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      02-22-2025, 07:58 AM   #23
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Nope. I ordered a manual.

I'll swap out the mounts and get an short shifter with a weighted selection rod.

Can't be any worse than my E30 and E36.
Exactly.

I will always pick a manual if it’s an option because they are objectively more fun and engaging. Rubbery? Not quite. I think the throws are too long though and a SSK will fix that.
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      02-22-2025, 10:17 AM   #24
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Tell them to put the shipping pucks in your glovebox. If they aren’t in there, make them show you they’re out on a lift
Thank you - I will do that. Can I ask one more question about them? Looking at the link Tag posted, can you confirm it will be 2 white and 1 blue per corner? So I should have 12 total in my glove?
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Thank you - I will do that. Can I ask one more question about them? Looking at the link Tag posted, can you confirm it will be 2 white and 1 blue per corner? So I should have 12 total in my glove?
Just drive the car and if something feels off ask them to put it on the lift and inspect it. They'll even let you go into the service area to watch; all you need to do is ask.
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      02-22-2025, 11:59 AM   #26
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The hate the manual gets is something else with these "reviews". The manual is fine, not the best and not the worse I've driven. Can always mod the shifter and tweak it for better feel. I'd say the ride in comfort is just about right for a performance car.
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The suspension is firm but dampens the impacts well. You will feel every bump and crevice in the road but it won't crack your teeth. I may have an altered viewpoint though as our other car is a '24 740 and that thing is like driving a lounge chair on marshmallows...ha ha
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The hate the manual gets is something else with these "reviews". The manual is fine, not the best and not the worse I've driven. Can always mod the shifter and tweak it for better feel. I'd say the ride in comfort is just about right for a performance car.
The entire 2 series (240 and m2) get a bizzare amount of hate in reviews across the board. It's like they all got together and shared notes on talking points along with having a generally negative disposition to the cars.

This is my first BMW and I generally have not liked BMW's but I found the 240 and M2 to be very much not in line with these reviews. By far the most compelling offerings in the small segment they occupy.

I feel like the only people who actually reviews these cars correctly are Joe Achilles and Misha Chadrouin
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      02-22-2025, 02:20 PM   #29
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I feel like the only people who actually reviews these cars correctly are Joe Achilles and Misha Chadrouin
Chris Harris also did a great review of the g87 if you haven't seen it. I'm still mad at Throttle House for flooring it in 4th gear @ 30mph and complaining about "turbo lag".
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      02-22-2025, 02:54 PM   #30
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the manual in that car is broken period. the manual is perfectly fine, its not a porsche manual but its perfectly fine. They have no idea what they are talking about with the suspension, its a plush ride. i think the car they were given was probably beaten on heavily before they got it
100% on all points.
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The entire 2 series (240 and m2) get a bizzare amount of hate in reviews across the board. It's like they all got together and shared notes on talking points along with having a generally negative disposition to the cars.

This is my first BMW and I generally have not liked BMW's but I found the 240 and M2 to be very much not in line with these reviews. By far the most compelling offerings in the small segment they occupy.

I feel like the only people who actually reviews these cars correctly are Joe Achilles and Misha Chadrouin
Don’t forget Doug DeMuro
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      02-22-2025, 08:02 PM   #33
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It really depends on what you’re used to. My former M2 rode better than my F250 but not better than my Bronco Raptor. It’s firm and can cause squeaks and rattles due to its firm ride.
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Don’t forget Doug DeMuro
I like Doug’s sly smile when he says, “lots of people hate on this car but I’m not one of them….”
Doug is agenda free. Although I could never afford a GT4, the drive portion of his GT4 review when he’s merging hard onto the freeway makes me wanna at least try to buy one. He’s unabashedly joyful.
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And Chris Harris (as already mentioned) and the Smoking Tyre. People who i respect as reviewers and know what they are talking about tend to rate the M2. Throttle House must have been having a bad day when they initially reviewed the M2 - their subsequent review of the auto (when they had it against the RS3) was much better (I still don't agree with their conclusion but they did walk back their criticism of the M2 somewhat).
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And Chris Harris (as already mentioned) and the Smoking Tyre. People who i respect as reviewers and know what they are talking about tend to rate the M2. Throttle House must have been having a bad day when they initially reviewed the M2 - their subsequent review of the auto (when they had it against the RS3) was much better (I still don't agree with their conclusion but they did walk back their criticism of the M2 somewhat).
I loved when Matt Farah did a nice 1 minute preview of the car, then abruptly stops and stands in front of the car on a canyon turnaround and says “Weird. It looks weird.” It cracks me up.
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I loved when Matt Farah did a nice 1 minute preview of the car, then abruptly stops and stands in front of the car on a canyon turnaround and says “Weird. It looks weird.” It cracks me up.
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I loved that too!!
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      02-22-2025, 09:46 PM   #38
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I like Doug’s sly smile when he says, “lots of people hate on this car but I’m not one of them….”
Doug is agenda free. Although I could never afford a GT4, the drive portion of his GT4 review when he’s merging hard onto the freeway makes me wanna at least try to buy one. He’s unabashedly joyful.
I looked at Doug's spreadsheet many years ago and noted that he gave the E46 M3 and E39 M5 the same score in the handling department. Haven't watched any of his videos since.

And -1 for Matt Farah. Dude had the gall to compare an E46 M3 to a Ford Focus. He's biased in own ways. I see a theme here in how I judge reviewers based on what they say about the E46 lol. And then the reviewers/couch journalists alike who drive a neglected 170,000 mile spec and base their opinions on that..

The only G87 review I ever needed.
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I LOVE these guys so this was the only review that butt hurt me. 33:45
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I looked at Doug's spreadsheet many years ago and noted that he gave the E46 M3 and E39 M5 the same score in the handling department. Haven't watched any of his videos since.

And -1 for Matt Farah. Dude had the gall to compare an E46 M3 to a Ford Focus. He's biased in own ways. I see a theme here in how I judge reviewers based on what they say about the E46 lol. And then the reviewers/couch journalists alike who drive a neglected 170,000 mile spec and base their opinions on that..

The only G87 review I ever needed.
I’m using the car as a daily and cross country road trip GT. If anyone comes up with a better $75k option than the G87, I’m all ears.
Caveat: my wife won’t road-trip in a C8 or 718
I’m super pumped to finally get one, hopefully in time to make the run up to Montreal for F1
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I have a 25. The suspension is stiff but well dampened. Significantly better than my Integra type S I traded in for this. So for me it feels plush
I was tryin to decide whether I was going to buy the m2 or the integra type s but went with the m2 cause they gave me $4,000 off MSRP. Was $74,500 with all the options but I told them that if they give it to me for $70,500, I'll pay for it in cash and take it home right away. They agreed and I don't regret a single thing. The car is absolutely amazing, and whoever can get a good deal on one should buy it!
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I’m using the car as a daily and cross country road trip GT. If anyone comes up with a better $75k option than the G87, I’m all ears.
Caveat: my wife won’t road-trip in a C8 or 718
I’m super pumped to finally get one, hopefully in time to make the run up to Montreal for F1
RS3? That I5 is sublime plus AWD.
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I've got no problem with the 6MT. It's actually damn good. It will be better with a SSK, which is my next mod.

Wish the steering had more feel. Nothing like the beautiful BMW hydraulic steering racks prior to 2014.
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RS3? That I5 is sublime plus AWD.
After tons of VAGS, I look forward to a new brand. I rate the 25 RS3 5 out of 5 Ricks.
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