[BishUK]

I honestly still can't believe they've made an M2 (or an M car) without side vents/gills.
…..the mind boggles!

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

Why not

They could try to milk it

It will most likely will be the last Z4

It will be. The Z4 is dead after the G29.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

It will be. The Z4 is dead after the G29.

That's what I figured

With Zupra selling, reasonably well I was curious as to what might be the future

[GerryM5]

Front end change for the worst. Rea end interesting but does look practical.

[SK2K]

Originally Posted by rideontwo

Yikes... You know there is a major issue when Fanbois of the Fugly looking 2022 Subaru WRX are calling this an abomination.

"she's a beautiful to me"

[Jadar]

Damn that rear bumper looks really odd. I'll
Give it a chance when I see more photos. I still can't stand the fugly g80 front but I don't want
To rush to judgment off leaked photos.

[Orange fever]

All this talk about this front bumper and rear pictures. We're not even getting that bumper and the rear bumper...lol 😆

[Kevin_The_Clean1]

I have no doubt the final production MG87 M2 will look far better then that odd angle leaked photo of the rear does...

[dallas06m3]

Sorry to ask you to look at that back end again, but I can't figure out how the trunk opens without scratching the taillights. What's going on there? Does it have a special swing out hinge? (I never thought I'd ever miss chrome trim before I saw this thing.)

[Tag]

Originally Posted by dallas06m3

Sorry to ask you to look at that back end again, but I can't figure out how the trunk opens without scratching the taillights. What's going on there? Does it have a special swing out hinge? (I never thought I'd ever miss chrome trim before I saw this thing.)

[KevM2]

Not sure anyone has already mentioned this but this rectangular rear diffuser makes me so angry!! Why the hell would they design it with such sharp angles!!!

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by KevM2

Not sure anyone has already mentioned this but this rectangular rear diffuser makes me so angry!! Why the hell would they design it with such sharp angles!!!

It's not rectangular. You and a few others are blind. If you look closely, it angles under the bumper. The bad picture quality coupled with the diffuser being painted gloss black somewhat obscures the shape.

[Sedan_Clan]

These two photos from the thread show the angled portion of the diffuser.

[DBV]

Well... Black Sapphire Metallic it is then

[Swish77]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I still find it laughable to bring Porsche into any of these comparisons. An ///M car has far more usability than any 911 or Cayman. Sure, people daily drive them, but more people daily drive their ///M cars. The assertion that the 911 is somehow daily driven more often than an M2 is absolutely absurd; most are, at best, weekend cars….and at worst, full on garage queens (…because the vast majority of P-Car owners are overly concerned about mileage and resale). Even from a financial standpoint, to build a 911 that is equivalent to a well optioned ///M in terms of feel/quality means you'll be spending another $30k in options as Porsche price gouges for EVERYTHING. I optioned up my C2S nearly $30k just to get it on par with my prior Individual M4 with full leather, etc. (…and the fact that my C2S had a base price of $117k - and a fully built price of $146k - while my most recent '17 F82 M4 was $85k-ish with most option boxes checked including Individual paint, really puts it into perspective). The reality of the times also requires that you add another $25-40k ADM to get into any non-GT 911; I was extremely lucky to know somebody with enough pull to get me a small discount on my '22 C2S. So by today's standards, a well optioned C2S will cost you $170-185k-ish while an M3/M4/M2 will still be sub-$100k or just a little over $100k under all but the most compelling circumstances (…e.g. CSL). There really is no comparison. It's like comparing the price of a Staccato versus that of a high end Sig. They aren't even close.


P.S. Base model Porsche 911 interiors are equivalent to a 328i.

Great break-down. As a former 911 owner (twice) and current M2C owner, I agree 100 percent. The 911, while a beautiful car in many regards, is just not a good daily.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Swish77

Great break-down. As a former 911 owner (twice) and current M2C owner, I agree 100 percent. The 911, while a beautiful car in many regards, is just not a good daily.

Yep!….and I'm guilty myself. My 992 is a weekend car simply because I have a commuter Corolla and the 992 was purchased with the sole intention of it being a car that I drive on weekends, special occasions, etc. Lugging around police gear in a 992 would be a pain in the ass.

[m981addicts]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Yep!….and I'm guilty myself. My 992 is a weekend car simply because I have a commuter Corolla and the 992 was purchased with the sole intention of it being a car that I drive on weekends, special occasions, etc. Lugging around police gear in a 992 would be a pain in the ass.

My son says his 911-T is a wonderful daily (until he gets his allocated Gt3 soon)! Need more hauling? He has a Raptor for that. Need to drive clients around? No problem with the Land Cruiser. Weekend canyon runner? S2000 for that. Wifey & kiddie mobile? Honda Odyssey.
I tried to sell him on an M3 once (which would have been the perfect daily). Unfortunately, the local 'client advisors' were jerks (that's what happens when the only two dealers in your state are owned by the same entity).

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by m981addicts

My son says his 911-T is a wonderful daily (until he gets his allocated Gt3 soon)! Need more hauling? He has a Raptor for that. Need to drive clients around? No problem with the Land Cruiser. Weekend canyon runner? S2000 for that. Wifey & kiddie mobile? Honda Odyssey.
I tried to sell him on an M3 once. Unfortunately, the local client reps were jerks.

Haha! The beautiful daily not used for daily tasks. Gotta love it!……but hey, the M3/M4 and the 911 are just the same (…says only forum members living in fantasy land).

[SocalBM]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Haha! The beautiful daily not used for daily tasks. Gotta love it!……but hey, the M3/M4 and the 911 are just the same (…says only forum members living in fantasy land).

Who ever said they were the same? There is some cross over between the two and it entirely depends on how/why you're using your car. 911 is a fine daily for someone who doesn't have kids, or crap roads, any number of other reasons. M2 is a great fun car if you also want or need it to be versatile and you gotta carry stuff.

Both cars can do a lot of things, but neither is a catch-all. No single car is.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by SocalBM

Who ever said they were the same? There is some cross over between the two and it entirely depends on how/why you're using your car. 911 is a fine daily for someone who doesn't have kids, or crap roads, any number of other reasons. M2 is a great fun car if you also want or need it to be versatile and you gotta carry stuff.

Both cars can do a lot of things, but neither is a catch-all. No single car is.

If you have to ask that question you surely don't pay attention. Whether it's implied or explicit, the suggestions and assertions are all over this forum.

[AmuroRay]

Only BMW owners argue that a 911 is not a daily when they sell more of them than BMW sells M2s. The M2 is a good car for what it is, but it’s not a bargin, and it’s not on the same level as a 911 - no one outside of this forum believes it, and I suspect the people who are on this forum don’t either.

And i had to laugh about cheap interior comments - BMW is the king of cheap interiors and cost cuts. Enjoy the M2, and to a lesser extent the Transformer G series M2.

[sk8funk]

And the Porsche forum is back again. I couldn't care less about Porsche and it's not because i just can't afford it but i have had 0 interest in them ever. Just saying