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      04-10-2023, 08:07 PM   #1013
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Safety crash a motorcycle and tell me how it goes!

If we want to build cars which gives us safety we get military tanks. If we want cars which brings more fun in driving we need lighter cars. If that’s compromises safety so be it. If i drive my motorcycle what kind of safety do i have?
It's clear that the G87 base is not for you. Consider checking out until the CS or CSL. Or move to Porsche as others have.
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      04-10-2023, 08:17 PM   #1014
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Bmw problem is making every new model bigger.

Put an E30 M3 next to a new M3 and you have the answer why it is so heavy. Even an M2 is bigger then an old e30 M3.

Bigger means everything will be bigger and thus heavier. From wheels/tires to brakes, interior parts, body panels etc.

I don’t get it.

You can buy an M8, M6, M5, M4, M3, M2

You have all sizes at your disposal. Why make an M2 as big as an older 3 or 5 series. If i wanted a bigger car i would buy an M4 or an even bigger m5.

I am 1 meter 89 and fit in an e30 M3 so no problem there.

Comparing an M5 and purchase option over the M2? Really, those are comparable in what way (othernthan being made by BMW)?
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      04-10-2023, 08:29 PM   #1015
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Not comparable but why make a new M2 almost as big as old M5.

If you wat a bigger M car you have choices enough at the Bmw dealer.
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      04-10-2023, 08:36 PM   #1016
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Ha ha, what an unrealistic design from a production perspective! No tyres, very little cooling inlet area such that it would overheat, mirrors that wouldn't come close to meeting regulations.

Styling is such a pesronal thing, I found the F22/F87 quite pleasant to look at but otherwise an anonymous design (having owned an F22 M240I), but anodyne overall. I wouldn't call the G87 pretty, but it is definitely more distinctive and aggressively styled, much like the Z3M clown shoe and Z4M were.
If by “aggressively styled” you mean in a more trans-swimmer sort of way 😂 The Z3M or Z4M is not a good comparison, that design was completely unique and still is in its own realm.
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      04-10-2023, 08:44 PM   #1017
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If by “aggressively styled” you mean in a more trans-swimmer sort of way 😂
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      04-10-2023, 08:47 PM   #1018
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If by “aggressively styled” you mean in a more trans-swimmer sort of way 😂 The Z3M or Z4M is not a good comparison, that design was completely unique and still is in its own realm.
Wow, and I thought you just had bad taste in cars. Turns out you are also a trash human being.
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      04-10-2023, 08:56 PM   #1019
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Safety crash a motorcycle and tell me how it goes!

If we want to build cars which gives us safety we get military tanks. If we want cars which brings more fun in driving we need lighter cars. If that’s compromises safety so be it. If i drive my motorcycle what kind of safety do i have?
None, that's why they're stupid and why I got rid of mine. They're simply a degree more immature when you have kids. At least now I don't have to worry about dipshits running red lights at every intersection.

Keep complaining though it'll get you super far in this debate against every single car company making cars safer/heavier.
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      04-10-2023, 09:09 PM   #1020
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I have watched this. In my opinion a pretty lame video based on other influencer's opinions with nothing new to bring to the table.
Precisely. Now that I own a car everyone is "reviewing" I'm starting to see how 70% of these types of videos are total bs.

They have spent zero time in the car. No one who drives this car can tell you it's not great. If they do, they're an asshole and a liar - pretty simple.

The car's capability exceeds 99% of drivers on the road, no matter how many accounts on Bimmerpost claim otherwise. If an auto version runs 1/4mi in under 12sec, stops from 60 in 100ft or less, and pulls over a G on the skid pad, it's offering supercar performance and utility for 65k OTD.

Name one other brand new car that does that.
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      04-10-2023, 09:12 PM   #1021
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Wow, and I thought you just had bad taste in cars. Turns out you are also a trash human being.
That’s a hateful statement, i hope you don’t mean it? My comment is about cars, let’s not get personal please.
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      04-10-2023, 09:12 PM   #1022
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Precisely. Now that I own a car everyone is "reviewing" I'm starting to see how 70% of these types of videos are total bs.

They have spent zero time in the car. No one who drives this car can tell you it's not great. If they do, they're an asshole and a liar - pretty simple.

The car's capability exceeds 99% of drivers on the road, no matter how many accounts on Bimmerpost claim otherwise. If an auto version runs 1/4mi in under 12sec, stops from 60 in 100ft or less, and pulls over a G on the skid pad, it's offering supercar performance and utility for 65k OTD.

Name one other brand new car that does that.
After driving it for a few days you have become even more passionate, which is a great sign.
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      04-10-2023, 09:25 PM   #1023
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After driving it for a few days you have become even more passionate, which is a great sign.
That and the same people keep coming into the forum to overstate the the usual hate tropes. Then lurk for a week, come back. Rinse, repeat. It's like they're addicted to arguing with people on the internet over a product they either can't afford, don't want, or both so they keep trying to justify their existence here, even though it's virtual

Now we're seeing people in here saying the 240i is faster than an M2 hahaha. Like BMW would seriously do that? That's a level of dumb I can't imagine.

The 240i is a great car. But seriously, get a grip people.
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      04-10-2023, 09:30 PM   #1024
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Now we're seeing people in here saying the 240i is faster than an M2 hahaha. Like BMW would seriously do that? That's a level of dumb I can't imagine.

The 240i is a great car. But seriously, get a grip people.
Man I hope we have a lot of butter...
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Man, saying something hateful and then calling someone hateful because they call you out as hateful is over played.
Just like people who call everything “woke” no matter how much sense it doesn’t make. It’s like their go to because they never have anything clever to say.
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      04-10-2023, 09:33 PM   #1026
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That and the same people keep coming into the forum to overstate the the usual hate tropes. Then lurk for a week, come back. Rinse, repeat. It's like they're addicted to arguing with people on the internet over a product they either can't afford, don't want, or both so they keep trying to justify their existence here, even though it's virtual

Now we're seeing people in here saying the 240i is faster than an M2 hahaha. Like BMW would seriously do that? That's a level of dumb I can't imagine.

The 240i is a great car. But seriously, get a grip people.
Yes, you definitely seems passionate in that aspect, I was more so pointing out that you must really be impressed with the car and getting connected with it, and it's showing in your passion. But yeah, trolls gonna troll.

I realized people were not giving any thought to the m2 still not being past break in and the obvious limitation that brought, and decided to let them be willfully ignorant. Once a manual is broken in and we can rev higher it's going to have ridiculous pull that the crutch of awd won't be able to compare to.
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Yes, you definitely seems passionate in that aspect, I was more so pointing out that you must really be impressed with the car and getting connected with it, and it's showing in your passion. But yeah, trolls gonna troll.

I realized people were not giving any thought to the m2 still not being past break in and the obvious limitation that brought, and decided to let them be willfully ignorant. Once a manual is broken in and we can rev higher it's going to have ridiculous pull that the crutch of awd won't be able to compare to.
I was due for a rant on trolls hating on a new product to feed their troll appetite.
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That and the same people keep coming into the forum to overstate the the usual hate tropes. Then lurk for a week, come back. Rinse, repeat. It's like they're addicted to arguing with people on the internet over a product they either can't afford, don't want, or both so they keep trying to justify their existence here, even though it's virtual

Now we're seeing people in here saying the 240i is faster than an M2 hahaha. Like BMW would seriously do that? That's a level of dumb I can't imagine.

The 240i is a great car. But seriously, get a grip people.
I mean I don’t doubt that the M240i Xdrive is a hair quicker in a true 0-60 than the M2 just because of AWD. Anything beyond that like a rolling start, 1/4, etc. and I’m sure the M2 comes out on top.

Edit: forgot to mention the fact that none of the first day owners has theirs properly broken in yet either. Once the M240i Xdrive doesn’t have the advantage of AWD off the line, I’d imagine a broken in M2 would have no problem starting to pull away from it in a rolling race.
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Man, saying something hateful and then calling someone hateful because they call you out as hateful is over played.
Dude, calling a car a trans-swimmer is hateful now, but some calling a car a female isn’t? Read both comments and tell me which is more offensive in the same context.
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I mean I don’t doubt that the M240i Xdrive is a hair quicker in a true 0-60 than the M2 just because of AWD. Anything beyond that like a rolling start, 1/4, etc. and I’m sure the M2 comes out on top.
Precisely - it's a one-trick pony. Great now that everyone pointed out the obvious we can get back to a discussion and positive thread in our enthusiast forum of the G87.
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I was due for a rant on trolls hating on a new product to feed their troll appetite.
You are also one of the few people that can give first hand experience to give context to your opinions, and impressions, it's no longer a hypothetical.
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I didn't say any specific thing about your statement was hateful, yet you still know exactly what I was referencing which means you completely understand what was hateful.

You have already made your thoughts on the vehicle clear, so when you then correlate those thoughts and opinions with your other terrible thoughts and opinions you expect others to be too stupid to understand? Nobody called any car a female, maybe feminine, but you don't seem to understand the difference.
I don’t know what your going on about, but you’ve lost the plot and it’s just a car, this isn’t political and I have no hate towards trans-gender individuals. Don’t paint me to be something you despise.

If a forum member makes a comment that could be labeled as offensive, it’s reasonable to point it out, but to call someone trash and tell them they have bad taste because of it is offensive personally.

Now back on topic to the G87, I’m looking forward to driving one soon!
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This thread has many twists and turns. Like my favorite roads.
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I didn't call you trash. Maybe leave people that are the target of hate out of your comparison of something you have already stated you don't like.
I never said you did - Go back a page and get educated on my reference to the comment.


Feel free to look at my past comments on the G87 and you’ll find I never said i don’t like it, I’ve said if I didn’t already own a M2 that I’m happy with, I would consider a G87 in TR, it’s refreshing that BMW still makes such a car..

Let this be a lesson, don’t dare compare anyone’s gender in reference to the G87, no matter if in jest or otherwise, it will do nothing but derail the integrity of this great thread.
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