[N & M]

Never ceases to amaze me the negativity brigade in this forum.

All car manufacturers today have product quality issues due to market pressures to put new cars and tech into the market competitive prices.

The result will almost surely be product quality issues that lead to recalls.

We experience this in everything we buy from food to mobile phones and even jogging shoes yet it is crazy how some people go beyond seeking compensation and fair solution to the need to personalize thier product failure to a crusade against the great evil.

[WI_Rob]

Originally Posted by Eagle1oh7

Shit, now if they could do a recall on the A/C system, my E90 is blowing cool air on the passenger side while the driver side only gets ambient temp air. It's probably the same schrader valve too.

Or was it the Fetzer Valve???

[CommanderChange]

Originally Posted by AWDBooSTIn90

Im joking.. How hard is it for BMW to make a damn reliable water pump. They have heat circulator pumps in houses that last 20 years and the only reason people replace them usually is because of a small leak or a noisy pump...

BMW get your shit together... DAMN!!!

The issue here is the supplier supplying these parts... but of course at the end of the day, it's a component in a BMW.

[adc]

Originally Posted by ORIGIN M.

That's fucking awesome...

Maybe if they bought them from Honda they'd have no issues in the first place.

What, Honda has electric auxiliary water pumps on their twin turbo V8’s and V12’s? How cool is that, no pun intended.

[Joebie]

Originally Posted by TRACK M4STER

You know this is a supplier issue, right? Like most car manufacturers BMW doesn't build its own water pumps. Just like the Takata airbag debacle affecting BMW, Honda, Toyota, Chrysler and Ferrari vehicles.

Yeah, true, but I'm a mechanical engineer and if I picked a supplier who's parts lit the products I design on fire I don't think I'd be exactly blame-free!

[lonestar22]

BMW owns up to way more problems then other manufacturers so you can give them that.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by N & M

Never ceases to amaze me the negativity brigade in this forum.

All car manufacturers today have product quality issues due to market pressures to put new cars and tech into the market competitive prices.

The result will almost surely be product quality issues that lead to recalls.

We experience this in everything we buy from food to mobile phones and even jogging shoes yet it is crazy how some people go beyond seeking compensation and fair solution to the need to personalize thier product failure to a crusade against the great evil.

Agree and if these cars were $20k owners probably wouldn't care.

These recalls just contribute to to the myth of german engineering. The engineering doesn't live up to the price point.

[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by N & M

Never ceases to amaze me the negativity brigade in this forum.

All car manufacturers today have product quality issues due to market pressures to put new cars and tech into the market competitive prices.

Agreed.

Of course i understand when today's snowflakes want a perfect world filled with perfect things that always work perfectly as they desire. i mean, don't we all intrinsically know just how very important they are?

Originally Posted by F32Fleet

Agree and if these cars were $20k owners probably wouldn't care.

These recalls just contribute to to the myth of german engineering. The engineering doesn't live up to the price point.

Funny how $250k Ferrari cars have recalls. You'd think at that price point.... Or how about the melting headers on the Ferrari a few years back?

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Recalls happen, these cars are made of MANY parts. Of course everyone here not happy can feel free to start their own automotive company. Lamborghini did just that.

[Eagle1oh7]

Originally Posted by WI_Rob

Or was it the Fetzer Valve???

I gotta look at the service ticket from 5 years ago when I had it repaired under warranty. I think the whole jobs without warranty would have cost around $1200 I believe. I'm going to look at the service manual to see how complex it is.

[Delta0311]

Originally Posted by kevinlevrone

Actually it was around 60k miles or 100k kilometers.

My failed at 27K miles on my 335i and I don't push the car hard. I ran like at tank on my old 328 though, never had a water pump issue.

There were some on here who had theirs failed at under 20k.

[MilehighM3]

Originally Posted by Eagle1oh7

No, this has nothing to do with the blower motor. Like I said, air comes out, just that on my side it's not cold.

It's because your refrigerant charge is low. It's an E9x, so most likely it's a leaking evaporator. Getting it serviced will prolong the inevitable replacement, which is not cheap.
I'm not sure how this has any related to the thread though.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Agreed.

Of course i understand when today's snowflakes want a perfect world filled with perfect things that always work perfectly as they desire. i mean, don't we all intrinsically know just how very important they are?

Funny how $250k Ferrari cars have recalls. You'd think at that price point.... Or how about the melting headers on the Ferrari a few years back?

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Recalls happen, these cars are made of MANY parts. Of course everyone here not happy can feel free to start their own automotive company. Lamborghini did just that.

I remember back in late 90's - early 2000's when a faulty fan switch would cause some bmw's to catch fire.

[raysspl]

Yikes!!!

[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by F32Fleet

I remember back in late 90's - early 2000's when a faulty fan switch would cause some bmw's to catch fire.

Just don't get into a rear-end accident with this one

[jimmymcd3]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Pffft that's not as bad as the VW Group's Bentley brand, and Bentley does not recall or seem to give a $h*t about their customers (even those who have had TWO Bentley cars).

Buy a Bentley GTC and you had better garage it. In fact don't even drive it during hot weather! Hot weather could mean the rear window will simply fall out of the convertible top. Hot weather may also cause an air hose to melt above the transmission, a common issue, and that is a $5000 engine-out fix (new top to fix glass window is only $17,000).

No recalls tho from Bentley.

BMW offers recalls so i'd be happy. The VW Group's Bentley brand, they just don't seem to care at all.

If that is true about the Bentleys and happened to one of your cars, we'll bring a lawsuit for you. That is a plain defect that we'll make them fix and get you taken care of, too. VW is dirty. Email me: tutorhelp07@gmail.com.

Jim

[shaginwagon13]

You guys think you get screwed? lol

BMW NA issues some recalls to the US that they don't even extend or honor up here in Canada. Legitimately same car models and for the same years.... but the recalls isn't extended.

For example that awesome turbo recall. Ya we all had to pay out-of pocket up here if we wanted those lemons replaced. That makes zero sense.

These water pumps have been failing for YEARS now. I am onto my third water pump; the last one lasted me 10,000 km before it failed.

[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by jimmymcd3

If that is true about the Bentleys and happened to one of your cars, we'll bring a lawsuit for you.
Jim

Class action would be best. Post at 6Speed Bentley board as quite a few of us...

www.6speedonline.com/forums/bentley-42/

[gary88]

I wish they'd recall mine too so I don't have to replace it before it fails

[Lucky1]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Agreed.

Of course i understand when today's snowflakes want a perfect world filled with perfect things that always work perfectly as they desire. i mean, don't we all intrinsically know just how very important they are?

Funny how $250k Ferrari cars have recalls. You'd think at that price point.... Or how about the melting headers on the Ferrari a few years back?

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Recalls happen, these cars are made of MANY parts. Of course everyone here not happy can feel free to start their own automotive company. Lamborghini did just that.

Negativity? Lol. My neighbour's house was gutted out because of a car fire AND he parked in the driveway as per BMW's suggestions in this case (car in question was not a BMW though). I get to stare at what the result of that looks like every day. Five months later he's still living in a motel waiting for the insurance company to sort it out and not a single board has been removed from the remains to start the rebuild. So yeah, I would prefer my consumer purchases don't catch fire. But you're right, I'm just being negative. And a snowflake (we melt faster in fire, y'know).

[Ackrite]

Originally Posted by WI_Rob

Or was it the Fetzer Valve???

Come on! Everything's ball bearings these days!

[Giggs11]

Guess I dodge the bullet 2013 650xdrive coupe !!!

[WI_Rob]

Originally Posted by Ackrite

Come on! Everything's ball bearings these days!

Finally... someone caught the Fletch reference!!!