One week from today... (G87 M2 embargo ends this Sunday, April 2nd)

Tag · 03-26-2023, 11:54 AM

G87 M2 embargo will finally be lifted one week from today!

All the questions on how this car performs will finally get answered. I'm looking forward to how the M2 compares to the M3/4. It looks like it's going to be quite a bit more playful than its big brothers.

BRAKE! · 03-26-2023, 01:47 PM

I predict that it will be highly praised for its driving dynamics. Extremely fast. More stable than it’s predecessor, but more playful than it’s older siblings. Oversteer control is intuitive. Manual offers good engagement but feels a little rubbery. Idrive 8 doesn’t look good but interior is a step up from F87.

T_U_D · 03-26-2023, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BRAKE!

I predict that it will be highly praised for its driving dynamics. Extremely fast. More stable than it’s predecessor, but more playful than it’s older siblings. Oversteer control is intuitive. Manual offers good engagement but feels a little rubbery. Idrive 8 doesn’t look good but interior is a step up from F87.

Fairly spot on.

Tag · 03-26-2023, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BRAKE!

I predict that it will be highly praised for its driving dynamics. Extremely fast. More stable than it’s predecessor, but more playful than it’s older siblings. Oversteer control is intuitive. Manual offers good engagement but feels a little rubbery. Idrive 8 doesn’t look good but interior is a step up from F87.

I predict the closest comparison to its driving dynamics will be the F87 M2CS.

cmgbk75 · 03-26-2023, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tag

I predict the closest comparison to its driving dynamics will be the F87 M2CS.

I second that emotion.

T_U_D · 03-26-2023, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tag

I predict the closest comparison to its driving dynamics will be the F87 M2CS.

It is nearly impossible to argue with that.

BRAKE! · 03-26-2023, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by T_U_D

It is fairly rare that a German automotive manufacturer takes away anything from a Japanese automotive manufacturer’s playbook. One exception comes to mind, when Porsche had Toyota come in and help them with their manufacturing process several decades ago.

They seem to be a very pragmatic bunch - I'm sure if there are things that can be taken to their advantage, they'll be happy to do so without letting their ego get in the way. What they also need to learn from Toyota is serviceability without having to take the damn engine out.

Game · 03-26-2023, 06:50 PM

Most looking forward to the throttle house review especially since they just drove the Emira.

MmmmmM2 · 03-26-2023, 09:52 PM

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Most looking forward to the throttle house review especially since they just drove the Emira.

Yeah since James has one on order. I wonder if he will change his mind?

Ctothej · 03-26-2023, 11:16 PM

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Most looking forward to the throttle house review especially since they just drove the Emira.

Carwow and Joe Achilles too.

BMWGirlFL · 03-26-2023, 11:33 PM

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atl_1M · 03-26-2023, 11:59 PM

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Genuine question. What are you alluding to with this comparison? I checked the g80 6MT gear ratios and they’re the same also.

JustinHEMI · 03-27-2023, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Game

Most looking forward to the throttle house review especially since they just drove the Emira.

I'm looking forward to Schmee's.

Not.

BMWGirlFL · 03-27-2023, 12:29 AM

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Genuine question. What are you alluding to with this comparison? I checked the g80 6MT gear ratios and they’re the same also.

Hard to articulate. My sense is few details have been shared about the collaboration with Toyota. Wondering what, if anything, this Supra similarity might suggest.

Xspeedracer · 03-27-2023, 01:31 AM

Looking to see Misha Charoudin’s review on the Ring

YoItsMannyBruh · 03-27-2023, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JustinHEMI

I'm looking forward to Schmee's.

Not.

Supercar blondie duh

MR_M2 · 03-27-2023, 03:13 AM

Standard car journalist stuff:
- over xxx pounds, but M engineers have managed to hide the weight
- better ride quality than the outgoing model
- exceptional engine
- no dct but zf is smoother
- read the options and prices
Oh, and dead steering.

Did I miss anything?

10" · 03-27-2023, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MR_M2

Standard car journalist stuff:
- over xxx pounds, but M engineers have managed to hide the weight
- better ride quality than the outgoing model
- exceptional engine
- no dct but zf is smoother
- read the options and prices
Oh, and dead steering.

Did I miss anything?

Well said. 95% of press reviews are generic scripted nonsense regurgitating company talking points and press release fact sheets zzzzzz

zero21 · 03-27-2023, 08:07 AM

Six days from today!

tracer bullet · 03-27-2023, 08:42 AM

Interested in the Savagegeese review as well as some of the others mentioned earlier.

Hope to see some back to back comparisons against the Supra and Nissan Z, maybe the Z4 as well. May sound like some unlikely cross shoppers in there but with 3 of the 4 having an I6 and the 4th a strong V6, and 3 of 4 being available with a stick (in theory the Z4 may have it someday, potentially from either the Supra or M2)...

BMWGirlFL · 03-27-2023, 09:16 AM

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Interested in the Savagegeese review as well as some of the others mentioned earlier.

Hope to see some back to back comparisons against the Supra and Nissan Z, maybe the Z4 as well. May sound like some unlikely cross shoppers in there but with 3 of the 4 having an I6 and the 4th a strong V6, and 3 of 4 being available with a stick (in theory the Z4 may have it someday, potentially from either the Supra or M2)...

Manual Z4 expected to start production 3/2024. FUN car. I'm partial to the smaller size and prefer BMW over Toyota servicing.

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In case you think this is a production car, look at the I-Level.

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