[KevinC]

TL;DW: He likes the G87 exterior design more than when he first toyed with it, it has grown on him. Still hates the way the giant screen is tacked to the dash like an afterthought...

[mtoosexy]

i watched this video a while back and could only get through the first minute or so
automatic and awd vs manual and rwd
is there any more comparison needed?
I am an audi fanboi!!!! but since they dont offer "fun" options anymore... i will go with something else

[Rx-7ames]

Originally Posted by KevinC

TL;DW: He likes the G87 exterior design more than when he first toyed with it, it has grown on him. Still hates the way the giant screen is tacked to the dash like an afterthought...

It absolutely was an afterthought. The dash was designed for iDrive 7 and looks great. And now with iDrive 8? Ugh. Looks pretty bad. But I'm not going to turn it down.

My dealership had an M3 client that backed out of his 2023 M3 order after he saw the dash
I he ended up buying a 2023 M4 from another dealer. I wouldn't go to that extreme.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Rx-7ames

It absolutely was an afterthought. The dash was designed for iDrive 7 and looks great. And now with iDrive 8? Ugh. Looks pretty bad. But I'm not going to turn it down.

My dealership had an M3 client that backed out of his 2023 M3 order after he saw the dash
I he ended up buying a 2023 M4 from another dealer. I wouldn't go to that extreme.

Dont know how it will look in person but comparatively I really like the i8 big screen on my '23 G42 M240. To each their own, I guess.

[T_U_D]

FYI, This video was posted many months ago.

[KevinC]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

Dont know how it will look in person but comparatively I really like the i8 big screen on my '23 G42 M240. To each their own, I guess.

Definitely a polarizing feature, but BMW isn't stupid, there are plenty of customers who want this stuff, probably exceeding the old grinders like myself who prefer iDrive 6 or 7 and their smaller displays. I'd be much more likely to tolerate iDrive 8 if the gauge cluster display was more configurable, offering some conventional round dials as an option, as almost everybody else does. Why BMW insists on making it look like a video game is a head-scratcher to me. Super simple to add more options and broaden the appeal.

[Rx-7ames]

Originally Posted by KevinC

Definitely a polarizing feature, but BMW isn't stupid, there are plenty of customers who want this stuff, probably exceeding the old grinders like myself who prefer iDrive 6 or 7 and their smaller displays. I'd be much more likely to tolerate iDrive 8 if the gauge cluster display was more configurable, offering some conventional round dials as an option, as almost everybody else does. Why BMW insists on making it look like a video game is a head-scratcher to me. Super simple to add more options and broaden the appeal.

Totally agree. There's no reason why we can't choose exactly what our display looks like.

[LTJohn]

I loved the early, integrated dash in the M3, and it had just as much info coming from it.

Also, the finishing and stitching of the binnacle over the driver display had an expensive "cockpit" feel. I've always hated the laziness of the "iPad on the Dash" that became fashionable over the years and now we've advanced to have a huge computer monitor tacked on with pegs.

Note too, that it removes many cost constraints that good design imposes. The new mustang has an identical display for $30K less...but you are not going to see the Mclaren dash in a mustang. It costs a bundle to manufacture and install integrated displays.

Still like the car, and like most, will get over it, but it still disappoints.

[zero21]

Originally Posted by LTJohn

I loved the early, integrated dash in the M3, and it had just as much info coming from it.

Also, the finishing and stitching of the binnacle over the driver display had an expensive "cockpit" feel. I've always hated the laziness of the "iPad on the Dash" that became fashionable over the years and now we've advanced to have a huge computer monitor tacked on with pegs.

Note too, that it removes many cost constraints that good design imposes. The new mustang has an identical display for $30K less...but you are not going to see the Mclaren dash in a mustang. It costs a bundle to manufacture and install integrated displays.

Still like the car, and like most, will get over it, but it still disappoints.

With the rate of tech advancement, modularity is actually a key design indicator of well engineered products IMO.

[ronin13013]

People hated the double hump in the e92 M3 and opted out of I drive just to avoid it. I get it but I dont mind.

Originally Posted by zero21

With the rate of tech advancement, modularity is actually a key design indicator of well engineered products IMO.