[lemetier]

Originally Posted by deceptiv-cs

I think all the G series tech will inevitably make it heavier

What if it doesn't?

[ellipsis212]

Video is worth it for AMG 1 sighting at 3:20 ish

[dmboone25]

Interesting...it doesn't look particularly quick here.

Really hoping it's not single headlights too, but perhaps that ship has sailed.

[BMWRL]

Originally Posted by ellipsis212

Video is worth it for AMG 1 sighting at 3:20 ish

It sounds and looks like a hippo

[Artemis]

Abnormal amount of exhaust smoke exiting the G80 M3 test mule "M CI 1379":
see sections 03:07-03:12 and 05:36-05:40 of the video.

[Kevin_The_Clean1]

This latest G87 M2 video that was posted today looks promising. Car look well controlled and had lots of composure at the limit. Simply hope it looks just as good as it performs. If so, I'll gladly cancel my G80 M3 AWD order build.

Hey BMW... Please don't mess up the front end of this new M2 BMW. Hope you learned your lesson with the WAY out of proportion buck tooth grills of the current M3.

[BMWGirlFL]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Abnormal amount of exhaust smoke exiting the G80 M3 test mule "M CI 1379":
see sections 03:07-03:12 and 05:36-05:40 of the video.

What might that suggest?

[BMWGirlFL]

[buckybadger]

Front fenders have a weird design and look bloated. Doesn't seem to have the wide rear fenders exposed. Seems kinda squarish design and not hunkered down like the current M2.

[mslam02]

Originally Posted by Germanauto

Very legitimate concerns but what will be the alternative(s) to this car? There's really just the Boxster/Cayman and Supra. The Porsche twins are absurdly overpriced and the Supra has it's downsides as well.

I think the G20 chassis is near-excellent so I'm confident BMW will nail the 2-series as well.

Other than those you mention, there is also the upcoming nissan Z: ~400hp twin turbo RWD + manual

And the Lotus Emira: >420hp mid-engine RWD manual (though likely pricey - seems it will compete in 718 and 911 price range) more details/proto-type reveal coming beginning of July

All mentioned are pretty much in the running for my next car. if the new M2 is anything like a combination of the drivers car/fun factor of the current gen, and the increased composure of the new m3/m4 (without gaining weight) they can take my money

[therealm3]

Has anyone else noticed the trend of more wheel gap on the newer m cars? I like a little bit of lowering on my cars but with how much I see here it's gonna be full coil overs if I want any hope of a decent ride afterwards. I guess like a lot of things the days of simple spring swap for 3/4-1" drop are gone. Maybe m will make a set of performance coil overs like they did with the f87?

[stefan]

The reduced rear end camo shows a trunk line that looks very similar to the Supra's. Not a terrible thing but probably fits better in the Supra with its more Japanese design language. Then again BMW doesn't really have a classically German design language anymore. Maybe it will all come together.

[Game]

Still loving the way this thing looks and sits.

[Germanauto]

Originally Posted by mslam02

Other than those you mention, there is also the upcoming nissan Z: ~400hp twin turbo RWD + manual

And the Lotus Emira: >420hp mid-engine RWD manual (though likely pricey - seems it will compete in 718 and 911 price range) more details/proto-type reveal coming beginning of July

All mentioned are pretty much in the running for my next car. if the new M2 is anything like a combination of the drivers car/fun factor of the current gen, and the increased composure of the new m3/m4 (without gaining weight) they can take my money

The new Z does indeed look compelling. But call me spoiled, there is something unattractive about the idea of Nissan ownership experience. That company has a lot of shit to figure out. I actually view the BMW-ness of the Supra as a plus because I'd feel I'm essentially getting a BMW with possibly improved reliability.

Lotus is a fringe brand. It would take a real leap of faith to actually make such a purchase happen.

[gemini.m3]

Originally Posted by lemetier

What if it doesn't?

Then it'll probably be the last decent car BMW makes before the ICE era comes to an end

[buckybadger]

It will be mostly hybrid or have some electrical assist.

[phantom7835]

Originally Posted by lemetier

What if it doesn't?

Show me a time where a new generation was lighter than the previous generation

ND vs NC miata doesn't count

[phantom7835]

Originally Posted by buckybadger

It will be mostly hybrid or have some electrical assist.

what other G series Ms are hybrid?

Oh right, none of them

[bioman]

Originally Posted by phantom7835

Show me a time where a new generation was lighter than the previous generation

ND vs NC miata doesn't count

F80 m vs E90 m.

[Kevin_The_Clean1]

Originally Posted by Game

Still loving the way this thing looks and sits.

Same here. Although BMW won't actually do it, I really wish BMW would pair the S58 with the DCT on this. One last hurrah for the awesome ICE & the last M2 that's truly engaging in every sense of the word.

One can only hope right.... ?

[lemetier]

Originally Posted by phantom7835

Show me a time where a new generation was lighter than the previous generation

ND vs NC miata doesn't count

F30 less than E90, G29 lighter than E89, Range Rover L405 was 900lb lighter than the L322. That's 3 just off the top of my head.

[CarJunkie]

Originally Posted by Kevin_The_Clean1

Same here. Although BMW won't actually do it, I really wish BMW would pair the S58 with the DCT on this. One last hurrah for the awesome ICE & the last M2 that's truly engaging in every sense of the word.

One can only hope right.... ?

Wont happen. DCT is done.