[themk]

Originally Posted by chris719

It's going to be $64k base probably, I doubt one will be able to be purchased with common options like Exec equivalent etc. at less than $69k. The market has moved up in price and this car starts out much closer to the M3/M4 than the F87 did.

I would expect it to be about 10K ish Cheaper the M3 there pricing modle will be simular to previouse gernerations I also anticipate about half the options that are available on its big brothers. I think this is why the car is built in Mexico to stay compeditive on the price otherwise it would be allot closer to M3/M4

[Tag]

A 2023 base M4 is $74,700. Keeping this simple, just subtract $10k from that which would be $64,700; that's roughly what the base M2 will start at. The M2 however will come with more options standard than an M4, but it's not going to be a bargain like the F87 was.

[chris719]

Originally Posted by themk

I would expect it to be about 10K ish Cheaper the M3 there pricing modle will be simular to previouse gernerations I also anticipate about half the options that are available on its big brothers. I think this is why the car is built in Mexico to stay compeditive on the price otherwise it would be allot closer to M3/M4

It's built in Mexico because all F42 are built in Mexico. Just like F87 was built in Leipzig because all F22 were built in Leipzig.

[M3WC]

Originally Posted by Tag

A 2023 base M4 is $74,700. Keeping this simple, just subtract $10k from that which would be $64,700; that's roughly what the base M2 will start at. The M2 however will come with more options standard than an M4, but it's not going to be a bargain like the F87 was.

Traditionally the gap to M4 has been larger, around a 20% premium.

MY21 - M2 comp(dct) $61,800
MY21 - M4 comp $74,700
20.8% prem for M4.

MY23 - M4 base $74,700
MY23 - M4 comp $78,600

Gap could close a little to around 18% due to more standard M4 equipment.
G87 base ~ $61,500
G87 comp ~ $64,500

[atl_1M]

Agreed. I'm thinking around 62,500 base price without destination.

[Game]

I think 62.5 would be reasonable.

[M Fifty]

I think then986 was built in Finland? Not the cheapest place given that car washes are indoors and centrally heated so the hoses don't freeze..

[T_U_D]

I think $62.5 would be very reasonable. Approx ninety days to go +/-.

[Ronin76]

Originally Posted by Tag

I visit the Porsche website like once or twice a year and go through the process of building out a car on the configurator. Then I look at the price and start removing options. Then I realize it's bare bones and and it's still fairly expensive. Then after some pacing and having deep thoughts on how I can make this happen without having a guilt trip I find myself back on BMWs website. Rinse and repeat in 8~12mo.

LOL...I am right there with you. Though I am on their website quite often.

My dream is to own a Porsche (I love the Cayman...small size mid-engine) but the price is a bit much to swallow. So then I think, should I get say a CPO Cayman S or a new M2? Which is why I am bugging you guys with all my questions.

I like the idea of new (new car warranty) but having a Cayman before I get too old is also appealing. I think I would be happy with both cars though.

[themk]

Originally Posted by chris719

It's built in Mexico because all F42 are built in Mexico. Just like F87 was built in Leipzig because all F22 were built in Leipzig.

None the less there both being built in Mexico most likley to achieve price point and return on there investment.

[Gdiddy23]

Originally Posted by pkalhan

LOL...I am right there with you. Though I am on their website quite often.

My dream is to own a Porsche (I love the Cayman...small size mid-engine) but the price is a bit much to swallow. So then I think, should I get say a CPO Cayman S or a new M2? Which is why I am bugging you guys with all my questions.

I like the idea of new (new car warranty) but having a Cayman before I get too old is also appealing. I think I would be happy with both cars though.

I would also love to own a Porsche myself but I'm in camp 6 cylinder or bust. I'm sure the cayman S is a beast but something about a 4 cylinder car at that price (looking at the Lotus Evora too) just doesn't do anything for me unfortunately

[Ronin76]

Originally Posted by Gdiddy23

I would also love to own a Porsche myself but I'm in camp 6 cylinder or bust. I'm sure the cayman S is a beast but something about a 4 cylinder car at that price (looking at the Lotus Evora too) just doesn't do anything for me unfortunately

I hear ya. Everyone has their own preferences and that is fine. I think both are solid cars (911 CPO ).

I am thinking about the Emira as well but will wait to see what initial owners say about it before making decision. My next car will be my main car (for the most part) so worry alittle about their dealer network and turn around time for repairs. Their is a Lotus dealership down the road from me which is nice.

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by Gdiddy23

I would also love to own a Porsche myself but I'm in camp 6 cylinder or bust. I'm sure the cayman S is a beast but something about a 4 cylinder car at that price (looking at the Lotus Evora too) just doesn't do anything for me unfortunately

A friend recently had a ‘21 Boxster S manual as a Porsche service loaner and stated that he was initially disappointing, but once he put the car into sport mode with PSE turned on it became a totally different car and he walked away fairly impressed after turning it back in with an additional 70 miles on the odometer. The MSRP on it new was apparently $101k. One can get a bare bones Boxster/Cayman GTS 4.0 for $90k’ish

[Ronin76]

Originally Posted by M3WC

MY21 - M2 comp(dct) $61,800
MY21 - M4 comp $74,700
20.8% prem for M4.

MY23 - M4 base $74,700
MY23 - M4 comp $78,600

G87 base ?
G87 comp ?

So, do you guys think it would be a good idea to take, say $10k, from the MY23 M4 prices and then add the available options on the M3/4 to get a decent estimate on what the M2 would be? If that is the case...I am at $88,150 using the $78,600 price. Would the price for the options for the M3/M4 be the same as the M2?

M2 comp - $68,600
exterior paint - $1,950
Full Merino Leather - $2,550
Carbon Fiber trim - $950
Driving Assistance Professional Package - $1,700
Executive Package - $1,800
Parking Assist Package - $800
Icon Adaptive LED Headlights with Laserlight - $1,000
M carbon bucket seats - $3,800
Carbon Package - $4,700
Shadow Line Lights - $300

[Game]

Originally Posted by pkalhan

So, do you guys think it would be a good idea to take, say $10k, from the MY23 M4 prices and then add the available options on the M3/4 to get a decent estimate on what the M2 would be? If that is the case...I am at $88,150 using the $78,600 price. Would the price for the options for the M3/M4 be the same as the M2?

M2 comp - $68,600
exterior paint - $1,950
Full Merino Leather - $2,550
Carbon Fiber trim - $950
Driving Assistance Professional Package - $1,700
Executive Package - $1,800
Parking Assist Package - $800
Icon Adaptive LED Headlights with Laserlight - $1,000
M carbon bucket seats - $3,800
Carbon Package - $4,700
Shadow Line Lights - $300

Might want to take a look at your prices again.

To start the M4 coupe starts at $74.7 and paint is $650.

[Ronin76]

Originally Posted by Game

Might want to take a look at your prices again.

To start the M4 coupe starts at $74.7 and paint is $650.

Sorry, the M4 price I used was based on what M3W3 provided for the Comp. The price of the paint was for Tanzanite Blue II Metallic. I figured estimate higher just to be safe.

[strohw]

Originally Posted by pkalhan

LOL...I am right there with you. Though I am on their website quite often.

My dream is to own a Porsche (I love the Cayman...small size mid-engine) but the price is a bit much to swallow. So then I think, should I get say a CPO Cayman S or a new M2? Which is why I am bugging you guys with all my questions.

I like the idea of new (new car warranty) but having a Cayman before I get too old is also appealing. I think I would be happy with both cars though.

This one is actually pretty easy to solve. Go test drive a Cayman and then a last gen M2. Know that the new M2 is probably going to be a bit more refined and faster. You even live in a state that has these cars for sale in enough quantity to do this.

[Game]

Originally Posted by strohw

This one is actually pretty easy to solve. Go test drive a Cayman and then a last gen M2. Know that the new M2 is probably going to be a bit more refined and faster. You even live in a state that has these cars for sale in enough quantity to do this.

He's better off finding a G8x to drive than an F87. Now the hardest part...finding one.

[Germanauto]

$65K is actually not as bad as I anticipated. Still $10k+ less than other sport sedans/coupes including the Cayman S, M3, etc.

I've had my mind set on a Boxster S next, but the M2 could get my dollars at this price if it's as fun as the F87.

[Ronin76]

Has anyone's opinions changed since this thread first started? I am starting to think with a few choice options (buckets seats...needing to get full leather) this car may be pushing high for $70s. Am I over estimating here?

[MG20i]

Originally Posted by Ronin76

Has anyone's opinions changed since this thread first started? I am starting to think with a few choice options (buckets seats...needing to get full leather) this car may be pushing high for $70s. Am I over estimating here?

I think you are correct. Unless there are a lot of desirable options that are standard in this car. I expect to be over $75k because I want Individual paint. But I do not want the Carbon Buckets, and the @$8500 Carbon Ceramic Brakes are not even an option on this car, so who knows.

[Ronin76]

Originally Posted by MG20i

I think you are correct. Unless there are a lot of desirable options that are standard in this car. I expect to be over $75k because I want Individual paint. But I do not want the Carbon Buckets, and the @$8500 Carbon Ceramic Brakes are not even an option on this car, so who knows.

Yeah I too am interested in individual paint but also want the carbon buckets. I have a feeling this may creep into the low 80s. We will find out in about a month and a half.