[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Geely’s New EV Battery Claims To Last A Million Km And Offer Better Fire Protection
July 2, 2024
The new battery can even retain 90.54% of its capacity in temperatures below -30°C
The new battery is 40% shorter than a traditional blade battery.
Geely submerged it in salt water and even fired a bullet at the battery during testing.
The new cells can be charged 3,500 times.
Geely has unveiled a new lithium-iron-phosphate battery for EVs, which it says will be good for driving 1 million kilometers (a little over 620,000 miles) and last as long as 50 years. It also charges quicker, works better in cold environments, and can withstand some serious abuse.
The Chinese automaker says that the battery can be charged 3,500 times, equivalent to 1 million kilometers of driving, all with “minimal impact to battery range.”
Tests conducted with short- and long-blade batteries with the same capacity reveal the short-form pack charges quicker. Whereas it took the long-blade battery 26 minutes to charge from 10-80%, the new short-blade battery needed just 17 minutes and 4 seconds.
https://www.carscoops.com/2024/07/ge...re-protection/

Wishful thinking, probably take that with a pinch of salt.

[M5Rick]

BMW EV production is apparently on hold? or shutting down maybe with cancelled battery orders as it waits for new gen Chinese batteries, yup you heard that right, throwing a dice thinking that they will be quicker to charge and last longer with no time date as to when they will be available and the stringent safety processes they have to go through to be acceptable for the euro market.

[Car-Addicted]

BMW i3 Battery Replacement Cost in 2023 – All Details Covered
Here are the typical price ranges:
Full Battery Replacement – $5,000 to $7,000+ – The out-of-pocket cost for a brand new replacement i3 battery pack ranges from about $5,000 on the low end to over $7,000+ depending on the model year and specific battery. Labor costs will also need to be added.
Refurbished Battery – $3,000 to $5,000 – Opting for a professionally refurbished and certified pre-owned BMW i3 battery can save thousands compared to new. Expect to pay $3,000 to $5,000 for a refurbished option.
Battery Module Replacement – $500 to $1,000 – In some cases, only one or two battery modules may need replacement instead of the entire pack. Module repair costs are much lower, typically between $500 to $1,000 including parts and labor.
Model Year – Later model year BMW i3’s typically have larger battery capacities than earlier years. The cost difference between replacing a 2015 battery versus a 2019 can be $1,000+.
https://bmwinsights.com/bmw-i3-batte...lacement-cost/

I'm thinking BMW got the memo?
Still any one buying a used EV has questionable intelligence. Nothing like a car payment and a $7000.00 unexpected repair bill.

[strohw]

My wife picked out an EV6 about 4 weeks ago and she told me yesterday it's her most favorite car she's had. I was the one who pushed her into test driving it, as an EV would fit her low mileage driving habits well, and the incentives were really good in June.

She likes that's its quiet, smooth acceleration, it's fast when she needs it, and that it keeps her away from gas stations. She has a bad habit of going in and buying stuff when she stops for gas. There are various other features she really likes, but they're attributed to going up a price point from her last vehicle and not that it's an EV.

I bought her a 32A charger, installed the plug myself, and all of it cost about $500. The 8/3 wire was $200 of that.

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

With looks like that AWA EV PU there's no wonder at that.
I wouldn't even have one of those for free but anyone offering a new M5 hybrid, any colour without the carbon roof then I'll take it off their hands

Me too. Happy to see BMW keeps the 8 cylinders in the new M5.

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Someone said ''EV's are a great way of turning £ 55000 to NET ZERO''

No need for any magical touch. Everything is automated

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

I'm just saying:

That beaver looks really cute. But not the BMW EV with the big tooth. They are the ugliest cars I ever come across. They don't need the extra cooling like the M cars. So WTF with the big Tooth on those EV ???

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

So, five (5) 40-minute recharge resting times so the drivers can get a snack, refresh, use the facilities, and walk their dogs? Add in any rain delays and that makes for a long race.

More advertisement time for TV!

You better turn up the volume on your TV as you will not able to hear anything coming out from the cars

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Maserati Now Offers A Fully Electric Powerboat
The Maserati Tridente is a luxury powerboat with a fully electric powertrain.
The 34-foot vessel has a large sundeck with room for 10 people and a small cabin.
The zero-emission powertrain makes 592 hp (441 kW / 600 PS), allowing a top speed of 40 knots (46 mph).
https://www.carscoops.com/2024/07/ma...ric-powerboat/

That's a hard pass for me.

Holly crap, how can the boats get recharge in the middle of the ocean. I guess if they can afford such luxury powerboat, they can afford to have helicopter to pick them up in the middle of the ocean.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by strohw

She has a bad habit of going in and buying stuff when she stops for gas.

You better hope she doesn't use public charging station. You can buy a whole lot of stuff in a couple hours.

Seriously, glad it's working out for you.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by eugenebmw

That beaver looks really cute. But not the BMW EV with the big tooth. They are the ugliest cars I ever come across.

[Car-Addicted]

I know you're all shocked!
Biofuel’s Dirty Secret: Toxic Chemicals Threatening Communities Under the Name of Green
The study was produced by the Environmental Integrity Project, a nonprofit based in Washington, D.C. It finds that the total quantity of air pollutants released by the nation’s biofuel refineries adds up to 12.9 million pounds annually, close to the 14.5 million pounds emitted by traditional oil refineries.
One of the emitted pollutants is formaldehyde, a toxic compound used, among other things, to prevent corpses from decaying. It’s also a widely recognized carcinogen, especially when emitted in gaseous form.
The nation’s biofuel plants reported more than 235,000 pounds of formaldehyde emissions in 2022, more than three times the amount released by petroleum refineries.
Minnesota’s ethanol refineries also produced the equivalent of 2 million metric tons of carbon dioxide, and nearly 3 million tons of other regulated air pollutants including lead, sulfur dioxide, carbon monoxide, nitrogen oxides and particulate matter.
The report faults the EPA for subjecting ethanol plants to less stringent emission standards than regular oil refineries. The authors also call on policymakers to eliminate the mandates and subsidies for ethanol production that prop up the industry.
https://www.bluestemprairie.com/blue...udy-finds.html

[eliphil]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

I know you're all shocked!
Biofuel’s Dirty Secret: Toxic Chemicals Threatening Communities Under the Name of Green
The study was produced by the Environmental Integrity Project, a nonprofit based in Washington, D.C. It finds that the total quantity of air pollutants released by the nation’s biofuel refineries adds up to 12.9 million pounds annually, close to the 14.5 million pounds emitted by traditional oil refineries.
One of the emitted pollutants is formaldehyde, a toxic compound used, among other things, to prevent corpses from decaying. It’s also a widely recognized carcinogen, especially when emitted in gaseous form.
The nation’s biofuel plants reported more than 235,000 pounds of formaldehyde emissions in 2022, more than three times the amount released by petroleum refineries.
Minnesota’s ethanol refineries also produced the equivalent of 2 million metric tons of carbon dioxide, and nearly 3 million tons of other regulated air pollutants including lead, sulfur dioxide, carbon monoxide, nitrogen oxides and particulate matter.
The report faults the EPA for subjecting ethanol plants to less stringent emission standards than regular oil refineries. The authors also call on policymakers to eliminate the mandates and subsidies for ethanol production that prop up the industry.
https://www.bluestemprairie.com/blue...udy-finds.html

Unbelievable, I had read that California is struggling to recycle all the batteries and solar panels and that multiple studies concluded that EVs are a net negative vs petroleum. Leave it to the green folks to demand changes that have not been properly thought out over the long term.

[Car-Addicted]

The most common type of EV battery is a growing source of 'forever chemical' pollution, scientists say
July 8, 2024
Scientists have uncovered a new source of hazardous "forever chemical" pollution: the rechargeable lithium-ion batteries found in most electric vehicles.
Some lithium-ion battery technologies use a class of PFAS chemicals, or per-and polyfluoroalkyl substances, that helps make batteries less flammable and conduct electricity. Scientists found high levels of these PFAS in air, water, snow, soil, and sediment samples near plants that make those chemicals in the US, Belgium, and France, according to a peer-reviewed study in the journal Nature Communications.
PFAS are known as "forever chemicals" because they build up quickly in the environment, people, and animals and don't break down for thousands of years. They've been linked to a host of health conditions, including liver damage, high cholesterol, low birth weights, and chronic kidney disease.

The study said only about 5% of lithium-ion batteries are recycled, and by 2040, there could be some 8 million tons of lithium-ion battery waste.
3M has manufactured PFAS for decades and last year agreed to a $10 billion settlement with US cities and towns over their claims that the company contaminated drinking water with forever chemicals. 3M said it will exit all PFAS manufacturing by the end of 2025.

The company's settlement followed another agreement by Chemours, DuPont and Corteva to pay $1.19 billion to help resolve thousands of lawsuits.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/singapore...002443893.html

The more we save the planet the more we are killing the inhabitants of the planet! I leave you to consider if this is intentional or just stupidity.

[Ugly Kar]

Sales so bad they have to lie about it?

Hyundai Accused Of Faking EV Sales Data: Lawsuit

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news...d=BingNewsSerp

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by Ugly Kar

Sales so bad they have to lie about it?
Hyundai Accused Of Faking EV Sales Data: Lawsuit

Amazing: I wonder if the SEC will be interested in this?
Hyundai Motor Company (HYMTF)

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

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The likeness is striking.

[Car-Addicted]

Another day another toasty EV

Tesla bursts into flames at EV charging station in Upper Allen
July 10th 2024
CUMBERLAND COUNTY, Pa. (WHP) — A call for a car fire in Upper Allen turned out to be a much more difficult blaze to put out, after officials determined the fire happened at an EV station.
The fire happened at the Upper Allen Sheetz at around 5:50 p.m. Monday night, according to Upper Allen Fire Department. When they arrived on scene, fire crews started battling the flames and later were able to douse the car's battery after most of the fire was put out.



The fire happened at the Upper Allen Sheetz at around 5:50 p.m. Monday night, according to Upper Allen Fire Department.
When they arrived on scene, fire crews started battling the flames and later were able to douse the car's battery after most of the fire was put out.
Upper Allen later released a statement about the incident
"UAFD would like to extend our sincere gratitude to all the companies that came out to assist us with this incident. These are not easy fires to put out and the hazmat concerns they pose are difficult to mitigate."

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Another day another toasty EV

Tesla bursts into flames at EV charging station in Upper Allen
July 10th 2024
CUMBERLAND COUNTY, Pa. (WHP) — A call for a car fire in Upper Allen turned out to be a much more difficult blaze to put out, after officials determined the fire happened at an EV station.
The fire happened at the Upper Allen Sheetz at around 5:50 p.m. Monday night, according to Upper Allen Fire Department. When they arrived on scene, fire crews started battling the flames and later were able to douse the car's battery after most of the fire was put out.



The fire happened at the Upper Allen Sheetz at around 5:50 p.m. Monday night, according to Upper Allen Fire Department.
When they arrived on scene, fire crews started battling the flames and later were able to douse the car's battery after most of the fire was put out.
Upper Allen later released a statement about the incident
"UAFD would like to extend our sincere gratitude to all the companies that came out to assist us with this incident. These are not easy fires to put out and the hazmat concerns they pose are difficult to mitigate."

Something Bozo feigns fainting or has jet lag when confronted with that.

Meanwhile down at the ranch this is brewing

[Car-Addicted]

VW Weighs First-Ever Car Plant Closing in Europe to Cut Costs
Jul 10, 2024
Volkswagen AG will potentially shutter an Audi electric-vehicle factory in Belgium to save costs, in what would be a watershed moment for Europe’s biggest carmaker.
Carmakers have been grappling with poor EV sales, prompting a range of manufacturers including Mercedes-Benz Group AG to rethink plans. Key regions including Germany, Europe’s biggest auto market, have removed or cut incentives for EVs, raising the pressure on incumbents with new competitors like China’s BYD Co. moving in on their turf. Volkswagen’s strong union presence has complicated the company’s past restructuring efforts.
Audi’s management has been in discussions with the Belgian government about the future of its Brussels factory, which only makes the luxury Q8 e-tron model and derivatives. Closing it down is only one of several restructuring options, Volkswagen said.
Audi’s site near Brussels employs some 3,000 people and has been making the Q8 e-tron since 2022. The Deutsche Bank analysts estimated that severance packages alone would amount to a “sizable” triple-digit-million-euro amount.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/vw-cu...060128854.html

If the EU fails to keep CCP funded Chinese car companies from dumping their product in the EU, this will not be the first plant closing and not the first pink slips.

[eugenebmw]

Porsche Feeling The Heat From EV Decline

https://carbuzz.com/porsche-taycan-p...-down-germany/

[Car-Addicted]

Dumb and Dumber

BYD dodges EU tariffs with $1 billion factory deal in Turkey
To counteract what the European Commission sees as unfair competition supported by China, Brussels has imposed additional duties on numerous products, reducing the profitability of their purchase. This is the case, for example, with electric cars (more on this later).
The Chinese, targeted by these additional tariffs, bypassed the charges by producing cars locally. That’s why one electric car factory is being built in Hungary (with another one planned), and soon also in Turkey.
The "Financial Times" reports that Turkey is part of the EU customs union, meaning vehicles can be exported to the community without additional duties. The newspaper adds that the factory will be able to produce 150,000 vehicles annually and is planned to start operations by the end of 2026. The plant will create about 5,000 jobs.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news...c7fdcaaf&ei=12

Just reminding you that this week is still slap a politician week.