[Rafichicago]

Originally Posted by AHall

Reality
2023: M5 touring coming to the US market.

2024: Are you buying one. Well it’s too expensive, it’s too heavy, the drivetrain is odd, I don’t like the colors, the steering is horrible, waiting for the CS, I will keep my 1999 E39 wagon because it’s the best M car ever made, fill the excuse here….

2026: BMW discontinues M5 touring due to poor sales

2032: BMW needs to bring the touring to the US. I would be buy one if they did

Rinse and repeat

Well there’s a price point at which certain products will sell and it seems like the moment BMW starts approaching $140-150K people look elsewhere not counting in keyboard warriors but actual buyers. At that price point there are many options and that is not amount of money that I personally would spend on any BMW and personally I think that by the time it’s properly equipped it’ll land exactly in that range.

[OriginalFake]

Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

Just the fact we can only have the M5 as a touring is pretty much a sign that Bmw want it to fail. A M340i Touring would have sold much better but i guess they are just looking at the crazy high profit margin products for us.

Not sure what you mean here...we're getting the normal M5 too. Unless you mean the M5 is the only touring model that we get.

[Humdizzle]

the enthusiast market is a weird one. i think there is a bit of contrarianism which shoots up wagon values. sedans as well.

while the M4 coupe and convertible get hung out to dry because BMW sells so many of them they aren't seen as a 'desirable' collector piece.

[chassis]

5 pages and almost 100 posts and no one mentions a V8 engine? This is an enthusiasts’ site?

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by VirtualGuitars

I just don’t get the station wagons

I just traded in my 2015 F31 M-spec wagon, It will never see the dealer floor as the guys in the shop were fighting over it. Wagons can be cool, they don't all come with kids and a dog?

[Sorai]

This will be an instant sell-out in the US market. Congrats BMW! 👏👏👏

[windtendo]

Originally Posted by SliChillax

I'm just happy that the M5 is finally getting wider rear fenders.

Is there somewhere that states it will finally get wider fenders? I must've missed reading that.

[VirtualGuitars]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

I just traded in my 2015 F31 M-spec wagon, It will never see the dealer floor as the guys in the shop were fighting over it. Wagons can be cool, they don't all come with kids and a dog?

It’s just not the type of vehicle that’s going to get you laid - unless it’s the wife requesting it…

[Car-Addicted]

[QUOTE=Zulu Saffa;30252612]I do not understand SUV's. /QUOTE]

IMO SUV's are for Soccer Moms, Kids and Dogs and Old Men.

Next time you walk out of the grocery store, look around and you will find a sea of SUV's. How many folks can tell the difference between a X3/X5 and your basic Ford or Nissan. My 2 years owning a BMW X3, I consider as my Automotive Purgatory.

[Adomone]

As with everything BMW lately, it all comes down to the front.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by VirtualGuitars

It’s just not the type of vehicle that’s going to get you laid

You may be hanging out with the wrong women? Take a page from the Hunter Biden dating book, It's not about the car. Now if your looking for a life partner nothing says stable and mature like a guy in a Sports Wagon.

[VirtualGuitars]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

You may be hanging out with the wrong women? Take a page from the Hunter Biden dating book, It's not about the car. Now if your looking for a life partner nothing says stable and mature like a guy in a Sports Wagon.

Now that was funny. Great response.

[BimmerMat135]

Originally Posted by OriginalFake

Not sure what you mean here...we're getting the normal M5 too. Unless you mean the M5 is the only touring model that we get.

I meant that the only touring available will be the M5. So it’s probably a Bmw’s way to say we know it won’t sell and we told you so. So even if they sell few hundred since the profit margin are so high it will make profit. If Bmw was serious about Tourings in Usa we would have a 330i/M340i as volume seller. Therefore brigning the M3 as a niche product would be easy. They could make a 540i and some type of i5 touring for our market it would show some good faith. But with just the M5 Touring available they are pretty much laughing at us.

[Nkr15]

How does this compare to the panamera/taycan

[bavarianboar]

$150k sticker price. Buckle up

[Rux]

Originally Posted by Rafichicago

Well there’s a price point at which certain products will sell and it seems like the moment BMW starts approaching $140-150K people look elsewhere not counting in keyboard warriors but actual buyers. At that price point there are many options and that is not amount of money that I personally would spend on any BMW and personally I think that by the time it’s properly equipped it’ll land exactly in that range.

100 percent agree. I am pretty sure this is what I am trading my M4 in for. It’s the price point mostly and somewhat performance that will stop me. The XM is 160-170k. Let’s say a loaded one of these matches that. Depending on how they lease, i’m pretty damn close to 911 territory. I might just say fuck it and go that route. it’s has to weight in close to 3 tons. Talk about a flying brick.

[Rux]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

the enthusiast market is a weird one. i think there is a bit of contrarianism which shoots up wagon values. sedans as well.

while the M4 coupe and convertible get hung out to dry because BMW sells so many of them they aren't seen as a 'desirable' collector piece.

neither is the M3 which they make more of.

[nsquared]

So excited.

[cncmastr]

Perfect. Put me down for one. I’ll replace my 2018 X5M for this.

And if I can, a six speed please.

[oz555]

Originally Posted by VirtualGuitars

I just don’t get the station wagons, but I guess if you really need one this would be the one to get…

Me neither but…

[jphcbpa]

Originally Posted by Rafichicago

I believe we will get regular 5 series wagon. Homologation process is way too costly for them to justify paying for that and only sell a few hundred cars.

According to the future model thread the G61 is not for the US market

[jbeene]

Maybe this will bring me back to BMW, but I gotta say I love my RS6. Looks great, handles great, faster than my C2S.

I hope they don’t completely botch the styling. The M3 is still not growing on me.