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      05-31-2024, 02:56 PM   #23
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I thought they loose co2 in a couple of seconds after inflating.
That would make them useless, if the car is rolling you want them inflated.
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      05-31-2024, 02:58 PM   #24
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Looks like the car slipped when transitioning out of the prepped area, a natural instinct to tap the brakes makes it even worse to control. A parachute could've saved the day; you see racers deploy the parachute before even crossing the beam and only brake once the parachute is deployed and keeping the car straight.

The car held up amazing considering the speed and no roll bar, he was fortunate to walk out of that one.
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It looks like he might have:
1 - Pushed water from the lifting the head at the big end
2 - There was a some sort of water/fluid on the track
3 - It just broke loose after the prep

It looked like it broke loose under power versus chassis upset after lifting off the gas.

Tough break but anything running 9’s or quicker should have all safety equipment. That car also needed a chute.
I used to drag race with some friends when I lived in Texas, there's a pretty robust drag racing scene there with many strips all over the place. One of the things I learned early and had reiterated often was the limitations / speeds / etc and safety equipment requirements.

1. By the time you drop into the 10s, roll cages are required. Alternatively, if you can hit 135+ you are also required to have a cage

2. Anything below 10s has to have the frame and cage certified by the NHRA and there are more requirements around padding

3. Fire extinguishers, window nets, external ignition kill switches, and some other stuff also become mandatory under 10s / over 135 mph

4. Under 10s also requires a competitor's license, fire retardant clothing, full body coverage, etc.

5. There are best practices around securing batteries, swapping fuel tanks for fuel cells, etc in the general street classes

6. Specific requirements around harmonic balancers for engines once you drop into the 10s

7. Parachute is required at 150 mph+

At the end of the day this is another example of "safety regulations are written in blood". Going fast is only half of the racing equation. Doing it safely enough to stop is the other half.

I had a '98 Camaro build complete with a roll cage and everything, but no parachute because I used it more for autocross than drag racing though I did run 11s with it a few times. My buddy had a < 8s 2001 Trans Am running a turbo LS1 + NOS setup.

Glad this dude in the video is alright, but if you're going to go through the trouble of building that car and driving it 3 hours to race (good job taking it to the track and not on the street) I hope they learn their lesson from this and build in the safety aspects for the next car.

Oh and FWIW, it's entirely possible to build a "super sleeper" and have the roll cage and everything integrated so well most people won't notice it unless they're sitting in your car. So no excuses around obvious looks or anything.
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      05-31-2024, 03:01 PM   #25
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Wow thats a nasty crash! The time it took to get out with the airbags is a real eye opener. Glad he's ok
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      05-31-2024, 03:06 PM   #26
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Half-true.

Insurance doesn’t cover racing/competition.

Not all track activities are racing.

This clearly is, as it’s timed.
Nope, a lot of insurance companies have a disclaimer against off road or high performance track events. They even drop your policy if they find you autocross or do HPDE events.
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wow a very safe car, i give it a pass for crash test at 170mph
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      05-31-2024, 03:37 PM   #28
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Why did he turn the wipers on after the crash? Maybe he saw the rain and slipped, but couldn’t activate them in time.
When turning the steering wheel he accidentally activated them.
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Yup, I hear in the US things vary a lot (when we were discussing a deer hit, and the insurance in the US would consider that a collision, not comprehensive like here).

But even if the insurance covers an HPDE event (auto cross is racing), I agree it’s sketchy and nerve wrecking waiting to hear back from them. Everything can be a lawsuit to get your rights.
Vehicle damage from hitting a deer is covered by your auto policy's comprehensive coverage
. Comprehensive can cover damages to your car caused by events that are
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Yup, that’s what I mean. Our friend in some state didn’t have that luck.
It all has to do with how you present the claim, as wording is super important.
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Yup, that’s what I mean. Our friend in some state didn’t have that luck.

Edit: my bad, it wasn’t deer, it was a rock! Sorry
A flying rock is always considered comprehensive

If you hit a large rock sitting in the middle of the road, it’s considered collision

Of course, I would say that rock was rolling right at me when I hit it, thus being comprehensive… 😇
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Sorry to be negative Nelly… but why the hell is he holding the wheel with one hand while doing high speed drag runs? The wheel has paddles for a reason. Some people blow my mind honestly.
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Half-true.

Insurance doesn’t cover racing/competition.

Not all track activities are racing.

This clearly is, as it’s timed.
Not in the UK. Car insurance is strictly for public road use. Insurance companies state any use on track is prohibited, they’ve even added Nordschleife as an exclusion because despite it being a public road, it’s considered a ‘race road’.
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Do stupid things win stupid prizes. The kid is lucky BMW did their safety homework, otherwise he’s ☠️. Rollcage, fire extinguisher, and chute on an 8 second car.
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I’m wondering what was the official reason why they are not covering. Driver fault? Track road?
I've always wondered about insurance coverage for motorsports.

I'm pretty sure I remember being told that you need to make your insurance company aware beforehand , and purchase additional coverage..... i think.
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Why did he turn the wipers on after the crash? Maybe he saw the rain and slipped, but couldn’t activate them in time.
At time impact, once the auto-wipers detected water, they automatically turned on.

As for what exactly the water/fluid was - I'm not sure. It was very clear, like water.
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Btw he already got a new Thundernight on Cognac M240i lol. This guy can’t be stopped
The cheap always comes out expensive

Maybe he’ll go take some lessons from a pro driver and get some proper safety equipment before risking his life again
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This was clearly an inexperienced group of people using a car for purposes that it was not built for and this is The consequences when you use something that’s not designed for something.

Everything is a learning experience hopefully he will learn his lesson and hopefully he’s able to buy a new car and build a proper drag car.
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Hopefully no consequences for the driver
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Hopefully no consequences for the driver and for the car design.
What do you mean?

The car design specifically , do you mean there might be increased scrutinization of the G42 platform for running 8 second 1/4 mile passes ?
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1Stock is going to come back even stronger, these guys have been pushing power out of the B58's
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