[Rx-7ames]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

Yes, there has been. Rx-7ames has previously supplied that info.

I can't stop wondering why so many people keep promoting the production delay theory.

[Rx-7ames]

Originally Posted by d3sign3r

I haven't seen any proof production has began for US orders. Sure there are allocations, but actual production?

Every allocation is either in production or scheduled for production next month.

[DSTR]

Originally Posted by Rx-7ames

I can't stop wondering why so many people keep promoting the production delay theory.

They read the 'internet' and feel like they are experts. Its not just sleeping at the Holiday Inn Express ya know!

[02M3ForMe]

Not sure how many of the 170 configurable allocations are in 150 production, but even if it's all of them, that seems like a small number for an important launch. These cars will arrive minimum 1 month after launch, and at least half of dealerships will see their first non-HEA units hit their lots in June or later.

It's up to you to determine whether sending ~20% of the usual customer-configurable launch supply somewhat on time means there was no delay.

[DSTR]

Originally Posted by 02M3ForMe

Not sure how many of the 170 configurable allocations are in 150 production, but even if it's all of them, that seems like a small number for an important launch. These cars will arrive minimum 1 month after launch, and at least half of dealerships will see their first non-HEA units hit their lots in June or later.

It's up to you to determine whether sending ~20% of the usual customer-configurable launch supply somewhat on time means there was no delay.

Plus the rest of the world. Its a world launch. Not sensing any major issues for the world outside of the US. My dealer HEA car is on its way and he has 4 open allocations. My order is now moved up 3 weeks from mid May to April. I will have my car in June it appears. Quite pleased and I ordered in Oct.

Im not the only order that has been moved to an earlier production time-frame.

Bad launch? See Lotus Emira lol.

[T_U_D]

FYI for those of you that are new to the M world, M production is generally much lower than non-M production. BMW is not planning to pump these things out.

Furthermore, low supply and high demand has become a situation that many automotive manufacturers and their dealers have thoroughly enjoyed. Go spend a good half an hour reading through subscription-based Automotive News if one desires any proof.

Edit, Also keep in mind that SLP produces the G20 and G42 models as well and up until very recently they operate on one production shift.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by DSTR

They read the 'internet' and feel like they are experts. Its not just sleeping at the Holiday Inn Express ya know!

Damn...I guess I should cancel my reaervation for tonight.

[02M3ForMe]

Originally Posted by DSTR

Plus the rest of the world. Its a world launch. Not sensing any major issues for the world outside of the US. My dealer HEA car is on its way and he has 4 open allocations. My order is now moved up 3 weeks from mid May to April. I will have my car in June it appears. Quite pleased and I ordered in Oct.

Im not the only order that has been moved to an earlier production time-frame.

Bad launch? See Lotus Emira lol.

The delay talk has always centered around the US. HEAs were always on time everywhere, including the US.

[Rx-7ames]

Originally Posted by 02M3ForMe

Not sure how many of the 170 configurable allocations are in 150 production, but even if it's all of them, that seems like a small number for an important launch. These cars will arrive minimum 1 month after launch, and at least half of dealerships will see their first non-HEA units hit their lots in June or later.

It's up to you to determine whether sending ~20% of the usual customer-configurable launch supply somewhat on time means there was no delay.

Over 40 allocations are in production. The remaining allocations will go into production next month.

Speaking of small numbers is completely subjective, but M cars are always produced in smaller numbers, and the M2 will be among the smallest number of M cars produced. I imagine it will be similar to F87 production numbers. Those were pretty small.

What is the "usual customer-configurable launch supply" and why is that an indication of a delay? BMW will have over 350 HEAs delivered to their US dealerships before the launch date. That seems pretty good to me, and can't be considered a delay by any metric. Did people really think their custom ordered M2 would be at the dealer by launch? That would be unusual.

[Kingsingh15]

Originally Posted by Rx-7ames

Over 40 allocations are in production. The remaining allocations will go into production next month.

Speaking of small numbers is completely subjective, but M cars are always produced in smaller numbers, and the M2 will be among the smallest number of M cars produced. I imagine it will be similar to F87 production numbers. Those were pretty small.

What is the "usual customer-configurable launch supply" and why is that an indication of a delay? BMW will have over 350 HEAs delivered to their US dealerships before the launch date. That seems pretty good to me, and can't be considered a delay by any metric. Did people really think their custom ordered M2 would be at the dealer by launch? That would be unusual.

Will the hea models get there right around April 8? Or should start here now

[eshney]

Originally Posted by d3sign3r

I haven't seen any proof production has began for US orders. Sure there are allocations, but actual production?

I got scheduled for production last week

[mtoosexy]

Originally Posted by Evinrude1975

I had not so great experience with them.. BMW and VW.

I will let you know how my experience goes

[02M3ForMe]

Originally Posted by Rx-7ames

Over 40 allocations are in production. The remaining allocations will go into production next month.

Speaking of small numbers is completely subjective, but M cars are always produced in smaller numbers, and the M2 will be among the smallest number of M cars produced. I imagine it will be similar to F87 production numbers. Those were pretty small.

What is the "usual customer-configurable launch supply" and why is that an indication of a delay? BMW will have over 350 HEAs delivered to their US dealerships before the launch date. That seems pretty good to me, and can't be considered a delay by any metric. Did people really think their custom ordered M2 would be at the dealer by launch? That would be unusual.

Anecdotally, my customer-configurable launch G82 was produced 1.5 months before launch (2/4/21) and delivered approximately 2 weeks after the launch date (4/1/21), and I definitely wasn’t the first non-HEA in the U.S. by any stretch. Unfortunately, the BMW store personnel on the forums at the time were less transparent than you’ve been (thank you, BTW!), so it’s hard to go back and see how many were available.

One might be able to dig into whatever database is used for VIN decoding and figure out a precise number.

40 non-HEA M2s in 150 prod status means only 1/10th of US dealers have any hope of replicating my G82 launch timeline for their G87 launch customers. In my anecdotal case, I’m #1 at my store for the G87 and we haven’t yet gotten our prod number yet, so I’m at least 2 months out from April 8th at the minimum assuming one comes in within the next monthly drop (1-2 weeks from now).

It’s fine; I’m sticking with mine despite making other plans. As a repeat launch M buyer, this looks like a delay to me, though I understand that it won’t to those fortunate 40.

[WBRacing]

Has anyone seen any movement from the US ports? Wondering if they are going to hold them all there until the first week of April so they don't hit the dealerships much before the 8th.
I have a HEA unit that I am hoping the dealership can have PPF done on before the 8th so its ready to go.

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by WBRacing

Has anyone seen any movement from the US ports? Wondering if they are going to hold them all there until the first week of April so they don't hit the dealerships much before the 8th.
I have a HEA unit that I am hoping the dealership can have PPF done on before the 8th so its ready to go.

As of this morning our HEA unit is still sitting idle at the VPC.

[zero21]

Mine will have Indiana Jones-type cobwebs by the time it arrives to the dealer!

Do the cars ship with gas in them or completely empty of oils and fuel? How long will it have been since the engine ran or battery charged? I mean it's almost like they're costing themselves money waiting to deliver it to the dealer where at least they can charge it up and make sure it's good...

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by zero21

Mine will have Indiana Jones-type cobwebs by the time it arrives to the dealer!

Do the cars ship with gas in them or completely empty of oils and fuel? How long will it have been since the engine ran or battery charged? I mean it's almost like they're costing themselves money waiting to deliver it to the dealer where at least they can charge it up and make sure it's good...

They have all the necessary fluids as they are driven onto a train to be transported to the port, and then driven on and off the ship. How else do you think they get moved around?

Minimum fuel is applied at the end of assembly. A full tank is added during the PDI process at your dealership.

[DSTR]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

They have all the necessary fluids as they are driven onto a train to be transported to the port, and then driven on and off the ship. How else do you think they get moved around?

Minimum fuel is applied at the end of assembly. A full tank is added during the PDI process at your dealership.

Oh.......hmmm - I was told by a good friends best friends uncle and cousin from Dublin whos in New York visiting his wife's cousin and uncle the cars are shipped with no wheels either lol 4 temporary spares are used for the journey

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by DSTR

Oh.......hmmm - I was told by a good friends best friends uncle and cousin from Dublin whos in New York visiting his wife's cousin and uncle the cars are shipped with no wheels either lol 4 temporary spares are used for the journey

Did they see Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night too?

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

Did they see Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night too?

Was just about to reply exactly as you did.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

They have all the necessary fluids as they are driven onto a train to be transported to the port, and then driven on and off the ship. How else do you think they get moved around?

Minimum fuel is applied at the end of assembly. A full tank is added during the PDI process at your dealership.

Well I'll be...I figured the cars were loaded during practice for the world's strongest man competition.

[zero21]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

They have all the necessary fluids as they are driven onto a train to be transported to the port, and then driven on and off the ship. How else do you think they get moved around?

Minimum fuel is applied at the end of assembly. A full tank is added during the PDI process at your dealership.

I saw on discovery years ago something about forklifts. How do they get to a dealer with zero miles on the clock?