[Quick6EF]

Originally Posted by ken1137

I couldn't resist....Ummm...your first sentence and your second sentence was taken as a personal attack. If you read my first post I emphasize calorie intake v burning. What are you a "nutritionist"? Macronutrient !?

Why cut steak?
A 6-oz steak delivers about 40+ grams of fat and about 16 gr of them saturated. A salmon has about 18 gr of fat and only 4 gr of them saturated but just about the same amount of protein (salmon a bit less of course).
Why cut sugar in processed foods?
Combined with carbs and complex carbs your body will store these as FAT if you do not burn them off.

Yes, the debate about gaining muscle versus burning fat (?) Personally I have gained about 15% strength over the past few weeks, thus muscle has grown as I have lost a total of 20 lbs. One must provide the body with the appropriate nutrients to grow your muscles...balancing act between carbs and proteins.

PS...I am not going to site resources b/c I am not writing a Term Paper. My recommendations are based on my experiences and with coaches and trainers.

I liked your first sentence, that is why I said you should have just kept it at that.

I still don't see the point you're making about steak.

No, I'm not a nutritionist, I just learned what is correct and what has been debunked.

Combined with carbs and complex carbs your body will store these as FAT if you do not burn them off.

A caloric surplus will result in fat gain, not specific foods - your post was wrong.


I know it's not a term paper, but its important to state facts, not just your wonky suggestions that give newbies the wrong practices. It's obvious you have nothing to site because you are not writing anything factual.


Don't take it the wrong way that I'm chopping your posts up. I'm only trying to make sure the OPs get the proper advice.

[ken1137]

Originally Posted by Quick6EF

I know it's not a term paper, but its important to state facts, not just your wonky suggestions that give newbies the wrong practices. It's obvious you have nothing to site because you are not writing anything factual.

Don't take it the wrong way that I'm chopping your posts up. I'm only trying to make sure the OPs get the proper advice.

It's all about helping people and you are just a negative person that is very condescending in your remarks and not even a nutritionist. You've also hijacked this thread to blast me so have a good day and keep spreading your wealth of knowledge. Cheers

[Echo M3]

Originally Posted by ken1137

I couldn't resist....Ummm...your first sentence and your second sentence was taken as a personal attack. If you read my first post I emphasize calorie intake v burning. What are you a "nutritionist"? Macronutrient !?

Why cut steak?
A 6-oz steak delivers about 40+ grams of fat and about 16 gr of them saturated. A salmon has about 18 gr of fat and only 4 gr of them saturated but just about the same amount of protein (salmon a bit less of course).

Why cut sugar in processed foods?
Combined with carbs and complex carbs your body will store these as FAT if you do not burn them off.

Yes, the debate about gaining muscle versus burning fat (?) Personally I have gained about 15% strength over the past few weeks, thus muscle has grown as I have lost a total of 20 lbs. One must provide the body with the appropriate nutrients to grow your muscles...balancing act between carbs and proteins.

PS...I am not going to site resources b/c I am not writing a Term Paper. My recommendations are based on my experiences and with coaches and trainers.

Your body can store most fats, proteins, and carbohydrates as fat. Whether your body does so or not depends upon your caloric intake, your basal metabolic rate, insulin/glucagon levels, etc -> which I think you are alluding to.

I personally lean towards minimizing fat and cholesterol intake, in order to maintain my cardiovascular health. The reasons for this are self-explanatory.

Also, certain carbohydrates, such as fructose (found in many processed foods) have some association to diabetes and obesity. The most recent study ("Ferder, L., Ferder, M. D., & Inserra, F. (2010). The Role of High-Fructose Corn Syrup in Metabolic Syndrome and Hypertension") suggests that fructose inhibits insulin release, leading to obesity. This is a hot topic of research, though.

Just infusing a bit of medical knowledge to the discussion.

[Quick6EF]

Originally Posted by ken1137

It's all about helping people and you are just a negative person that is very condescending in your remarks and not even a nutritionist. You've also hijacked this thread to blast me so have a good day and keep spreading your wealth of knowledge. Cheers

I have to be a nutritionist to tell you you're wrong? That's funny.

Helping people with correct advice is more important than giving them a mix of "what has worked for me is...".


I didn't hijack anything, I tried to get this thread in right direction by telling those following to take your advice lightly

[smokinHawk]

funny how i debated another guy how total calorie intake had nothing to do with fat storage, that it was all hormonal, meaning the types of food you ate, and you at the other extreme that types of food have nothing to do with fat storage, its all calorie related.
my belief is that it is in the middle of the two that both have factors in fat storage. lol.

[Quick6EF]

Originally Posted by smokinHawk

funny how i debated another guy how total calorie intake had nothing to do with fat storage, that it was all hormonal, meaning the types of food you ate, and you at the other extreme that types of food have nothing to do with fat storage, its all calorie related.
my belief is that it is in the middle of the two that both have factors in fat storage. lol.

To an extent i agree. You need proper micronutrients in your diet. I support a diet of 95% whole foods ie not processed.

Everything in moderation - keep in mind one pop-tart or small McDonalds french fries (while fitting it into your calories and macros) is not going to ruin your progress.

Does that make my stance a bit more clear?

[Handozizle]

Go to www.bodybuilding.com and look up some information there. There's everything you need to know about fitness and nutrition on that site. Most of the info will be from professionals with a degree to back it up, so it's not just a bunch of bro-science. That's where i received all the info for my current meal plan.

[okusa]

I've been using this with great results: http://www.lookcut.com/

Takes all the thinking and measuring out of the equation.

[Chriskm3]

Originally Posted by TSiggs

We talking whey protein? I've thought of that since I want to maximize my weight lifting and don't think I'm getting enough protein.

You can't I both at the same time. First increase your cardo to latest 45mins per day and decrease your calorie intake. Two months you should have a great 6 pack. Then you can switch up diets and go to gain weight. It's very tricky because if you add too much carbs fats into your diat to gain good size you may gain fat again. Therefore maintaining a cardio routine as part of regular workout is the key. Do not believe 1:1 ratio of carb to protein unless you are competitor and or juicer. Add shakes to your low card diet and you will be fine.
It's easy to gain weight. But it's hard to gain good weight. Good luck

[platnumdesi01]

I have a personal trainer, he suggests also eating till your comfy and not over eating.

[exotics4life]

salad

[Ajerthan]

Pasta, Chicken Breast & Veg.

Steak & Veg.

Can of tuna.

[M5Rlz]

Supplements hard work and tons of water the ultimate bro advice

[druu]

cooking spray + egg whites + vegies/lean meat in an omelet.

Sometimes a little low fat cheese.

salt/pepper/ketchup/hotsauce to add flavor.

Its a lot less monotonous than a sandwich and provides you a low cal (due to cooking spray and not oil) hearty meal.

For me its usually like 6 eggs whites, 4 oz lean grilled chicken breast, and some combination of onions, peppers, broc, spinach etc. This can easily be under 500 calories and keep you quite full. Cheese in moderation if you're feeling bored by it.