[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by G30M

Perez gone

Horner says Liam or Yuki will be promoted

so much uncertainty

just sign Sainz already

Sainz would be too expensive against what Lawson will get, cancelling out some of the hit to Perez pay off by the RBR accountant.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by wizardofOz

I thought that his chance might have dipped because of his finger wagging which they could see as a no no but him and Colapinto have a bright future ahead..I still think the same..

I'm sure this was pushed to the side in a second with it probably already being decided that Checo is walking and after taking in Lawson's history more.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Lawson gets the RBR seat.

"Lawson confirmed as Verstappen's Red Bull team mate for 2025"
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...qWIv9JEV7qI2Gn

Official statement by RBR:
https://www.redbullracing.com/int-en...ng-2025-charge

Tsunoda may go ballistic about RBR's choice to offer the precious RBR seat to a driver with way less F1 experience than him.

Not even less experience, he's not even a better driver. I have a theory is just good ol fashion Thai racism against the Japanese. Everyone knows Yuki is a better choice and the only thing people have to combat that is hyperbole.

-Attitude
-Honda Driver

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Sainz would be too expensive against what Lawson will get, cancelling out some of the hit to Perez pay off by the RBR accountant.

The list is long ...As you can see my friend (!)

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

Not even less experience, he's not even a better driver. I have a theory is just good ol fashion Thai racism against the Japanese. Everyone knows Yuki is a better choice and the only thing people have to combat that is hyperbole.

-Attitude
-Honda Driver

Please don't make a racial issue out of everything. Yes, Red Bull is mainly owned by Thai business people (Chaleo Yoovidhya), and, yes, Tsunoda is Japanese, and, yes, Tsunoda has a seat in a race car of the Red Bull family, and, yes, Red Bull Racing uses Japanese engines (Honda), and, yes, recently, Red Bull Racing offered Tsunoda a test session in a Red Bull Racing car.

So forget about your "Thai racism against the Japanese" conspiracy theory. In the ruthless dog-eat-dog F1 ecosysytem, it's all about performance and attitude. Being a nice guy won't save your seat if you don't deliver as expected. Strictly business: if you fail to live up to the expectations, you're shown the door (you could buy some time if you're backed by very wealthy sponsors pumping many millions into the team).

For quite some time, Tsunoda gets assistance to help remedying his anger management issues. It helps, but - judging by some of his onboard radio antics - it ain't enough. He's a good driver, but he ain't top driver material - inconsistent results.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

I'm sure this was pushed to the side in a second with it probably already being decided that Checo is walking and after taking in Lawson's history more.

Bottas

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

The list is long ...As you can see my friend (!)

That's more like it
* Liam will do his best to help secure the CT for RBR for '25.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Bottas

At least he won't be sitting at home watching Coronation Street to pass the time

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

That's more like it

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[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

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I can just about almost hear the sighs of relief from up North a bit at the RBR hq... what do you think, I'm expecting some RBR 1 -2 's at least with the up to strength team.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

I can just about almost hear the sighs of relief from up North a bit at the RBR hq... what do you think, I'm expecting some RBR 1 -2 's at least with the up to strength team.

It doesn't matter by who the KitKat man is replaced ..
The KitKat man is replaced , that matters for MAX and for the fight in the 2025 WDC and WCC.

Last night ,in the polls (votes) Yuki had the advantage with 65% vs 35% for Liam.
Liam is a fighter and has big b@lls , that matters too

EDIT : I mean , I can see a kind of fire in Liam's eyes , Carlito (Carlos Sainz) has that too ...

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Please don't make a racial issue out of everything. Yes, Red Bull is mainly owned by Thai business people (Chaleo Yoovidhya), and, yes, Tsunoda is Japanese, and, yes, Tsunoda has a seat in a race car of the Red Bull family, and, yes, Red Bull Racing uses Japanese engines (Honda), and, yes, recently, Red Bull Racing offered Tsunoda a test session in a Red Bull Racing car.

So forget about your "Thai racism against the Japanese" conspiracy theory. In the ruthless dog-eat-dog F1 ecosysytem, it's all about performance and attitude. Being a nice guy won't save your seat if you don't deliver as expected. Strictly business: if you fail to live up to the expectations, you're shown the door (you could buy some time if you're backed by very wealthy sponsors pumping many millions into the team).

For quite some time, Tsunoda gets assistance to help remedying his anger management issues. It helps, but - judging by some of his onboard radio antics - it ain't enough. He's a good driver, but he ain't top driver material - inconsistent results.

But it IS racism. I love it when people just handwave racism away as if they are experts on the subject matter.

I'm not sure how many Thai people you know, or if you know history (Japanese occupation of Thailand during WW2) but those feelings are still out there.

Liam has been racing for at least 6 years and has accomplished jackall in everything he's done. He's already been in fights/disputes with people including Checo and he was slower than Yuki.

It's also hard to say any of this is based on temperament when his is worse, and so is his driving. Checo was TERRIBLE and they keep him too long - we all agree on that. There is absolutely nothing about "merit" in this decision.

I think ultimately that Max isn't that special and he doesn't want a good teamate.

[toxik]

wonder if checo and lawson already knew this was the team's decision many weeks ago, hence their fighting and flair ups at the end of the season.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

But it IS racism. I love it when people just handwave racism away as if they are experts on the subject matter.

I'm not sure how many Thai people you know, or if you know history (Japanese occupation of Thailand during WW2) but those feelings are still out there.

Liam has been racing for at least 6 years and has accomplished jackall in everything he's done. He's already been in fights/disputes with people including Checo and he was slower than Yuki.

It's also hard to say any of this is based on temperament when his is worse, and so is his driving. Checo was TERRIBLE and they keep him too long - we all agree on that. There is absolutely nothing about "merit" in this decision.

I think ultimately that Max isn't that special and he doesn't want a good teamate.

No mate , I can't agree with that ...
MAX : I always drive my own race , my own race is always to win the race .

MAX won 4 World Titles in a row , with the help from who ?
Honestly ,I wouldn't know it , because he got zero help to achieve that (!)

[Rono63]

I wonder if the Patron truck backed up to RB and asked for their tequila back🤣😂

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

It doesn't matter by who the KitKat man is replaced ..
The KitKat man is replaced , that matters for MAX and for the fight in the 2025 WDC and WCC.

Last night ,in the polls (votes) Yuki had the advantage with 65% vs 35% for Liam.
Liam is a fighter and has big b@lls , that matters too

EDIT : I mean , I can see a kind of fire in Liam's eyes , Carlito (Carlos Sainz) has that too ...

Polls mean nothing as these things are decided in the cold light of day by team principals and RBR didn't want to make a bad mistake again.
The world championships are important but as I said I want also to see some 1-2 finishes for my favourite team as well.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

No mate , I can't agree with that ...
MAX : I always drive my own race , my own race is always to win the race .

MAX won 4 World Titles in a row , with the help from who ?
Honestly ,I wouldn't know it , because he got zero help to achieve that (!)

FIA, Massi, former MB staff, and Checo actually doing his job a few times.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

FIA, Massi, former MB staff, and Checo actually doing his job a few times.

In the last 4 years ?

That's too funny mate (!)

Let me help you...

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Polls mean nothing as these things are decided in the cold light of day by team principals and RBR didn't want to make a bad mistake again.
The world championships are important but as I said I want also to see some 1-2 finishes for my favourite team as well.

Well , that depends of Liam and his 2025 RB21 adaption skills .

But let's wait and see it first in 2025, if the RB21 is fast enough to fight with McLaren , Ferrari and Mercedes .
And if MAX is fast enough , then Liam has to prove something at that moment (!)

One thing is for sure , as a MAX teammate Liam won't get it easy at the Red Bull Team (we have seen that before)!
But I'm 100% sure , Liam will be better than the KitKat man ever was ..
That's the easy part for Liam

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Rono63

I wonder if the Patron truck backed up to RB and asked for their tequila back🤣😂

Actually , it was 'free Mexican advertising for the brand name

The 800 workers at the Red Bull factory lost at least $10-15K of WCC bonuses (!)
And with a bottle of Mexican Patron tequila , No . You can't stop that pain ..

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Actually , it was 'free Mexican advertising for the brand name

The 800 workers at the Red Bull factory lost at least $10-15K of WCC bonuses (!)
And with a bottle of Mexican Patron tequila , No . You can't stop that pain ..

I'm sure many RBR employees don't drink at all or don't like tequila.

That just means extra bottles for the alcoholics

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

I'm sure many RBR employees don't drink at all or don't like tequila.

That just means extra bottles for the alcoholics

Yeah . And MAX only drinks Gin-Tonic

Cheers my friend