[Sethhboii]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

100% false! I could name a hand full of M certified centers within our region that have yet to receive a modifiable allocation. Not one.

TUD, that makes me feel better tbh

[zero21]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

100% false! I could name a hand full of M certified centers within our region that have yet to receive a modifiable allocation. Not one.

What would be the reason for not having some equitable distribution?

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by zero21

What would be the reason for not having some equitable distribution?

This is solely my personal opinion as well as for a few select counterparts, favoritism. We have no actual proof, but it certainly comes across that way. Certain centers allegedly check all the right boxes for corporate and they are awarded for that and understandably so. I cannot argue with that. Realistically there is no even distribution of allocations. There never has been with any automotive manufacturer.

[Albator_IIII]

Originally Posted by zero21

What would be the reason for not having some equitable distribution?

Originally Posted by T_U_D

My personal opinion as well as for a few select counterparts, favoritism. We have no actual proof, but it certainly comes across that way.

My guess would be depending on multiple variables including but not limited to sales volume, dealer reputation, and working relationship between dealer and BMWNA (following recommended rules and SOPs from corporate).

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by Albator_IIII

My guess would be depending on multiple variables including but not limited to sales volume, dealer reputation, and working relationship between dealer and BMWNA (following recommended rules and SOPs from corporate).

See my edited post above. Vague, but you somewhat got the gist.

[Albator_IIII]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

See my edited post above. Vague, but you somewhat got the gist.

Would be interesting to peek at BMWNA's nice and naughty list of dealers.

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by Albator_IIII

Would be interesting to peek at BMWNA's nice and naughty list of dealers.

The Center of Excellence list is a fairly good representation of that.

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/usa/a...ips-in-the-u-s

[Albator_IIII]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

The Center of Excellence list is a fairly good representation of that.

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/usa/a...ips-in-the-u-s

It is a start as it lets us see the top dealers. Would be cool (never gonna happen of course) to see a full ranked list.

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by Albator_IIII

It is a start as it lets us see the top dealers. Would be cool (never gonna happen of course) to see a full ranked list.

OT, but Porsche does something very similar with their annual Premier Dealer list.

Program definition: The Porsche Premier Dealer Program identifies the top 25 Porsche Dealers in the United States. It recognizes and rewards those Porsche Dealerships that best embrace the ‘Porsche Business Model’ – achieving the highest performance among their peers in Brand utilization, product representation and the development of key ‘Porsche business drivers’; and in doing so, succeed as independent entrepreneurs who routinely exceed the expectations of their Porsche customers.

The corporate reward and recognition http://premierdealerexperience2022.com/index.html

[Rx-7ames]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

This is solely my personal opinion as well as for a few select counterparts, favoritism. We have no actual proof, but it certainly comes across that way. Certain centers allegedly check all the right boxes for corporate and they are awarded for that and understandably so. I cannot argue with that. Realistically there is no even distribution of allocations. There never has been with any automotive manufacturer.

This is why those surveys are so damned important! Well, one of the reasons.

[Rx-7ames]

Originally Posted by Rx-7ames

164 allocations dropped today!

Interestingly, 43 more allocations dropped since I provided this update.

[Sethhboii]

Originally Posted by Rx-7ames

Interestingly, 43 more allocations dropped since I provided this update.

Maybe I’ll hear something tomorrow, but I’ve decided to shut up after this post.

[rcouchh]

Originally Posted by zero21

Any chance you're not getting the truth?

If you're M certified dealer you got to be having one allocation by now.

M-certified really means nothing for a dealership. Even those are are M-certified will admit that. Certainly doesn't indicate anything about how many allocations they get. Allocations are pretty much all based on sales volume that the dealership does.

For example, a dealer within 5 miles of me is M-certified, and not a single salesperson in there even knows what a G80 or G87 is. No one on the floor knows jack shit about M-cars. Never have M cars in the showroom. Service dept is awful. It just means they have techs that take certification trainings specific to M cars.

Originally Posted by mtoosexy

Well, supposedly... I am NEXT. I am opting for the full ZJJ Carbon pckg, so the allocation next round/month(optimistically) may be perfect timing?

Nice, you've been able to spec JZZ for a bit though. My buddy got an allocation 3 weeks ago spec'd with ZJJ, and I just got my allocation with it spec'd also.

[JustinHEMI]

Originally Posted by rcouchh

M-certified really means nothing for a dealership. Even those are are M-certified will admit that. Certainly doesn't indicate anything about how many allocations they get. Allocations are pretty much all based on sales volume that the dealership does.

For example, a dealer within 5 miles of me is M-certified, and not a single salesperson in there even knows what a G80 or G87 is. No one on the floor knows jack shit about M-cars. Never have M cars in the showroom. It just means they have techs that take certification trainings specific to M cars.

Even if they are "M certified", that doesn't mean they won't put 75W-90 fluid in your F87 rear end at break in service.

[rcouchh]

Originally Posted by JustinHEMI

Even if they are "M certified", that doesn't mean they won't put 75W-90 fluid in your F87 rear end at break in service.

Exactly... in the end it really means jack shit. Most techs are still idiots regardless.

There are good and bad dealers ofc. My dealer in PA is one of the most mod-friendly and M-knowledgeable dealers in the US. They have a totally separate part of their service dept that services only M-cars and do amazing work. Most of their employees are big car enthusiasts.

Then there's another dealer by me that I mentioned, that is also M-certified. Last time I had my car there the tech pried my taillight out with a metal screwdriver and took 3 inches of paint off on the body line. Long story short they ended up repainting my entire bumper lol. It's safe to say he probably has never worked on an M-car, but of course touched mine!

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by rcouchh

M-certified really means nothing for a dealership. Even those are are M-certified will admit that. Certainly doesn't indicate anything about how many allocations they get. Allocations are pretty much all based on sales volume that the dealership does.

For example, a dealer within 5 miles of me is M-certified, and not a single salesperson in there even knows what a G80 or G87 is. No one on the floor knows jack shit about M-cars. Never have M cars in the showroom. Service dept is awful. It just means they have techs that take certification trainings specific to M cars.



Nice, you've been able to spec JZZ for a bit though. My buddy got an allocation 3 weeks ago spec'd with ZJJ, and I just got my allocation with it spec'd also.

You get your allocation based on position, not your spec. You dont get passed iver because you specced the full cf paxkage. If, and I say if, the full cf package isn't available at the time you get your allocation, it would just delay your production.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by rcouchh

Exactly... in the end it really means jack shit. Most techs are still idiots regardless.

There are good and bad dealers ofc. My dealer in PA is one of the most mod-friendly and M-knowledgeable dealers in the US. They have a totally separate part of their service dept that services only M-cars and do amazing work. Most of their employees are big car enthusiasts.

Then there's another dealer by me that I mentioned, that is also M-certified. Last time I had my car there the tech pried my taillight out with a metal screwdriver and took 3 inches of paint off on the body line. Long story short they ended up repainting my entire bumper lol. It's safe to say he probably has never worked on an M-car, but of course touched mine!

M car or not, why is he doing that to any BMW or any other car. Wonder if that was his one "get out of jail" f'up or if he works elsewhere now.

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by Rx-7ames

Interestingly, 43 more allocations dropped since I provided this update.

I had not noticed this. At least not yet. When did you make this discovery?

Originally Posted by Sethhboii

Maybe I’ll hear something tomorrow, but I’ve decided to shut up after this post.

Fingers crossed that you do!

Originally Posted by rcouchh

M-certified really means nothing for a dealership. Even those are are M-certified will admit that. Certainly doesn't indicate anything about how many allocations they get. Allocations are pretty much all based on sales volume that the dealership does.

We are M certified. The expense to become a M certified dealer and the training is not an inexpensive endeavor. Far more involved than just the M signage on the building and M certified printed on business cards. M allocations are stated to also improve. In a roundabout way it is almost guaranteed, but not so certain that it actually materializes.

Edit, FYI, at least ONE CA is supposed to be M certified. At least at our store.

[dominoM]

Originally Posted by Rx-7ames

Interestingly, 43 more allocations dropped since I provided this update.

That is interesting indeed. I will be staring at my phone all day tomorrow, ha ha. Well, seriously, I will be.

This has been a really good thread and tons of good perspectives from all of you. Thank you.

[LTJohn]

Just to add one gripe: (LOL)

It surprises me that BMW does not guarantee that every dealership in US gets at least one allotment.

I mean, should BMW be punishing customers because their dealer can't reach the yearly sales volume to justify an allotment? Seems like a quick way to frustrate/alienate customers.
Anyway, my griping is over, and hope to hear from my own dealer soon! LOL!

[atxs2m2]

I’ve had my deposit down for over a year. I’m the number 1 allocation at my dealership in austin. I just a call Friday that they just got their production number for me. Circumstances have changed for me and i cannot move forward with the car now. Is anyone interested in taking my spot?

[Rx-7ames]

Originally Posted by atxs2m2

I’ve had my deposit down for over a year. I’m the number 1 allocation at my dealership in austin. I just a call Friday that they just got their production number for me. Circumstances have changed for me and i cannot move forward with the car now. Is anyone interested in taking my spot?

I highly doubt that choice will be up to you. If it were my dealer and you backed out it would go to the next person in my order bank.