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      10-24-2021, 10:31 AM   #1101
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Is the g15 LCI likely to include a new infotainment screen size?
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      10-24-2021, 12:00 PM   #1102
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If it Is the case i guess that would make the M2 competition the only competition model available with the 6MT.
Let's wait and see.

It can be taken for granted that both a manual and automatic gearbox will be available on the G87 M2. Still offering a manual transmission (despite the lowering take rate) is a unique selling point for BMW M compared to high performance cars sold by Mercedes and Audi.

Also Porsche still taps into the manual gearbox market. Porsche GT boss Andreas Preuninger in 2009: "First, the PDK weighs 66 pounds. Second, PDK does not have a clutch you can control, and if you want to do really big drifts, sometimes you need a clutch." and "The manual gearbox in the GT3 is the best match for the purist." (source: here). And in 2010 he commented: "Grandmas can use paddles. They aren’t challenging." (source: here). A couple of years later: the 991.1 GT3 RS was PDK only. On the 992 GT3 (2021) - offering both a manual and PDK gearbox - the PDK gear shifter was designed ...to mimic a manual gear shifter.

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      10-24-2021, 01:47 PM   #1103
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Not complaining about a bump in output are we?

460ps Base
480ps Comp + Pure
That gives 338/339kW for the base G87 M2 and 353/354kW for the G87 M2C/M2P.

That's quite a bump considering that the base F87 M2 (2016) got 370ps, the F87 M2C (2018) 410ps and the F87 M2 CS (2020) 450ps.
It's not a big jump if you consider the S55 F87 M2C as the "baseline" for comparison rather than the N55 M2.
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      11-12-2021, 01:24 PM   #1104
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ynguldyn any updates on the M4 CSL numbers (rumoured or otherwise)? After the interview with Markus Flasch, everything is as clear as mud on that front.
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      11-13-2021, 02:36 PM   #1105
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Added SOP and hp numbers for G70 hybrids.
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      11-13-2021, 07:42 PM   #1106
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Added SOP and hp numbers for G70 hybrids.
We will see a larger battery on the 330e for the LCI models?
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      11-14-2021, 06:22 PM   #1107
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Added SOP and hp numbers for G70 hybrids.
The 745ex and M750ex are now designated as having an S58 motor; previously the motor was B58. Is this a recent change?
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      11-14-2021, 06:29 PM   #1108
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The 745ex and M750ex are now designated as having an S58 motor; previously the motor was B58. Is this a recent change?
No, just a late night edit. Just before that I corrected the XM line to say "S68" instead of "S58" (which in the hindsight was a dumb mistake - I literally had the right clue in front of me for months, no underhood pics needed) and then got a short circuit in the brain.
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      11-18-2021, 02:11 AM   #1109
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I want to have one of these models of BMW in future
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      11-23-2021, 10:08 PM   #1110
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@ynguldyn from what you can see is the "touchscreenless" version of the new idrive 8 dash chip shortage driven or an intentional choice for lower end/decontented models
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      12-05-2021, 12:35 AM   #1111
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Added SOP for two more XM versions and some unknown very special M4.
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      12-05-2021, 06:32 AM   #1112
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Added SOP for two more XM versions and some unknown very special M4.
According to my dealer, that one is the 50 Jahre celebration model NOT the CSL
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      12-05-2021, 01:52 PM   #1113
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According to my dealer, that one is the 50 Jahre celebration model NOT the CSL
Yes, it does look like something built for the occasion, and it's not CSL. I said "configured like the CSL".
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      12-05-2021, 05:36 PM   #1114
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According to my dealer, that one is the 50 Jahre celebration model NOT the CSL
Yes, it does look like something built for the occasion, and it's not CSL. I said "configured like the CSL".
This puts me in an awkward position as I have put down a substantial deposit for a CSL. In essence though, I'd be looking for the manual transmission more so than the auto CSL (which as you've correctly pointed out is not a CSL)

Decisions decisions
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      12-07-2021, 06:28 PM   #1115
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Will it get the "pure version" of the S58 or a further upgraded B58?
I hope so! Always thought Z3 M was one of those
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      12-21-2021, 09:06 PM   #1116
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The 745ex and M750ex are now designated as having an S58 motor; previously the motor was B58. Is this a recent change?
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      12-22-2021, 07:44 AM   #1117
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Do you have any insight as to what changes the M240i might get in the US for MY 2023?

I ordered a 2022 to be my winter car but it has been pushed so many times that I don't think I will even see it this winter and with a brand new G80 about to be in my garage it wouldn't get much use in the summer.

So I am trying to decide if I should just stick to the one I have on order or if I should wait and order a 2023 in time for winter next year.

If M Seats, M Seat belts and maybe a moonroof deletion option might be on the table then I would probably wait. Thanks
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      12-22-2021, 02:16 PM   #1118
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ynguldyn

Do you have any insight as to what changes the M240i might get in the US for MY 2023?

I ordered a 2022 to be my winter car but it has been pushed so many times that I don't think I will even see it this winter and with a brand new G80 about to be in my garage it wouldn't get much use in the summer.

So I am trying to decide if I should just stick to the one I have on order or if I should wait and order a 2023 in time for winter next year.

If M Seats, M Seat belts and maybe a moonroof deletion option might be on the table then I would probably wait. Thanks
Look at the top post, G42 08/22 option changes.
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Any idea when the G87 will be revealed?
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      12-23-2021, 03:16 AM   #1120
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Any idea when the G87 will be revealed?
The day after the embargo is lifted
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      12-26-2021, 01:58 PM   #1121
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      12-30-2021, 07:59 AM   #1122
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One thing that isn't clear to me from reading the top post is the OS the M3/M4 will get between 7/22 and 3/23, can you comment on that and/or clarify the top post?

The M3 touring will get OS8 on launch, that kinda implies to me the M3 will get OS8 then (or more likely in 7/22 with the 3er LCI) as well; but what about the M4 (the 4er will get it in 3/23)? I assume BMW won't let M3 and M4 have different cockpits, so the M4 will get OS8 in 7/22 (or 11/22?) as well?
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