[solstice]

Originally Posted by solstice

Weights on these parts sites are notoriously unreliable. It had the HUD at something like 100 lbs that someone referenced over in the M3 section.

Not the same number as was referenced but still an example on the slightly suspect numbers:

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/partxref?q=62309865042

HUD at 1451kg

[StickyPickle]

Originally Posted by Tag

Not sure what you're referring to. Where do you see that?

I read that wrong, my bad. That would be pretty light if true. I'm not sure but the G series moonroof looks larger, at least it does in my M240

[Tag]

Originally Posted by solstice

Not the same number as was referenced but still an example on the slightly suspect numbers:

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/partxref?q=62309865042

HUD at 1451kg

Clearly that's an outlier, but I wouldn't just blanket dismiss everything else because of this one instance.

[koastal]

3900+ lbs
They are clearly embarrassed about its weight (as they should be) conveniently left off spec sheets.

https://www.whichcar.com.au/reviews/...3ck8fHa.S3fpgi

[MmmmmM2]

Originally Posted by koastal

3900+ lbs
They are clearly embarrassed about its weight (as they should be) conveniently left off spec sheets.

https://www.whichcar.com.au/reviews/...3ck8fHa.S3fpgi

Oooof that is heavy. Hopefully they are wrong.

[StickyPickle]

Originally Posted by koastal

3900+ lbs
They are clearly embarrassed about its weight (as they should be) conveniently left off spec sheets.

https://www.whichcar.com.au/reviews/...3ck8fHa.S3fpgi

No way that's true

[LivingInSalt]

Guys, those are Australian pounds though. You have to convert to American

[Tag]

Perhaps they calculate vehicle weight differently in Australia. Similar to how Curb Weight, DIN and EU all use different methods to calculate the weight of a vehicle for different regions. The bigger question to me (if true) is how did they get those figures? BMW is hush hush about everything with any new car and if that info was actually leaked would be a big F'n deal to them.

[solstice]

Originally Posted by Tag

Perhaps they calculate vehicle weight differently in Australia. Similar to how Curb Weight, DIN and EU all use different methods to calculate the weight of a vehicle for different regions. The bigger question to me (if true) is how did they get those figures? BMW is hush hush about everything with any new car and if that info was actually leaked would be a big F'n deal to them.

On the other hand if the news is bad better to get it out there as early as possible so people can digest it and mainly be done with wringing their hands and shouting the sky is falling before the car hit the showrooms. If this is a real leak it’s a smart one.

[solstice]

And in regards to how they calculate weight doesn’t really matter when he says this (bigger car being an M4)

“The bigger car does however retain a 35kg weight advantage”

It does sound completely crazy though if it’s over 100 lbs heavier than the Xdrive M240i…

[Tag]

Originally Posted by solstice

And in regards to how they calculate weight doesn’t really matter when he says this (bigger car being an M4)

“The bigger car does however retain a 35kg weight advantage”

It does sound completely crazy though if it’s over 100 lbs heavier than the Xdrive M240i…

So, I checked BMWs Australian site for an M4 RWD and it looks like they use EU weight measurements which is why the car shows as 1,775kg or 3,913 lbs. The EU weight factors in 75kg for passengers and luggage. If we look at the DIN weight it's actually 1,700kg or 3,748 lbs. The USA site shows the Curb Weight for the M4 RWD as 3,830 lbs. If the numbers are legit we can just subtract 35kg or 77 lbs from the Curb Weight which would total 3,753 lbs for the G87. For reference the Curb Weight of the M240i xDrive is 3,871 lbs on the USA site, a difference of 118 lbs which is right in line with what I kind of expected the G87 to weigh. You can do the same for the DIN weight, subtracting 35kg comes out to 1,665kg or 3,671 lbs. For the EU weight it comes out to 1,740kg or 3,836 lbs. Remember, the DIN/EU numbers also include the extra weight of the particulate filters which NA cars don't get. We all knew the G87 was going to be a porker, but being a larger car than an F87, if it's only gained ~150 lbs I could live with that.

[Karmic Man]

Originally Posted by Tag

So, I checked BMWs Australian site for an M4 RWD and it looks like they use EU weight measurements which is why the car shows as 1,775kg or 3,913 lbs. The EU weight factors in 75kg for passengers and luggage. If we look at the DIN weight it's actually 1,700kg or 3,748 lbs. The USA site shows the Curb Weight for the M4 RWD as 3,830 lbs. If the numbers are legit we can just subtract 35kg or 77 lbs from the Curb Weight which would total 3,753 lbs for the G87. For reference the Curb Weight of the M240i xDrive is 3,871 lbs on the USA site, a difference of 118 lbs which is right in line with what I kind of expected the G87 to weigh. You can do the same for the DIN weight, subtracting 35kg comes out to 1,665kg or 3,671 lbs. For the EU weight it comes out to 1,740kg or 3,836 lbs. Remember, the DIN/EU numbers also include the extra weight of the particulate filters which NA cars don't get. We all knew the G87 was going to be a porker, but being a larger car than an F87, if it's only gained ~150 lbs I could live with that.

Good maths 👍

[koastal]

Originally Posted by Tag

So, I checked BMWs Australian site for an M4 RWD and it looks like they use EU weight measurements which is why the car shows as 1,775kg or 3,913 lbs. The EU weight factors in 75kg for passengers and luggage. If we look at the DIN weight it's actually 1,700kg or 3,748 lbs. The USA site shows the Curb Weight for the M4 RWD as 3,830 lbs. If the numbers are legit we can just subtract 35kg or 77 lbs from the Curb Weight which would total 3,753 lbs for the G87. For reference the Curb Weight of the M240i xDrive is 3,871 lbs on the USA site, a difference of 118 lbs which is right in line with what I kind of expected the G87 to weigh. You can do the same for the DIN weight, subtracting 35kg comes out to 1,665kg or 3,671 lbs. For the EU weight it comes out to 1,740kg or 3,836 lbs. Remember, the DIN/EU numbers also include the extra weight of the particulate filters which NA cars don't get. We all knew the G87 was going to be a porker, but being a larger car than an F87, if it's only gained ~150 lbs I could live with that.

Perfect except you have to add 35kg not subtract i believe

[Tag]

[Game]

Originally Posted by koastal

3900+ lbs
They are clearly embarrassed about its weight (as they should be) conveniently left off spec sheets.

https://www.whichcar.com.au/reviews/...3ck8fHa.S3fpgi

I wish everyone would stop referencing this site who's clearly just throwing out speculative numbers left and right with zero evidence. Can't imagine they were even at the open driving event.

[Karmic Man]

Originally Posted by koastal

Perfect except you have to add 35kg not subtract i believe

They already said that it will be lighter than the M4

[koastal]

Originally Posted by Karmic Man

They already said that it will be lighter than the M4

I didnt see that in "that" article.

"The bigger car does however retain a 35kg weight advantage, which is largely due to a mix of pricier and more exotic low-calorie materials. Although homologation is not yet complete, the M2 will tip the scales at 1810kg, sources say"

I assumed Bigger Car means the dimensionally larger one eg. M4

[Karmic Man]

Originally Posted by koastal

I didnt see that in "that" article.

"The bigger car does however retain a 35kg weight advantage, which is largely due to a mix of pricier and more exotic low-calorie materials. Although homologation is not yet complete, the M2 will tip the scales at 1810kg, sources say"

I assumed Bigger Car means the dimensionally larger one eg. M4

I think it might be incorrect for whatever reason. Their conversation with other journalists contradicted this

Here is one

https://www.forbes.com/wheels/news/2...ype-drive/?amp

[koastal]

Originally Posted by Karmic Man

I think it might be incorrect for whatever reason. Their conversation with other journalists contradicted this

Here is one

https://www.forbes.com/wheels/news/2...ype-drive/?amp

Shit article no data.
Time will tell what its real weight is.
Ridiculous though that the smallest M has got fat

[ASAP]

Originally Posted by koastal

3900+ lbs
They are clearly embarrassed about its weight (as they should be) conveniently left off spec sheets.

https://www.whichcar.com.au/reviews/...3ck8fHa.S3fpgi

There is no way that's real...

As a point of reference a current Lexus GS350 weighs 3730 lbs lmao.

[koastal]

Originally Posted by ASAP

There is no way that's real...

As a point of reference a current Lexus GS350 weighs 3730 lbs lmao.

I hope you are right !

I wonder why they are evasive

[solstice]

Originally Posted by koastal

I hope you are right !

I wonder why they are evasive

Because they always are, the actual weight is never disclosed before the official launch