[Tejas1836]

Originally Posted by Autoaddict

Calm down man. No one is a ‘hater’ here. This is a forum for expressing opinions. Take a look at the 2025 Lincoln Nautilus and its immersive panoramic display. Looks pretty damn close to what BMW presented.

Real close, down to the steering wheel

[jmg]

Originally Posted by Moopai

Is this the 2025 Tesla BUT they mistakenly used a BMW emblem. What the hell is going on with this company, every year a new Sh*t...

It's arguably better than "ever year it's the same Sh*t..."
I'd rather they try and stumble towards success than not try at all. Lets hope they continue to develop this into something great.

[BMWbiker]

Originally Posted by ledphut

I don’t know boss… been driving for quite some time without incident. I think I’ve got things under control.

This tech seems to be tailor made for drunkards or those folks who watch YouTube movies while they drive.

The computer tells all of us otherwise.

[RPM33]

Originally Posted by eddiehaug

Why is it so difficult for BMW to understand that if I wanted a Tesla experience I would buy a Tesla instead of a BMW? Or even better, a Chinese car that looks and feels like a Tesla in the UX department and almost like a BMW in the quality, but at 50% the price of a German car.

I don't know if you guys have noticed, but even the phone and nav icons are now at the bottom of the screen, something that points very clearly towards BMW getting rid of the iDrive controller as well.

Agree 100%. Dumb decision to get rid of the iDrive controller. New interior is terrible.

[RPM33]

Originally Posted by White340

Tesla really f*cked up automotive design. First the exterior shitshow and now this complete basic bitch interior.

Agree 100%.

[brianeck]

Originally Posted by jmg

It's arguably better than "ever year it's the same Sh*t..."
I'd rather they try and stumble towards success than not try at all. Lets hope they continue to develop this into something great.

But every year it is the same s*** even worse now since every car company copies the same exact styling. Spartan, tesla interior. Remove buttons. Glue on IPad. Add touc b surfaces, remove high end materials. Insert gloss black plastic all over the interior and exterior.

It's BS.

[Calamari]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

Blocks the road for visibility.
Buttons for ergonomics.
This isn’t hard to understand…!

I can’t tell you how aggravating it is to find the recirc button, for example, and for some reason BMW has evolved their HVAC to turn off the recirc multiple times in a 10 mile commute with many diesel trucks and busses. I find the screen distracting but have learned to live with it. The recirc thing makes my blood boil almost on a daily basis. It’s three taps on the screen when it used to literally be on the steering wheel.

This is the biggest complaint on iDrive 8 for me too. I've solved it in the following manner: I added shortcuts for Recirculation and Auto-Recirculation to the swipe-down drawer. Drawer can be opened by nudgning the iDrive rotary controller forward. Then i just press on the rotary controller because the first shortcut in the drawer is set to Air-Recirculation.
When I want to disable it, I do the same thing and select the second shortcut.

It still bothers me that there is no visible indicator that shows current state of air-recirculation once you return to home screen. There isn't even one on the Climate Control screen. As User Interfaces and User Experience is my domain of expertise, I find all of this utterly ridiculous.

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by Calamari

This is the biggest complaint on iDrive 8 for me too. I've solved it in the following manner: I added shortcuts for Recirculation and Auto-Recirculation to the swipe-down drawer. Drawer can be opened by nudgning the iDrive rotary controller forward. Then i just press on the rotary controller because the first shortcut in the drawer is set to Air-Recirculation.
When I want to disable it, I do the same thing and select the second shortcut.

It still bothers me that there is on visible indicator of state of air-recirculation once you return to home screen. There isn't even one on the Climate Control screen. As User Experience is my domain of expertise, I find all of this utterly ridiculous.

I can’t save it as a shortcut. How do you do that? I’ve tried the old method of clicking and hold. Thanks for your help

[dZine]

We recently bought a 21 X5 xDrive40i CPO fully loaded and it's been an absolute pleasure to drive and own. The quality of the materials and the pre LCI screen setup is perfect in my opinion. The painfully obvious cost cutting started in 2022 models and never stopped!

[Calamari]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

I can’t save it as a shortcut. How do you do that? I’ve tried the old method of clicking and hold. Thanks for your help

You can't long press on the item that opens Air-recirculation menu to create shortcut that shows the entire air-recirculation menu, but you can create shortcuts for individual presets within the Air-recirculation menu, if you get what i mean.

When you open the air-rec menu, there are 3 presets. You can perform long press on the "Air-Recirculation" item to add it to shortcuts, and long press on the Auto-recirculation item. Place the first item in the first shortcut slot (top-left position in the swipe-down drawer) to be able to quickly close the air intake via idrive controler action sequence: NUDGE FORWARD (opens drop.down drawer) and PRESS(presses on first shortcut).
And second shortcut is automatic recirculation for when you want to enable automatic air-intake when you're back in the clear air environment.

[LuisBoston]

The more I think about this iDrive X, the more I see that its just the next iteration of 8 and 9.

The only real new thing is replacing the driver instrument screen with the 5" projection at the base of the windshield and extending it across.

The tacked on center screen (even the shape) and HUD are just evolutions of what we have now.

This is not much ado about anything, IMO.

[kudos]

How much more weight is all this crap going to add?

[Cortexiphan]

Originally Posted by techwhiz1

Actually what I mean is removing information from directly in front of the driver.

BMW Panoramic Vision – a Head-Up Display concept newly developed by BMW for projecting content – reflects visible information from A-pillar to A-pillar onto a black printed surface in the lower section of the windscreen. This information is visible to all occupants.
The most important driving information is projected directly into the driver's line of sight on the left-hand side of the BMW Panoramic Vision (in left-hand-drive cars), above the steering wheel. The driver can personalise the content in the central and right-hand areas of the BMW Panoramic Vision via the central display. The integration of the BMW Panoramic Vision creates a 3D effect for the driver and passengers.

[Cortexiphan]

Originally Posted by Autoaddict

Calm down man. No one is a ‘hater’ here. This is a forum for expressing opinions. Take a look at the 2025 Lincoln Nautilus and its immersive panoramic display. Looks pretty damn close to what BMW presented.

No it's not. What Lincoln has is an LCD screen.
That's closer to what BMW has NOW.

BMW Panoramic Vision – a Head-Up Display concept newly developed by BMW for projecting content – reflects visible information from A-pillar to A-pillar onto a black printed surface in the lower section of the windscreen. This information is visible to all occupants.
The most important driving information is projected directly into the driver's line of sight on the left-hand side of the BMW Panoramic Vision (in left-hand-drive cars), above the steering wheel. The driver can personalise the content in the central and right-hand areas of the BMW Panoramic Vision via the central display. The integration of the BMW Panoramic Vision creates a 3D effect for the driver and passengers.

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by kudos

How much more weight is all this crap going to add?

1000 KG

[Cortexiphan]

Originally Posted by kudos

How much more weight is all this crap going to add?

It will likely take away some weight due to much smaller LCD screen.

[ledphut]

Originally Posted by BMWbiker

The computer tells all of us otherwise.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by brianeck

But every year it is the same s*** even worse now since every car company copies the same exact styling. Spartan, tesla interior. Remove buttons. Glue on IPad. Add touc b surfaces, remove high end materials. Insert gloss black plastic all over the interior and exterior.

It's BS.

Trends in car design have always been a thing. That’s why we should take notice when there are deviations which could start new trends. The HUD looks like a deviation that could be interesting. Personnaly, I like the “glue on iPad” look. It creates less visual mass and isn’t trying to hide a rectangular screen in a round hole like the E90 interior tried. It looks very early 2000’s.

[restloy]

When a rock chips my windshield right now, I don’t need to replace the gauge cluster. Glad BMW has this figured out now. /s

Seriously in my 2022 G05 I have a rock chip dead center of where the info bar is on this demo. Rather than drop over $3k to get it fixed I’d just assume avoid this user interface altogether. This looks sloppy with the big dash and stupid wheel anyway.

I guess I’ll just move on to bro dozers. No chance that segment gets buttons taken away.

[BMWbiker]

Originally Posted by ledphut

I don’t know boss… been driving for quite some time without incident. I think I’ve got things under control.

People often say and think that—until they cause a crash and kill someone.

The computer is giving you a message. It’s doing its job. You’re ignoring it, at your peril and those around you.

[BMWbiker]

Originally Posted by jmg

Trends in car design have always been a thing. That’s why we should take notice when there are deviations which could start new trends. The HUD looks like a deviation that could be interesting. Personnaly, I like the “glue on iPad” look. It creates less visual mass and isn’t trying to hide a rectangular screen in a round hole like the E90 interior tried. It looks very early 2000’s.

I’m a bit surprised that electronic screens haven’t yet been integrated more smoothly into car interiors.

Here’s an analogy from BMW Motorrad.

BMW motorcycles all used to have a discrete gas tank between the legs, and no fairing. Then in 1974 BMW introduced the R90S, with a handlebar fairing. Then there was the 1977 R100RS, then the R100RT, which had frame mounted fairings that flowed into the still-discrete gas tank. But it wasn’t until decades later when the bodywork was integrated with the rest of the motorcycle, instead of being obvious bolt-ons, and other changes were made such as relocating the gas tank to a new location (on some models).

I’m not a designer. I don’t know what should change in cars. But it seems odd that all cars still have the “iPad-on-the-dashboard” look, decades after the introduction of digital screens. Even this iDrive X maintains the screen on the dash, even as it cleverly integrates additional information at the base of the windshield.

[leocce]

tesla 2.0