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First post here - been lurking this forum for a while but never had anything to say, until now.
I agree with the reviewer atleast partially. Even though I'm ok with the sound, the introduction of turbos changes the character of the car. You get better performance, lower emissions, the low-end torque is great but there is something definitely lost when the engine is turbocharged. Mind you, all my cars except Miata are turbocharged and I'm very well familiar with the advantages and quirks of the turbo. As much as like the power surge, there are times I wish I had a super high revving NA engine with a throaty exhaust. Part of the experience is those minor intangible things that really can't be described in writing. I'm pretty sure NA Porsches will be the next hot market items in 8-10 years. Just like how older manual super cars are worth a lot more than their Single/Dual clutch counterparts. I'm not sure if they'll get as ridiculously expensive as air-cooled 911s, but they'll definitely hold their value. This makes the new R8 a rare breed of NA high-revving supercars. But, unfortunately no manual this time around. Edit: Atleast, the 911 still has a 6-cyl turbo. The Boxster and Cayman are going 4-cyl turbo. That is just an abomination. |
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Great discussion here. I've always thought that the all-motor Porsche 991 would be mind blowing.....I finally got to drive one HARD and for several hours since my buddy rented one for the day during his layover here in L.A. It wasn't an S but I still expected something a little more - needless to say I was very dissapointed. It sounded great at HIGH rpms, pulled a little but just lacked the grunt needed to entice me. No I wasn't looking for top speed, or a max-revving, all-motor sound.....I guess you could say that since it was a new 991 I was expecting a LOT more.
That being said - I find that the overall experience of my M4 is just great. I couldn't be happier - even with the non-V8 exhaust note. I have the AWE Exhaust installed (non-res) and love the sound my car makes. It's grown on me and is quite intoxicating. For some I guess "sound" is so important. and I get it. But the reality for me is the overall experience of that "sound". Your car doesn't wail all the time. Mostly we're driving around town, going on nice drives and the occasional grocery run. My car sounds great in all these scenarios where I spend 90% of my time driving (the other 10% is track days or highly spirited driving). Small accelerations, on-ramp/off ramp surges, easy overtaking on the freeways...Just so awesome in the M4. The ride quality is also juuuuust where I want it to be - without being unnecessarily bone jarring. So much win here.
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Yeah, I get it, you like exhaust, it's the most important thing to you. Rock on.
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Maybe you should watch this video to further understand what I am trying to say. I could have bet all my money on which car would win this, and again, it's by far not the car with best performance. You take care now.
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This isn't about winning and you know it... but anyways, let's finish this discussion.
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I am looking forward to taking a test drive myself. Thanks for sharing your write up.
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