun should have won. What I think is crazy is that not one judge had him winning! All 3 had it 48-47 machida.

addy85 · 10-25-2009, 03:54 AM

Any sites where I can watch the fights?

choicez · 10-25-2009, 05:37 AM

Can't believe the judges scored it for Machida to win the fight. Unbelievable.

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Originally Posted by addy85

Any sites where I can watch the fights?

http://mixedmartialartvideos.com//

It should be uploaded by tomorrow.

RGuard250 · 10-25-2009, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 2000gsr

shogun got robbed!!! he won every round imho!

Hmmm.... I don't agree with that, Machida clearly won round three. Once he lost round four, his fate was set... but somehow he was saved by the judges

NoKids · 10-25-2009, 10:54 AM

i dont know much about MMA, but i watched this fight with my brother who has watched MMA for a long time, even before it was popular. And we both thought Machada lost overwhelmingly.

when it was time for the refs decision, i asked my brother "would you be shocked if Machada won? what would you do if that happened?"

he said: "i would be completely SHOCKED if Machada won, and I would be done watching UFC "

lol. we'll see if he keeps his word.

that decision was worse than any wrigged boxing fight i've ever seen. how can anyone say Machida won 3 rounds. which ones?

johnnymu · 10-25-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TwoSaints

I know this wasn't aimed at me but are you talking about bjj or mma? If you're talking about BJJ, I plan on paying a visit to GB America in 2 weeks.

BJJ FTW!

FStop7 · 10-25-2009, 04:11 PM

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oh yea just had a rampage sighting when I was at the bank! he called me chuck cause my hair looks like his right now. I told him fuck chuck he told he was gonna k.o. evans at the end of the new ultimate fighter.

He is always crusing around irvine cause he lives here tyte to see him once in awhile.

I love rampage but WTF is up with him quitting to go hollywood? he can't act.

OC Guy · 10-26-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TwoSaints

I know this wasn't aimed at me but are you talking about bjj or mma? If you're talking about BJJ, I plan on paying a visit to GB America in 2 weeks.

Yes sir I am.

I usually am at the class 8-9.

BMW_TT · 10-26-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FStop7

I love rampage but WTF is up with him quitting to go hollywood? he can't act.

He is pretty damn funny though

BMW_TT · 10-26-2009, 04:23 PM

Shogun should be the winner and Dana even agrees.

I don't see how it was an unanimous decision anyways.

OC Guy · 10-26-2009, 04:36 PM

acknowledgement@pkghlrss.com

BJ PENN: Lol machida got owned. BTW I bruised his face up when I fought him last time too.

GSP: I enjoyed that decision very much but I felt Shogun won it. They need more gnp and take-downs imo.

ANDERSON SILVA: (In portuguese) Man that sucks. I really wanted to fight Shogun and now its not gonna happen.

BROCK LESNAR: And people think Machida can beat me? WTF

MIKE TYSON: Ahhhhhh that UFC match reminded me of how BOXING judges work..ahh the memories

Frank Trigg:
"Quick somebody call the cops, shogun got robbed"

Jamie Varner:
"Hands-down worst decision in MMA or even fight history!"

Jorge Gurgel:
"Wow. I was cheering for Machida, but believe Shogun just got robbed ... That is the very worst feeling in the world. Sucks"

Kenny Floran:
"I love Machida but Shogun won that fight!!"

Efrain Escudero:
"I'm sorry but Shogun won that fight easy."

Brendan Schaub:
"Shogun won that fight."

Denis Kang:
"Shogun got robbed last night IMO."

Joe Doerksen:
"Shogun won four rounds out of five ... I am disgusted."

Josh Barnett:
"I'd say draw but this is why you gotta finish them," reasoned heavyweight

Shane Carwin:
"Great night of fights. Further proof you have to finish as the judges just can't score MMA."

Joe Lauzon:
"This is why...You NEVER leave it to the judges! When you finish your opponent, you don't need to worry about judges!"

Strikeforce lightweight champion Josh Thompson seemed in the minority:
"Machida won! U have to beat the champ to be the champ and he didn't do that."

choicez · 12-13-2009, 04:57 PM

Just in case you missed UFC 107 last night...

http://mixedmartialartvideos.com/

Leilani · 12-14-2009, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by OC 335i

Josh Barnett:
"I'd say draw but this is why you gotta finish them," reasoned heavyweight

Shane Carwin:
"Great night of fights. Further proof you have to finish as the judges just can't score MMA."

Joe Lauzon:
"This is why...You NEVER leave it to the judges! When you finish your opponent, you don't need to worry about judges!"

Strikeforce lightweight champion Josh Thompson seemed in the minority:
"Machida won! U have to beat the champ to be the champ and he didn't do that."

I just found this thread (did I post my UFC107 thread in the wrong forum - The Lighter Side?) and I agree with the comments above. Shogun did not get robbed, he didn't finish or clearly defeat Machida, so he didn't deserve the title...period.

Robbed is what Buentello was against Struve, IMHO.

san~man · 12-14-2009, 02:14 PM

Damn, Diego got buss up. I wonder who, if anyone, can beat BJ at 155.

Wonder if Aldo would move up in weight?

choicez · 12-14-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by san~man

Damn, Diego got buss up. I wonder who, if anyone, can beat BJ at 155.

Wonder if Aldo would move up in weight?

GSP should come down in weight and beat him up again.

OC Guy · 12-14-2009, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by choicez

GSP should come down in weight and beat him up again.

There is no way in hell GSP can cut that low. He's too big. He would not beat him if he was a 155 lber.

san~man · 12-14-2009, 11:20 PM

+1

considering gsp probably walks around about 185-190 when not cutting weight, losing that weight would be extremely difficult. Even if he did, he'd be so dehydrated he wouldn't perform at his current level

OC Guy · 12-15-2009, 02:44 AM

He has an extremely low body fat at 170. It's not like he has anything to lose...

SpecC · 12-15-2009, 02:55 AM

just have bj penn pull an alistair overeem

BEEFY!

dr.jay · 12-15-2009, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by OC 335i

He has an extremely low body fat at 170. It's not like he has anything to lose...

If GSP would want to get to 155 he would have to start amputating limbs, he walks around at 185-190 on weigh in's he goes to 170 and by fight time he's back at or around his normal weight. When GSP fought Alves, Alves was fighting @ 200lbs when he cut to 170 for weigh in

Leilani · 12-15-2009, 09:02 AM

BJ Penn and GSP are best in their own weight classes...period. BJ going up to fight GSP was a mistake. Nice try, but he was out of his league. Doesn't make any sense for GSP to go down to fight BJ.

10-25-2009, 01:09 AM	#397
2000gsr First Lieutenant 18 Rep 397 Posts Drives: 2018 M4 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Toronto, ON iTrader: (0)	shogun got robbed!!! he won every round imho!
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headlee103 Lieutenant Colonel 58 Rep 1,622 Posts Drives: e90 335xi Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Bethlehem, PA iTrader: (4) Garage List 2007 328xi [10.00]	I have wrestled my whole life, and know that you can't leave it in the referees or judges hands. So really shogun should have known that he was gonna have to win it out right and not give the judges a chance to screw him. I thought it was a close fight and in my opinion shogun should have won. What I think is crazy is that not one judge had him winning! All 3 had it 48-47 machida.
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NoKids Major 327 Rep 1,343 Posts Drives: ... Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ottawa iTrader: (1) Garage List 2008 328i [0.00]	i dont know much about MMA, but i watched this fight with my brother who has watched MMA for a long time, even before it was popular. And we both thought Machada lost overwhelmingly. when it was time for the refs decision, i asked my brother "would you be shocked if Machada won? what would you do if that happened?" he said: "i would be completely SHOCKED if Machada won, and I would be done watching UFC " lol. we'll see if he keeps his word. that decision was worse than any wrigged boxing fight i've ever seen. how can anyone say Machida won 3 rounds. which ones? __________________
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10-26-2009, 04:23 PM	#407
BMW_TT Colonel 240 Rep 2,547 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Dallas, TX iTrader: (4)	Shogun should be the winner and Dana even agrees. I don't see how it was an unanimous decision anyways.
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10-26-2009, 04:36 PM	#408
OC Guy General 559 Rep 18,123 Posts Drives: AW 335D E90 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Irvine/Aliso Viejo, CA iTrader: (9) Garage List 2007 335i [0.00]	acknowledgement@pkghlrss.com BJ PENN: Lol machida got owned. BTW I bruised his face up when I fought him last time too. GSP: I enjoyed that decision very much but I felt Shogun won it. They need more gnp and take-downs imo. ANDERSON SILVA: (In portuguese) Man that sucks. I really wanted to fight Shogun and now its not gonna happen. BROCK LESNAR: And people think Machida can beat me? WTF MIKE TYSON: Ahhhhhh that UFC match reminded me of how BOXING judges work..ahh the memories Frank Trigg: "Quick somebody call the cops, shogun got robbed" Jamie Varner: "Hands-down worst decision in MMA or even fight history!" Jorge Gurgel: "Wow. I was cheering for Machida, but believe Shogun just got robbed ... That is the very worst feeling in the world. Sucks" Kenny Floran: "I love Machida but Shogun won that fight!!" Efrain Escudero: "I'm sorry but Shogun won that fight easy." Brendan Schaub: "Shogun won that fight." Denis Kang: "Shogun got robbed last night IMO." Joe Doerksen: "Shogun won four rounds out of five ... I am disgusted." Josh Barnett: "I'd say draw but this is why you gotta finish them," reasoned heavyweight Shane Carwin: "Great night of fights. Further proof you have to finish as the judges just can't score MMA." Joe Lauzon: "This is why...You NEVER leave it to the judges! When you finish your opponent, you don't need to worry about judges!" Strikeforce lightweight champion Josh Thompson seemed in the minority: "Machida won! U have to beat the champ to be the champ and he didn't do that." __________________ Current: 2010 Alpine White 335D LCI l 19" BBS LMs l KW V2 Coilovers l BMW Performance Grilles l MSport Front/Rear l Karbonwerke Trunk l F1 Pinnacle Tint 35% Former: E92 Space Grey 335i Latest pics
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12-13-2009, 04:57 PM	#409
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san~man Tired 136 Rep 2,673 Posts Drives: BMW-less Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (7)	Damn, Diego got buss up. I wonder who, if anyone, can beat BJ at 155. Wonder if Aldo would move up in weight? __________________ BMW-less
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12-14-2009, 11:20 PM	#414
san~man Tired 136 Rep 2,673 Posts Drives: BMW-less Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (7)	+1 considering gsp probably walks around about 185-190 when not cutting weight, losing that weight would be extremely difficult. Even if he did, he'd be so dehydrated he wouldn't perform at his current level __________________ BMW-less
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OC Guy General 559 Rep 18,123 Posts Drives: AW 335D E90 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Irvine/Aliso Viejo, CA iTrader: (9) Garage List 2007 335i [0.00]	He has an extremely low body fat at 170. It's not like he has anything to lose... __________________ Current: 2010 Alpine White 335D LCI l 19" BBS LMs l KW V2 Coilovers l BMW Performance Grilles l MSport Front/Rear l Karbonwerke Trunk l F1 Pinnacle Tint 35% Former: E92 Space Grey 335i Latest pics
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