[MediaArtist]

Originally Posted by MiddleAgedAl

You think the NRA doesnt use the fear, sensationalism, and emotion to motivate their own people and swell membership ?

Who cares about the NRA? Is anyone here representing the NRA?

Another straw man.

[bosstones]

Originally Posted by MiddleAgedAl

Haven't spent much time reading most of what I've written in the Politics and religion thread, huh? Talk about people whose opinion has credibility issues....

I tend to lurk there but rarely post since there are a few persons that typically tend to get the threads closed. Lots of both extremes and not so much in the middle in P&R. Except for some of the gun control topic, I tend to agree with you and I would agree that you are not a liberal. If nothing else, though, you are at least able to debate/exchange viewpoints without jumping to extremes, profanity, and/or name calling. Thank you for that.

[Mr Tonka]

Originally Posted by bosstones

I tend to lurk there but rarely post since there are a few persons that typically tend to get the threads closed. Lots of both extremes and not so much in the middle in P&R. Except for some of the gun control topic, I tend to agree with you and I would agree that you are not a liberal. If nothing else, though, you are at least able to debate/exchange viewpoints without jumping to extremes, profanity, and/or name calling. Thank you for that.

If i had to guess i would say that Al is fiscally conservative and some what liberal when it comes to social issues, but still close to the middle socially.

And yes, civil debates from different view points is typically what opens minds that have a tendencies to be closed. It is appreciated.

[Nate4641]

Originally Posted by MP0WER

And yes, civil debates from different view points is typically what opens minds that have a tendencies to be closed. It is appreciated.

Now lets see if we can get the media on both sides of the issue to do the same. I hate watching the news where they poll people on if they want more gun control and the only answers are yes and no. It isn't that simple. Yes I want some new regulations or laws, but certainly not all of them. It isn't that cut and dry and if thats how the law writers will treat it, then we will get some good and some bad laws out of this when they throw everything in the pot at the same time.

[Nate4641]

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...ional/W2KLT6t8

Get your vote in.

[bimmerjph]

Sen. Greg Ball summed it up perfectly, "We haven't saved any lives tonight, except one: the political life of a governor who wants to be president."

[ZJP]

Steve McLaughlin is one of the very few intelligent people we have left in NY.

[montreal red]

this just means law abiding citizens who follow the rules will have less bullets to fight the thugs who wont give a shit about what the 'legal' bullet count in NY is.

[solefald]

Originally Posted by ZJP

Steve McLaughlin is one of the very few intelligent people we have left in NY.

They are allowed 2 15 minute slots to make their point. Here is the first one:

[sjk9671]

Originally Posted by solefald

They are allowed 2 15 minute slots to make their point. Here is the first one:

He spoke at the rally in Albany on Sat. He was great.

Another great one to look up is Sen Greg Ball.