A car that everybody should hate is now beating records

BimmerMat135 · 04-24-2017, 09:47 AM

Your typical type r is now as quick as an Audi R8 V10.

mkoesel · 04-24-2017, 09:50 AM

I don't get it. Why should everybody hate it?

BimmerMat135 · 04-24-2017, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mkoesel

I don't get it. Why should everybody hate it?

On other forum and on YouTube you should see the kind of hate associated with the type r: Rice mobile, crappy Honda, lawnmower with a wing etc. etc.

GOLFFRR · 04-24-2017, 10:02 AM

that is fast!

I remember when I was really young I wanted a yellow integra type R so bad. one of the kids on my block had one and it was to me at the time so cool

///M Power-Belgium · 04-24-2017, 10:10 AM

I'm 100% sure this Type R is not stock !

mkoesel · 04-24-2017, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

On other forum and on YouTube you should see the kind of hate associated with the type r: Rice mobile, crappy Honda, lawnmower with a wing etc. etc.

Sure, that's no secret. Certainly anyone who pays attention to the enthusiast community understands that dynamic.

I just didn't understand why you in particular thought that "everybody should hate" this car?

Germanauto · 04-24-2017, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

On other forum and on YouTube you should see the kind of hate associated with the type r: Rice mobile, crappy Honda, lawnmower with a wing etc. etc.

Likely a bunch of 15 yr olds as well as the Subaru/VW Monster energy drinking, fast food eating, vaping, poor hygiene crowd.

BimmerMat135 · 04-24-2017, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mkoesel

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Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

On other forum and on YouTube you should see the kind of hate associated with the type r: Rice mobile, crappy Honda, lawnmower with a wing etc. etc.

Sure, that's no secret. Certainly anyone who pays attention to the enthusiast community understands that dynamic.

I just didn't understand why you in particular thought that "everybody should hate" this car?

It was a "joke" considering what I read about it. Personally I highly respect this car, I don't like the look of it but the final result is there. In Canada it's going to cost about the same as a golf r, but it will offer you a faster and much more track focused car. I think that for the money you can't find any other equivalent blend of performance/usability in the car industry.

Red Bread · 04-24-2017, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

I'm 100% sure this Type R is not stock !

Roll cage and non standard tires with the rear seats and stereo removed to "offset" the weight of the roll cage. Silly.

Ric in RVA · 04-24-2017, 10:35 AM

Bet those front tires are cooked after one lap. So much understeer.

What is with the choppy steering input on corner in? A FWD thing? Or bumpsteer?

///M Power-Belgium · 04-24-2017, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Bread

Roll cage and non standard tires with the rear seats and stereo removed to "offset" the weight of the roll cage. Silly.

Personal I think there was more and not in the picture, because it looks extremely fast !

Brakes ?
Suspension ?
Boost of the turbos ?
Ect...

mkoesel · 04-24-2017, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

It was a "joke" considering what I read about it. Personally I highly respect this car, I don't like the look of it but the final result is there.

I see. As you mention, with all the negativity toward Honda and FWD hot hatches, it wasn't clear to me that you were trying to be sarcastic. I thought maybe you were just trying to rile people up and start a big "dump on the new Civic Type R" hate thread.

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In Canada it's going to cost about the same as a golf r, but it will offer you a faster and much more track focused car. I think that for the money you can't find any other equivalent blend of performance/usability in the car industry.

Not sure I'd agree with the last statement, however, I agree this is an attractive offering.

TSM330i · 04-24-2017, 10:58 AM

The performance of this car isn't the problem at all. That is one hell of a fast lap, beating the GTI Clubsport S by 4 seconds. I'm sure it is a stellar driving experience.

The problem is the looks. I couldn't imagine driving a car that looks like that every day. I'm 47 years old and would be a bit embarrassed getting out of it at a client. The size of the rear wing is stupid and the tacky body, while I'm sure is functional, is not pleasing to the eye at all.

It's just a matter of taste. The people this car appeals to the most, can't afford it or can't even drive.

MalibuBimmer · 04-24-2017, 11:02 AM

274 MPH top speed on the final straight. Damn impressive. But it's ugly as sin.

Red Bread · 04-24-2017, 11:05 AM

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274 MPH top speed on the final straight. Damn impressive. But it's ugly as sin.

I assume you mean kph? If not, Honda has some serious magic.

Red Bread · 04-24-2017, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TSM330i

The performance of this car isn't the problem at all. That is one hell of a fast lap, beating the GTI Clubsport S by 4 seconds. I'm sure it is a stellar driving experience.

The problem is the looks. I couldn't imagine driving a car that looks like that every day. I'm 47 years old and would be a bit embarrassed getting out of it at a client. The size of the rear wing is stupid and the tacky body, while I'm sure is functional, is not pleasing to the eye at all.

It's just a matter of taste. The people this car appeals to the most, can't afford it or can't even drive.

Reminds me of the guy on Better Call Saul who takes care of Jimmy's brother and drives an Evo with the big wing and rear wiper. So hard to take people in a suit driving an Evo, STi or similar seriously.

3GFX · 04-24-2017, 11:09 AM

It's always been an impressive car.

You need to think of the Type R as a different car.

The evolution lancer vs the regular lancer.

IndotagSwizz · 04-24-2017, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TSM330i

The performance of this car isn't the problem at all. That is one hell of a fast lap, beating the GTI Clubsport S by 4 seconds. I'm sure it is a stellar driving experience.

The problem is the looks. I couldn't imagine driving a car that looks like that every day. I'm 47 years old and would be a bit embarrassed getting out of it at a client. The size of the rear wing is stupid and the tacky body, while I'm sure is functional, is not pleasing to the eye at all.

It's just a matter of taste. The people this car appeals to the most, can't afford it or can't even drive.

highly doubt you are in the demographic the car is intended for

Eau_Rouge111 · 04-24-2017, 11:18 AM

No wonder it broke records...look at the cover shot...it's the Stig driving it!

MalibuBimmer · 04-24-2017, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Bread

I assume you mean kph? If not, Honda has some serious magic.

Ah. Of course you're right. I was thinking American!

Z K · 04-24-2017, 11:59 AM

I'm pretty sure it will cost the same as a Golf R or Focus RS when it arrives in the USA. I know it's AWD vs FWD so it's not a direct competitor in driving experience but price wise they are competitors.

If it were $30k, I can see this being a great offering. At $40k, it's a hard sell.

david in germany · 04-24-2017, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MalibuBimmer

274 MPH top speed on the final straight. Damn impressive. But it's ugly as sin.

Kph
I did that on the way home from work today..

Maybe I should post a clip from my dash cam.

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