[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

My friend , I always knew you really like "33" !
I'm pretty sure the number wasn't coincidence...

Your picture in the ///M6 at Cota looks great ,thanks for sharing

It was a complete coincidence as the numbers were assigned at the track for that one.

Max wasn't even in F1 at that point!!

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

It is very interesting to see how RBR will face this season and the future managing their own PU.

I actually believe that with McLaren coming on, Checo Perez in the team, and Force India, um Racing Point, err Aston Martin with resources and a hopefully resurgent VET, Max will have more problems than ever. This doesn't even count the noises coming from Ferrari with their new engine. There is a possibility of 7 more drivers racing hard to get to the front of the grid and never underestimate the development capabilities of McLaren once the season starts. I can easily see RBR slipping to 4th or even 5th in the WCC and Max slipping to 4th or 5th in the WDC.

Max has his work cut out for him. He's been driving in the gap between Mercedes and whomever the 3rd best team is per race. He will now have to fight for every scrap, let alone mount a championship challenge.

Contrast this with Lewis who has been in F1 for 14 years as of last season and has battled for championships in 12 of those seasons. Only 2009 and 2011 could be counted as seasons he didn't mount a championship challenge. When you think about it, that statistic is remarkable.

As in all things, we shall see when the red lights go out!

Cheers-mk

What we do know is the cars won't get faster than they were last year according to expert Brundle and with 'catch up' likely RB will be closer than ever to Merc with extra 40hp to counter their 'magic mode'.
Look, the others simply can't make such a bigger stride than Merc or RB so unlikely to trouble the top two much so your assumption of Max finishing around 4th is just unfathomable.

[Ngilbe36]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

What we do know is the cars won't get faster than they were last year according to expert Brundle and with 'catch up' likely RB will be closer than ever to Merc with extra 40hp to counter their 'magic mode'.
Look, the others simply can't make such a bigger stride than Merc or RB so unlikely to trouble the top two much so your assumption of Max finishing around 4th is just unfathomable.

Im going to quote this just so we have it for reference in 10 months

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Ngilbe36

Im going to quote this just so we have it for reference in 10 months

Quote all you like mate, if RB finish first or second then you swim the Hudson,right?

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

What we do know is the cars won't get faster than they were last year according to expert Brundle and with 'catch up' likely RB will be closer than ever to Merc with extra 40hp to counter their 'magic mode'.
Look, the others simply can't make such a bigger stride than Merc or RB so unlikely to trouble the top two much so your assumption of Max finishing around 4th is just unfathomable.

I'd say this is incorrect.

McLaren: One of the top 3 chassis now mated with the best PU and probably the best in-season development record, historically.

Fezza: You never know what they will come up with especially with being humiliated over the PU issue in 2019.

Force India, er, Racing Point, ummm, tRacing Point, dammit Aston Martin: They have punched above their weight for quite a while and now have funding, leadership, a hopefully resurgent VET, and a billionaire with an NO BS attitude in ultimate leadership. They are to be feared.

RBR is, potentially, in quite a bit of trouble. Lastly, Mercedes AMG F1 has been developing the car since the before the summer break.

Lastly, Sir Lewis is in the seat. That is a better prospect than Max in the lead seat.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

I'd say this is incorrect.

McLaren: One of the top 3 chassis now mated with the best PU and probably the best in-season development record, historically.

Fezza: You never know what they will come up with especially with being humiliated over the PU issue in 2019.

Force India, er, Racing Point, ummm, tRacing Point, dammit Aston Martin: They have punched above their weight for quite a while and now have funding, leadership, a hopefully resurgent VET, and a billionaire with an NO BS attitude in ultimate leadership. They are to be feared.

RBR is, potentially, in quite a bit of trouble. Lastly, Mercedes AMG F1 has been developing the car since the before the summer break.

Lastly, Sir Lewis is in the seat. That is a better prospect than Max in the lead seat.

McLaren have been given special permission to make chassis changes to make the Merc lump fit but will be closely monitored that it won't use any performance advantage ''benefit'' in such a way more than it should from that fit, hope you understand that.
The others were simply too-far-behind to make such a giant step now, come on you're just speculating there and of course you will always beef cake up Merc no?

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

McLaren have been given special permission to make chassis changes to make the Merc lump fit but will be closely monitored that it won't use any performance advantage ''benefit'' in such a way more than it should from that fit, hope you understand that.
The others were simply too-far-behind to make such a giant step now, come on you're just speculating there and of course you will always beef cake up Merc no?

I get what you're saying...I just know what I know having watched F1 for 45+ years. Let's watch it unfold!!

[fiveohwblow]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

I get what you're saying...I just know what I know having watched F1 for 45+ years. Let's watch it unfold!!

45+ years? Sheesh! I am just waiting to get my learners permit!

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by fiveohwblow

45+ years? Sheesh! I am just waiting to get my learners permit!

Since I was about 10 years old. F1 junkie since then!!

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

It was a complete coincidence as the numbers were assigned at the track for that one.

Max wasn't even in F1 at that point!!

My friend .This means you didn't felt it !


Because I was pulling your leg !

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

My friend .This means you didn't felt it !


Because I was pulling your leg !

I got it!

Didn't you see my dancing BMW emblem?!!!

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

I got it!

Didn't you see my dancing BMW emblem?!!!

Not posible to see that from Belgium !

But I understand completely that your S85B50 and your BMW emblem was dancing at Cota !

My S65B40 danced also several times at Francorchamps...
But also around Francorchamps pulling 8K-rpm's through the forests is awesome .

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

I'd say this is incorrect.

McLaren: One of the top 3 chassis now mated with the best PU and probably the best in-season development record, historically.

Fezza: You never know what they will come up with especially with being humiliated over the PU issue in 2019.

Force India, er, Racing Point, ummm, tRacing Point, dammit Aston Martin: They have punched above their weight for quite a while and now have funding, leadership, a hopefully resurgent VET, and a billionaire with an NO BS attitude in ultimate leadership. They are to be feared.

RBR is, potentially, in quite a bit of trouble. Lastly, Mercedes AMG F1 has been developing the car since the before the summer break.

Lastly, Sir Lewis is in the seat. That is a better prospect than Max in the lead seat.

Well my friend , if I was you ...I would throw my words in a scale !

• Lewis Hamilton

After this season HAM is done at Mercedes (90 % chance) His discussion was pretty bad with Daimler regarding his extreme contract demands .
HAM has put Daimler with their neck and back against the wall , because HAM knew that Mercedes-Daimler wants that 8th WDC and World constructors title absolutely !
That's why he got a one year contract and NOT his requested 3 year contract ..
#nolongerfriends !

• Max Verstappen

MAX has an escape clause in his RB contract , from the moment when the RB16-B isn't competitive enough to fight for the title ...
MAX can walk whenever he wants it !
I know already from last week and from today again that MAX is the #1 as for HAM's replacement at Mercedes in 2022 !!!

• Confirmed by Christian Horner and Toto Wolff .

So my friend , probably by this we can't fight anymore in 2022 !
How about that ?

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Well my friend , if I was you ...I would throw my words in a scale !

• Lewis Hamilton

After this season HAM is done at Mercedes (90 % chance) His discussion was pretty bad with Daimler regarding his extreme contract demands .
HAM has put Daimler with their neck and back against the wall , because HAM knew that Mercedes-Daimler wants that 8th WDC and World constructors title absolutely !
That's why he got a one year contract and NOT his requested 3 year contract ..
#nolongerfriends !

• Max Verstappen

MAX has an escape clause in his RB contract , from the moment when the RB16-B isn't competitive enough to fight for the title ...
MAX can walk whenever he wants it !
I know already from last week and from today again that MAX is the #1 as for HAM's replacement at Mercedes in 2022 !!!

• Confirmed by Christian Horner and Toto Wolff .

So my friend , probably by this we can't fight anymore in 2022 !
How about that ?

That was always in the back of my mind and it figures why the wrangling went on for so long,the one year contract, the Russell dilemma at Sakhir..it makes sense. And of course Ferrari has pots of money for HAM to become a driver or advisor w.h.y. It may happen,F1 is a cruel world.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

That was always in the back of my mind and it figures why the wrangling went on for so long,the one year contract, the Russell dilemma at AD..it makes sense. And of course Ferrari has pots of money for HAM to become a driver or advisor w.h.y. It may happen,F1 is a cruel world.

My information sources come from the Netherlands , Germany and from the Japanese at the company .
The Japanese at the company know the HONDA engineers in JAPAN and I consider this inside information accurate .

Of course during the new season the whole situation can change very quickly .But this is how it looks like currently ..
It's NOT 100% sure .But really interesting . So we'll see ...

[SenorFunkyPants]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Well my friend , if I was you ...I would throw my words in a scale !
• Lewis Hamilton
After this season HAM is done at Mercedes (90 % chance) His discussion was pretty bad with Daimler regarding his extreme contract demands .
HAM has put Daimler with their neck and back against the wall , because HAM knew that Mercedes-Daimler wants that 8th WDC and World constructors title absolutely !
That's why he got a one year contract and NOT his requested 3 year contract ..
#nolongerfriends !
• Max Verstappen
MAX has an escape clause in his RB contract , from the moment when the RB16-B isn't competitive enough to fight for the title ...
MAX can walk whenever he wants it !
I know already from last week and from today again that MAX is the #1 as for HAM's replacement at Mercedes in 2022 !!!
• Confirmed by Christian Horner and Toto Wolff .
So my friend , probably by this we can't fight anymore in 2022 !
How about that ?

I'd say that you believe any old nonsense that you read or are told.
There was never a hard requirement from Hamilton for a three year contract.
Mercedes are super happy with Hamilton and his ability to return them another world championship for 2021 and after.

Toto has Russel ahead of Verstappen for the next available place at Mercedes.
Verstappen does not have the global status that Hamilton has...Toto sees Verstappen as a poor replacement for Hamilton especially given his childish tantrums and public disrespecting of engine suppliers...in addition to his lessor abilities as a driver.

Verstappen will only be available for a place at Mercedes in 2022 if he tanks the 2021 season (or RB produce a dog of a car) and both Hamilton and Bottas retire...all of which I suspect is unlikely.

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Not posible to see that from Belgium !

But I understand completely that your S85B50 and your BMW emblem was dancing at Cota !

My S65B40 danced also several times at Francorchamps...
But also around Francorchamps pulling 8K-rpm's through the forests is awesome .

Nothing like bringing it up to the redline at full throttle with shifting at the fastest possible speed!!

These are probably two of the best engines ever manufactured in automotive history.

Keep it forever, my friend!!

The soy-boys are coming for the rest!!

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Well my friend , if I was you ...I would throw my words in a scale !

• Lewis Hamilton

After this season HAM is done at Mercedes (90 % chance) His discussion was pretty bad with Daimler regarding his extreme contract demands .
HAM has put Daimler with their neck and back against the wall , because HAM knew that Mercedes-Daimler wants that 8th WDC and World constructors title absolutely !
That's why he got a one year contract and NOT his requested 3 year contract ..
#nolongerfriends !

• Max Verstappen

MAX has an escape clause in his RB contract , from the moment when the RB16-B isn't competitive enough to fight for the title ...
MAX can walk whenever he wants it !
I know already from last week and from today again that MAX is the #1 as for HAM's replacement at Mercedes in 2022 !!!

• Confirmed by Christian Horner and Toto Wolff .

So my friend , probably by this we can't fight anymore in 2022 !
How about that ?

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

That was always in the back of my mind and it figures why the wrangling went on for so long,the one year contract, the Russell dilemma at Sakhir..it makes sense. And of course Ferrari has pots of money for HAM to become a driver or advisor w.h.y. It may happen,F1 is a cruel world.

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

My information sources come from the Netherlands , Germany and from the Japanese at the company .
The Japanese at the company know the HONDA engineers in JAPAN and I consider this inside information accurate .

Of course during the new season the whole situation can change very quickly .But this is how it looks like currently ..
It's NOT 100% sure .But really interesting . So we'll see ...

You guys are spectacularly wrong. In the case of people who trust each other in negotiations, it is very common to, "hold-in-place", with an interim contract such as the one Sir Lewis and Mercedes have consummated. What you will see for 2022 is a 2 year contract for Sir Lewis and him assuming an ambassador role, thereafter.

EVERY WIN that Sir Lewis has and every championship won has been under one brand: Mercedes Power.

There is NO WAY they will throw away that record and PR potential in a fit of pique. This is NOT the way corporate decisions are made.

They are coldly and logically made with maximum upside for the brand. VER is unknown outside of racing circles and Sir Lewis is a global brand and leader in multiple industries.

Think like Mercedes, the corporation, and not a VER fan. You will see that I am correct.

And my point of view is based on negotiating about a billion dollars in annual sales for publicly traded corporation.

Cheers-mk

[yco]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

You guys are spectacularly wrong. In the case of people who trust each other in negotiations, it is very common to, "hold-in-place", with an interim contract such as the one Sir Lewis and Mercedes have consummated. What you will see for 2022 is a 2 year contract for Sir Lewis and him assuming an ambassador role, thereafter.

EVERY WIN that Sir Lewis has and every championship won has been under one brand: Mercedes Power.

There is NO WAY they will throw away that record and PR potential in a fit of pique. This is NOT the way corporate decisions are made.

They are coldly and logically made with maximum upside for the brand. VER is unknown outside of racing circles and Sir Lewis is a global brand and leader in multiple industries.

Think like Mercedes, the corporation, and not a VER fan. You will see that I am correct.

And my point of view is based on negotiating about a billion dollars in annual sales for publicly traded corporation.

Cheers-mk

things you ve said will resonate like this unfortunately mk..

[Ngilbe36]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

After this season HAM is done at Mercedes (90 % chance) His discussion was pretty bad with Daimler regarding his extreme contract demands .
HAM has put Daimler with their neck and back against the wall , because HAM knew that Mercedes-Daimler wants that 8th WDC and World constructors title absolutely !

But I thought it was just the car?

[Steeler]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium View Post
After this season HAM is done at Mercedes (90 % chance) His discussion was pretty bad with Daimler regarding his extreme contract demands .
HAM has put Daimler with their neck and back against the wall , because HAM knew that Mercedes-Daimler wants that 8th WDC and World constructors title absolutely !

How do we all get to see this insider info. Link please.

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by Ngilbe36

But I thought it was just the car?

Uh oh!!!

You did it now!!