[Damion]

Originally Posted by Squidget

Why the CT5-V BW? The 4BW is the more direct competitor to the M2. Is the wait time for the 4BW just as bad?

no its like 3 months but the reason i left Cadillac and came to BMW is the fact that the aftermarket support is almost none, they can even tune the cars currently due to GM's global B system. there is a ton more support and i think there is more potential in the BMW

[Damion]

Originally Posted by evanbushey

Yes we are, wish things were different but I don’t make the rules. We’re asking 10 over,

dang that suck cause am on the wait list at chapman in chandler but i dont wanna pay over sticker and am currently number 3 there sooo i guess i will wait GLWS

[HulkMansfield]

new to the forum and new to BMW, but I'm excited to join the club. I think. Might suck. I don't know.

M2:
2500 dollar deposit
3rd on wait list
Zandvoort Blue
MT
Black wheels
Carbon roof
Carbon trim
shadowline/lighting package
M Driver's Package
Wireless charger

Deposit: 4/29/23
Allocation: 9/30/2023 (Est July '23)
Scheduled for Prod: 10/4/2023 (Est July '23)
Production Begins: 10/10/2023 (Est August '23)
Exterior Body Assembly: 10/22/2023
In the paint booth: 10/22/2023
Entering assembly line: 10/22/2023
Assembly in progress: 10/22/2023
Quality Check: 10/22/2023
Final Assembly: 10/23/2023
Ready for Transport: 11/1/2023 (Est Winter '23)

I'm still on the fence about a couple features, namely the HUD and the heated steering wheel. The wheel, I could not care less about, but it may help with resale value down the line. The HUD is pricey, and I thought it was a lot of fun in the car I test drove, but I'm not sure if it's really worth it. I have until the order is sent for production to decide.

I'm coming from a 2007 Corolla CE, so hopefully this feels like an upgrade

[yaymitch]

Originally Posted by HulkMansfield

new to the forum and new to BMW, but I'm excited to join the club. I think. Might suck. I don't know.

M2:
2500 dollar deposit
3rd on wait list
Zandvoort Blue
MT
Black wheels
Carbon roof
Carbon trim
shadowline/lighting package
M Driver's Package
Wireless charger

Deposit: 4/29/23
Allocation: NA (Est July '23)
Scheduled for Prod: NA (Est July '23)
Production Begins: NA (Est August '23)
Exterior Body Assembly: NA
In the paint booth: NA
Entering assembly line: NA
Assembly in progress: NA
Quality Check: NA
Final Assembly: NA
Ready for Transport: Winter '23

I'm still on the fence about a couple features, namely the HUD and the heated steering wheel. The wheel, I could not care less about, but it may help with resale value down the line. The HUD is pricey, and I thought it was a lot of fun in the car I test drove, but I'm not sure if it's really worth it. I have until the order is sent for production to decide.

I'm coming from a 2007 Corolla CE, so hopefully this feels like an upgrade

HUD is really nice if you track the car. Once you have it whether you track it or not, you’ll not want to buy another car without it.

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by HulkMansfield

new to the forum and new to BMW, but I'm excited to join the club. I think. Might suck. I don't know.

M2:
2500 dollar deposit
3rd on wait list
Zandvoort Blue
MT
Black wheels
Carbon roof
Carbon trim
shadowline/lighting package
M Driver's Package
Wireless charger

Deposit: 4/29/23
Allocation: NA (Est July '23)
Scheduled for Prod: NA (Est July '23)
Production Begins: NA (Est August '23)
Exterior Body Assembly: NA
In the paint booth: NA
Entering assembly line: NA
Assembly in progress: NA
Quality Check: NA
Final Assembly: NA
Ready for Transport: Winter '23

I'm still on the fence about a couple features, namely the HUD and the heated steering wheel. The wheel, I could not care less about, but it may help with resale value down the line. The HUD is pricey, and I thought it was a lot of fun in the car I test drove, but I'm not sure if it's really worth it. I have until the order is sent for production to decide.

I'm coming from a 2007 Corolla CE, so hopefully this feels like an upgrade

I’ve had HUD on my last three cars and it still feels like a gimmick. It’s also extremely annoying to use at night since it creates a glow on your windshield. I already feel like this car has too many screens, so I opted out as an excuse to spend money on the carbon roof and MP HAS instead.

[Carefree]

Originally Posted by evanbushey

Yes we are, wish things were different but I don’t make the rules. We’re asking 10 over,

That’s one reason smart buyers deal with North Scottsdale BMW and not your dealership.

[MmmmmM2]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

I’ve had HUD on my last three cars and it still feels like a gimmick. It’s also extremely annoying to use at night since it creates a glow on your windshield. I already feel like this car has too many screens, so I opted out as an excuse to spend money on the carbon roof and MP HAS instead.

Yep. I had HUD on my 340i and hated it.

[rk95]

Originally Posted by HulkMansfield

new to the forum and new to BMW, but I'm excited to join the club. I think. Might suck. I don't know.

M2:
2500 dollar deposit
3rd on wait list
Zandvoort Blue
MT
Black wheels
Carbon roof
Carbon trim
shadowline/lighting package
M Driver's Package
Wireless charger

Deposit: 4/29/23
Allocation: NA (Est July '23)
Scheduled for Prod: NA (Est July '23)
Production Begins: NA (Est August '23)
Exterior Body Assembly: NA
In the paint booth: NA
Entering assembly line: NA
Assembly in progress: NA
Quality Check: NA
Final Assembly: NA
Ready for Transport: Winter '23

I'm still on the fence about a couple features, namely the HUD and the heated steering wheel. The wheel, I could not care less about, but it may help with resale value down the line. The HUD is pricey, and I thought it was a lot of fun in the car I test drove, but I'm not sure if it's really worth it. I have until the order is sent for production to decide.

I'm coming from a 2007 Corolla CE, so hopefully this feels like an upgrade

If there’s one of these options that helps resale, it is the HUD. It’s worth every penny regardless if you track or not. I wouldn’t buy another car without it tbh

[cmgbk75]

Originally Posted by HulkMansfield

new to the forum and new to BMW, but I'm excited to join the club. I think. Might suck. I don't know.

M2:
2500 dollar deposit
3rd on wait list
Zandvoort Blue
MT
Black wheels
Carbon roof
Carbon trim
shadowline/lighting package
M Driver's Package
Wireless charger

Deposit: 4/29/23
Allocation: NA (Est July '23)
Scheduled for Prod: NA (Est July '23)
Production Begins: NA (Est August '23)
Exterior Body Assembly: NA
In the paint booth: NA
Entering assembly line: NA
Assembly in progress: NA
Quality Check: NA
Final Assembly: NA
Ready for Transport: Winter '23

I'm still on the fence about a couple features, namely the HUD and the heated steering wheel. The wheel, I could not care less about, but it may help with resale value down the line. The HUD is pricey, and I thought it was a lot of fun in the car I test drove, but I'm not sure if it's really worth it. I have until the order is sent for production to decide.

I'm coming from a 2007 Corolla CE, so hopefully this feels like an upgrade

I think you’ll find it a nice upgrade.

Do you just not like the Carbon Buckets? This will be one unique spec with all the Carbon package but but the buckets. Curious about the M Drivers pack, what’s the appeal there for $2500 in the US? The M class you get out of it could be had for a lot less, especially with a CCA discount.

[Squidget]

Originally Posted by cmgbk75

I think you’ll find it a nice upgrade.

Do you just not like the Carbon Buckets? This will be one unique spec with all the Carbon package but but the buckets. Curious about the M Drivers pack, what’s the appeal there for $2500 in the US? The M class you get out of it could be had for a lot less, especially with a CCA discount.

I think the HUD is great, and I like being able to navigate without looking away from the road.

Drivers' pack also unlocks the limiter to 177MPH, if you care about that. Which I don't. It seems like a terrible option TBH?

[cmgbk75]

Originally Posted by Squidget

I think the HUD is great, and I like being able to navigate without looking away from the road.

Drivers' pack also unlocks the limiter to 177MPH, if you care about that. Which I don't. It seems like a terrible option TBH?

Agreed. That’s why I was curious why OP wanted it. I’d get it in a heartbeat if I commuted on the Autobahn. Here, seems pointless unless you’re doing very specific high speed track work.

Also agree, the iDrive8 HUD is awesome.

[Squidget]

Originally Posted by cmgbk75

I’d get it in a heartbeat if I commuted on the Autobahn. Here, seems pointless unless you’re doing very specific high speed track work.

Dunno man, It's dicey up in that range unless you've got a lot of downforce. I don't think I'd take a stock BMW above 140 on the Bahn.

Sure, add aero and a closed track, things would be different. Not sure why you'd be doing that with a G87 specifically, as opposed to a Veyron.

And if it's MT, you are getting into some crappy gear ratios and I'm not even sure that the G87 can actually get to 177. I'm sure that's into 6th gear, I doubt torque at that point can overcome wind resistance.

[az8823]

Hi everyone, sorry if this has been asked before, but I tried to comb through as many of the post as I could before my eyes started to hurt. Finally getting back into a BMW, formerly I owned a '14 335 and '14 550 so it's been awhile. Anyways, I went to my dealer last week and put the deposit down on a new M2 MT. He told me est production Aug and delivery by Sept. I've never ordered a vehicle before so I'm not really too informed of the process. His response was that if they get the # they typically get allocated, the Aug prod date should be pretty accurate. However, I've come across of a lot of people saying fall to next spring time frames. Honestly, I don't want to wait that long. So, my questions are, do you feel he's being realistic and 2) Should I think more about an M3?
I love the looks of the M2 but not sure if I'm ready for a coupe as a DD. With the M3, I actually like the looks of it and having the sedan would be a huge plus long term but I'm probably still 65/35 leaning towards staying on the list for the M2. Any insight would be great. Thanks in advance.

[Squidget]

Originally Posted by az8823

Hi everyone, sorry if this has been asked before, but I tried to comb through as many of the post as I could before my eyes started to hurt. Finally getting back into a BMW, formerly I owned a '14 335 and '14 550 so it's been awhile. Anyways, I went to my dealer last week and put the deposit down on a new M2 MT. He told me est production Aug and delivery by Sept. I've never ordered a vehicle before so I'm not really too informed of the process. His response was that if they get the # they typically get allocated, the Aug prod date should be pretty accurate. However, I've come across of a lot of people saying fall to next spring time frames. Honestly, I don't want to wait that long. So, my questions are, do you feel he's being realistic and 2) Should I think more about an M3?
I love the looks of the M2 but not sure if I'm ready for a coupe as a DD. With the M3, I actually like the looks of it and having the sedan would be a huge plus long term but I'm probably still 65/35 leaning towards staying on the list for the M2. Any insight would be great. Thanks in advance.

Build date estimates mean little until your dealer has an allocation, so I'd start with that. All estimates are just wild guesses until you are in the order bank, and have an allocation with a production number. Allocations for MY23 are scarce and I'd be surprised if they are just sitting on one, so I'm a little sus.

IF you get an allocation with a production number, then BMW (not the dealer) will assign the allocation an estimated build week, and that estimate is pretty trustworthy. Not guaranteed, because supply chain problems are still popping up, but as good as you can probably get.

M3 build wait times are also high, I think, so not sure you could get that appreciably faster.

I can't comment on whether you should get a coupe or sedan, only you can answer that. But M2 rear seats are smaller than both the M3 and M4, not really suitable for adults, so factor that in.

Edit: this is worth a read.

[az8823]

Originally Posted by Squidget

Build date estimates mean little until your dealer has an allocation, so I'd start with that. All estimates are just wild guesses until you are in the order bank, and have an allocation with a production number. Allocations for MY23 are scarce and I'd be surprised if they are just sitting on one, so I'm a little sus.

IF you get an allocation with a production number, then BMW (not the dealer) will assign the allocation an estimated build week, and that estimate is pretty trustworthy. Not guaranteed, because supply chain problems are still popping up, but as good as you can probably get.

M3 build wait times are also high, I think, so not sure you could get that appreciably faster.

I can't comment on whether you should get a coupe or sedan, only you can answer that. But M2 rear seats are smaller than both the M3 and M4, not really suitable for adults, so factor that in.

Edit: this is worth a read.

Thanks for the info, the post was def a good read to at least understand the process and I can at least ask better questions to get better answers for what I hope to happen.

[cmgbk75]

Originally Posted by Squidget

Dunno man, It's dicey up in that range unless you've got a lot of downforce. I don't think I'd take a stock BMW above 140 on the Bahn.

Sure, add aero and a closed track, things would be different. Not sure why you'd be doing that with a G87 specifically, as opposed to a Veyron.

And if it's MT, you are getting into some crappy gear ratios and I'm not even sure that the G87 can actually get to 177. I'm sure that's into 6th gear, I doubt torque at that point can overcome wind resistance.

Well, here ya go…Hope OP doesn’t have any teenagers at home.

https://www.koin.com/local/washingto...76-mph-on-i-5/

[bernard1414]

Just got a call from my dealer asking me if I am interested in a Toronto Red 8/spd that is coming form the port next week. No dealer markup and actually under MSRP. I jumped on it before they could finish their sentence.

$67k MSRP, $0 due at signing, $999/month 12k/36

[DSTR]

Originally Posted by Squidget

Dunno man, It's dicey up in that range unless you've got a lot of downforce. I don't think I'd take a stock BMW above 140 on the Bahn.

What???? LOL. My 'stock' M235i/M440ix/17-M2 and 22 M240i are quite stable on the good roads/Autobahn most areas I drive. The cars, certainly most M are more than capable of dealing such forces. Weak link is a driver!!

[HulkMansfield]

Originally Posted by cmgbk75

I think you’ll find it a nice upgrade.

Do you just not like the Carbon Buckets? This will be one unique spec with all the Carbon package but but the buckets. Curious about the M Drivers pack, what’s the appeal there for $2500 in the US? The M class you get out of it could be had for a lot less, especially with a CCA discount.

I'll be using it as a daily more often than tracking it, but wanted carbon fiber everything else. I mostly like the look. I've seen reviews go back and forth on whether the buckets are comfortable enough for daily, but I got to test drive the sports seats and really liked them. I can't seem to find anyone with the buckets available to try them out.

I didn't know about the discount. I'll definitely be looking into that! I do want the class as I may have some friends make a trip out of it. But I also wanted the raised speed limit. I didn't like the idea of having a low limit on such a powerful car. I wish they would separate them out

[cmgbk75]

Originally Posted by HulkMansfield

I'll be using it as a daily more often than tracking it, but wanted carbon fiber everything else. I mostly like the look. I've seen reviews go back and forth on whether the buckets are comfortable enough for daily, but I got to test drive the sports seats and really liked them. I can't seem to find anyone with the buckets available to try them out.

I didn't know about the discount. I'll definitely be looking into that! I do want the class as I may have some friends make a trip out of it. But I also wanted the raised speed limit. I didn't like the idea of having a low limit on such a powerful car. I wish they would separate them out

Test drive a M3/4 with the Carbon seats. You’re paying for everything else in the Carbon Package that BMW forces people who just want the CB to buy. So the value proposition is different in your case. Most people don’t want the M Drivers Pack and would love to be able to ala carte the seats as in the M3/4.

[Damion]

Well not so sad news, i dropped my name off the wait list for the M2 and decided to get the M3 in a manual for now. we are going to wait for the M2 Comp and buy that one hoping there are more colors.

[m20e3087]

When can we acpect to see MY24 order guide?