[See5]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

Yeah ya fucking think, what an atrocious colour.

Pretty sure that's Zeus Bronze. Not a wrap. Looks better in the sun but definitely a weird color for a Corvette.



Reminds me of the brown you used to see on the R32 GT-R. I'm hoping the Z-models come in crazy colors like bright green, purple, orange, etc.

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by See5

Pretty sure that's Zeus Bronze. Not a wrap.

Yep, and it needs a wrap to hide the colour.

[See5]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

Yep, and it needs a wrap to hide the colour.

Ah I get it now. lol

[Leftkeylife]

Originally Posted by See5

Pretty sure that's Zeus Bronze. Not a wrap. Looks better in the sun but definitely a weird color for a Corvette.



Reminds me of the brown you used to see on the R32 GT-R. I'm hoping the Z-models come in crazy colors like bright green, purple, orange, etc.

This color isnt great, but I think against the yellow calipers is the thing that makes it look worse.

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

Huh? Not only do these guys suck, what does the alignment have to do with it being a crummy car? Street alignments are about stability and tire wear, not ultimate track handling.

Miata's, universally hailed as one of the best handling cars in existence, run tons of camber, even with a dual A-arm setup that gains camber in compression.

I ran like -3.2° up front and -2.5° out back on RComps, and the 200TW tires are basically RComps these days as well. And that's very common. Most start at -3° upfront and some go as high/low (however you want to look at it) as -4° upfront.


Keep in mind most magazine writers and YouTuber's are the equivalent of novice/HPDE 1 when it comes to speed and skill (outside of the few like Pobst), they just write well or put together videos some find intriguing.

I have not yet driven a C8 Corvette yet. I personally don't think I'd ever buy one, but the C8 car is the most intriguing thing they've done. It's worth a look, no? I just dislike the idea of having a car that understeers terribly (based only on reviews) and needs a really aggressive alignment to handle well on the track. You think it's a crummy car?

[c1pher]

Originally Posted by IllSic_Design

It's an old person color lol

You're ageist.

[Red Bread]

I think the color would be fine for wheels. This guy gets it.
[IMG]https://wheelfront.com/wp-content/up...wheels-1-1.jpg[/IMG]

[SakhirM4]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

I think the color would be fine for wheels. This guy gets it.
[IMG]https://wheelfront.com/wp-content/up...wheels-1-1.jpg[/IMG]

Now that is REALLY UGLY

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by SakhirM4

Now that is REALLY UGLY

The colors? I do think the wheels are too large, but like the colors. Are you old enough to like the brown?

[heavyD^2]

Originally Posted by c1pher

You're ageist.

I'm middle aged and I'm nowhere near old enough to own a car that color.

[SakhirM4]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

The colors? I do think the wheels are too large, but like the colors. Are you old enough to like the brown?

The wheels are more copper than bronze and I don't like that color. Yes, I do like the bronze color of the Corvette. It would not be my choice, but I do like it.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by Leftkeylife

I have not yet driven a C8 Corvette yet. I personally don't think I'd ever buy one, but the C8 car is the most intriguing thing they've done. It's worth a look, no? I just dislike the idea of having a car that understeers terribly (based only on reviews) and needs a really aggressive alignment to handle well on the track. You think it's a crummy car?

No, I don't. I understand the difference between a street and track alignment.

Aggressive alignments are not only about handling and preference, but also about even tire temps and wear.

I was saying one is not good for the other. You're unlikely to enjoy driving a car on the street with a lot of camber and toe out on the front. It's going to tramline and wander like crazy on the street, but turn-in the way you want on track.

Using a street oriented alignment (less camber and likely toe-in) on the track is going to destroy the outer edges of the front tires while the insides have tons of life.

[c1pher]

Originally Posted by heavyD^2

I'm middle aged and I'm nowhere near old enough to own a car that color.

I wouldn't own that color, but don't think it has anything to do with age. I ordered Sebring Orange myself.

[Leftkeylife]

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

No, I don't. I understand the difference between a street and track alignment.

Aggressive alignments are not only about handling and preference, but also about even tire temps and wear.

I was saying one is not good for the other. You're unlikely to enjoy driving a car on the street with a lot of camber and toe out on the front. It's going to tramline and wander like crazy on the street, but turn-in the way you want on track.

Using a street oriented alignment (less camber and likely toe-in) on the track is going to destroy the outer edges of the front tires while the insides have tons of life.

Yes I agree with you on the alignments and understand the difference, except that on the C8, I was indexing on that it seems you either get good handling or awful handling. I have found that while, yes, a track alignment is best for track performance and wear, many of the cars I've owned have a factory alignment yielded sharp handling on the street or back roads and still didn't need a track alignment nearly as aggressive as the C8. The C8 seemingly has a factory alignment that doesn't do that well at all on the street and needs one of the more aggressive alignments I've seen for track (generally Ive not needed much more than 1.5-2 neg camber and generally stuck to a 0 TOE). Now again, that's all what I am gleaning from the reviews and not first hand.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by Leftkeylife

Yes I agree with you on the alignments and understand the difference, except that on the C8, I was indexing on that it seems you either get good handling or awful handling. I have found that while, yes, a track alignment is best for track performance and wear, many of the cars I've owned have a factory alignment yielded sharp handling on the street or back roads and still didn't need a track alignment nearly as aggressive as the C8. The C8 seemingly has a factory alignment that doesn't do that well at all on the street and needs one of the more aggressive alignments I've seen for track (generally Ive not needed much more than 1.5-2 neg camber and generally stuck to a 0 TOE). Now again, that's all what I am gleaning from the reviews and not first hand.

As far as "I only need this much," it's a pretty meaningless statement without knowing the car, tires, suspension, your skill level, etc.

These guys are frittatas trying to get clicks and it seems to be working.

[N54Yankee]

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...cid=uxbndlbing

[WestRace]

Not good for the C8. This was confirmed by SavageGeese review that the C8 is not a driver car, at least not in the current guise.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...18-cayman-gt4/

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by WestRace

Not good for the C8. This was confirmed by SavageGeese review that the C8 is not a driver car, at least not in the current guise.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...18-cayman-gt4/

So a base model, $65k (cost of performance options) loses to the top level, track oriented Porsche that's $40k more expensive? Shocking.

Let's see how that Z06 does. Or better, compare the C8 Z06 to a 4 cylinder, base 718 and then make fun of Porsche.

[Efthreeoh]

I have to say, I just saw a C8 last week on the road in stop and go traffic, so I got a good look at it. I have to say the C8 is one car that looks better in pictures than it does in 3-D. Usually it is the other way around.

[c1pher]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

I have to say, I just saw a C8 last week on the road in stop and go traffic, so I got a good look at it. I have to say the C8 is one car that looks better in pictures than it does in 3-D. Usually it is the other way around.

I’ve seen a few too and feel, especially the lighter/ brighter colored ones look best. If you like aggressive lines like I do, you will like this car. I understand why the have the trunk, mainly for the top, to claim they have the same storage capacity as the C7 and ability to take two bags of clubs. I really wish they didn’t have the trunk to help get rid of the extra length of the car. It’s no longer small like the C7 was (same length as an M2).

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by c1pher

I’ve seen a few too and feel, especially the lighter/ brighter colored ones look best. If you like aggressive lines like I do, you will like this car. I understand why the have the trunk, mainly for the top, to claim they have the same storage capacity as the C7 and ability to take two bags of clubs. I really wish they didn’t have the trunk to help get rid of the extra length of the car. It’s no longer small like the C7 was (same length as an M2).

The one I saw was white, but there are so many doo-dads of different color on it, it's not one solid color, plus every panel is so small and un-flat that the color really doesn't accentuate the car. What I found displeasing are the numerous cut-lines in the body. The roof has three panel gaps in the span of 30 inches or so. A black body would hide the panel gaps and probably looks better. In pictures it look great, not so much in person. My opinion of course.

[c1pher]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

The one I saw was white, but there are so many doo-dads of different color on it, it's not one solid color, plus every panel is so small and un-flat that the color really doesn't accentuate the car. What I found displeasing are the numerous cut-lines in the body. The roof has three panel gaps in the span of 30 inches or so. A black body would hide the panel gaps and probably looks better. In pictures it look great, not so much in person. My opinion of course.

I’m no fashion designer, so I mean we all have opinions. One of the things that make our country awesome, when we can express them respectfully.

[WestRace]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

So a base model, $65k (cost of performance options) loses to the top level, track oriented Porsche that's $40k more expensive? Shocking.

Let's see how that Z06 does. Or better, compare the C8 Z06 to a 4 cylinder, base 718 and then make fun of Porsche.

They will probably compare the Z06 to the GT3 in which case the outcome may be similar. The issue here is not that the C8 lost to the Cayman (it only lost by one point so that might not even be a "lost" IMO), but the way it lost to the Cayman.

The issue here is they use the word like "antiseptic and numb feeling" to describe the C8 characters but hopefully the Z06 will address that.