Forum member "dren01" wants to buy my car....scam?

Crawlings · 10-10-2007, 07:08 PM

Recently a forum member by the name of dren01 PM'd me in regards to my 2004 M3 for sale. He claims to be out of state on business and says he will pay via a bank transfer and then have a shipping company come pick up the car.

He hasn't even requested to see the car in person or anything. Does this sound fishy to anyone? Has something like this happened to anyone in the past or heard of something similar?

If I just give him my checking account number and routing information, there is no harm that he can do with that correct? He would need that to make a funds transfer. And then once the money is in my account and I verify it with the bank on the phone, he is good to have the shiping company come pick up the car, correct?

I need some advice on this one.

Thanks,
Chad

PS. He just joined the forums, sent me a PM, and then either got banned or deleted his account. That's a strange point as well.

MadDog · 10-10-2007, 07:15 PM

Sounds fishy to me. I wouldn't send anyone my bank info that I didn't contact first.

Edit: And why would he buy your car sight unseen ??

nmulax · 10-10-2007, 07:16 PM

dude, don't give some random person your checking account and routing info.

sounds like a total scam; and the fact that he's no longer on the board is even sketchier.

tinobw · 10-10-2007, 07:32 PM

this is what gonna happen;

He (buyer) will ask you to create external account on your checking account, so your account have access sending/receiving money to his account, which actually not even his account. Money transfered to your account from that somebody bank account, you got the money in your account. In a couple of days, the bank denied the transfer, because unauthorized transfer. And pull back the money, if you already cashed out, your account become minus balance.

FrankoQ · 10-10-2007, 10:59 PM

do not release your information.

ejazbmw · 10-10-2007, 11:05 PM

not unless you want someone dipping in your back account....

TurboFan · 10-11-2007, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crawlings

Recently a forum member by the name of dren01 PM'd me in regards to my 2004 M3 for sale. He claims to be out of state on business and says he will pay via a bank transfer and then have a shipping company come pick up the car.

He hasn't even requested to see the car in person or anything. Does this sound fishy to anyone? Has something like this happened to anyone in the past or heard of something similar?

If I just give him my checking account number and routing information, there is no harm that he can do with that correct? He would need that to make a funds transfer. And then once the money is in my account and I verify it with the bank on the phone, he is good to have the shiping company come pick up the car, correct?

I need some advice on this one.

Thanks,
Chad

PS. He just joined the forums, sent me a PM, and then either got banned or deleted his account. That's a strange point as well.

With that info, he can also drain your account. Don't do it.

Kiemyster · 10-11-2007, 12:58 AM

so.... ur common sense never came into play? def. dont do it. tell him to go suck himself.

i dont want u to get scammed.... thats the worst feeling in the world. trust me.

toofasttooslow · 10-11-2007, 01:04 AM

Fuck no don't do it. There is a relatively new crime sydicate going around and using account information to draw up counterfeit checks. They then use the counterfeit checks (with your account and abr numbers on them) to buy goods (mostly via ecomm)and fund various nefarious entities. Guess what happens after they are done cleaning out your checking account? YOU are liable for all of the overdrafts! If he was serious he could Western Union the money to you but for God's sake don't give him your acct/abr #'s. Also if the mods have his IP they should report it here: http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/ FBI won't investigate crimes under 20k unless they're violent, but the ic3 has established ties with the private sector and will notifiy the industry of pertinent information such as IP's, types of scams, etc.

Kiemyster · 10-11-2007, 01:07 AM

yeah. tell him to western union it. nothing can go wrong there lol

toofasttooslow · 10-11-2007, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiemyster

yeah. tell him to western union it. nothing can go wrong there lol

No, actually things can go wrong there too but at least you have the option of having the cash in hand before you ship the thing. If you want to be a tard and ship it before you get cash in hand then yeah things can go wrong. As the seller you are in control however. As long as you get the cash in your hands you're good to go. In any case you can get screwed no matter what type of currency you accept - including greenbacks. Try depositing 10grand worth of counterfeit 20's into your account some time

stooken · 10-11-2007, 11:31 AM

there's plenty of ways to protect yourself with a bank wire transfer but the fact that he's a new member and no longer active would make me feel uneasy.

i've conducted plenty of online transactions with people through bank wire transfers only because i worked at a bank for 5 years so i know how it works. it's probably one of the safest ways if not the safest. i just opened a separate free checking account thats not linked to other accounts for overdraft. not linked to any check cards/atms. if the account is not in use, it's always at a zero balance.

GreddyBoy858 · 10-11-2007, 11:40 AM

No way man...

E90SLAM · 10-11-2007, 11:44 AM

I think you can report this to the FBI regards to phishing scams.

533ogetnom · 10-11-2007, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crawlings

If I just give him my checking account number and routing information, there is no harm that he can do with that correct?

wait...

wait...

no wait, SERIOUSLY

can we please get a smiley that illustrates the /sigh and shaking of the head

OhhaiAlex · 10-11-2007, 05:55 PM

sounds fishy = fishy

Dont do it

stooken · 10-11-2007, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 533ogetnom

wait...

wait...

no wait, SERIOUSLY

can we please get a smiley that illustrates the /sigh and shaking of the head

use this one

FotiosF90M5 · 10-11-2007, 06:28 PM

This guy is a total fuckin scammer.I had the exact same ordeal with a set of tires I was selling on ebay.his name was larry somethin, he wanted to do the same thing and he said his shipping company would pick it up.Dont let him fool you, just tell him to go fuck himself just like I did..he got banned from ebay that very same day and sent me a fake ebay email saying that it was they're mistake.

FotiosF90M5 · 10-11-2007, 06:31 PM

I got one question, was his spelling kind of messed up. okay two questions, was he "away on business abroad in uk" and did he say client a lot? .. 3 questions

Bimmer335i07 · 10-11-2007, 08:12 PM

Don't Trust The Guy! Sell Locally If Possible!

10-10-2007, 07:08 PM	#1
Crawlings New Member 6 Rep 22 Posts Drives: The Danger Ranger Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Rocket City, USA iTrader: (0)	Forum member "dren01" wants to buy my car....scam? Recently a forum member by the name of dren01 PM'd me in regards to my 2004 M3 for sale. He claims to be out of state on business and says he will pay via a bank transfer and then have a shipping company come pick up the car. He hasn't even requested to see the car in person or anything. Does this sound fishy to anyone? Has something like this happened to anyone in the past or heard of something similar? If I just give him my checking account number and routing information, there is no harm that he can do with that correct? He would need that to make a funds transfer. And then once the money is in my account and I verify it with the bank on the phone, he is good to have the shiping company come pick up the car, correct? I need some advice on this one. Thanks, Chad PS. He just joined the forums, sent me a PM, and then either got banned or deleted his account. That's a strange point as well.
	Appreciate 0 Tweet Quote

10-10-2007, 07:15 PM	#2
MadDog Careful, I Bite..... 157 Rep 504 Posts Drives: 2006 325i Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: S.F. Bay Area iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 325i [7.50]	Sounds fishy to me. I wouldn't send anyone my bank info that I didn't contact first. Edit: And why would he buy your car sight unseen ??
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-10-2007, 07:16 PM	#3
nmulax Brigadier General 391 Rep 4,320 Posts Drives: '07 Z4 M Coupe Join Date: May 2006 Location: Metro-Detroit iTrader: (5) Garage List 2007 Z4M Coupé [7.66]	dude, don't give some random person your checking account and routing info. sounds like a total scam; and the fact that he's no longer on the board is even sketchier. __________________
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-10-2007, 07:32 PM	#4
tinobw Private First Class 17 Rep 144 Posts Drives: My Car Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mission Viejo, CA iTrader: (1)	this is what gonna happen; He (buyer) will ask you to create external account on your checking account, so your account have access sending/receiving money to his account, which actually not even his account. Money transfered to your account from that somebody bank account, you got the money in your account. In a couple of days, the bank denied the transfer, because unauthorized transfer. And pull back the money, if you already cashed out, your account become minus balance.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-10-2007, 10:59 PM	#5
FrankoQ Deny everything 229 Rep 11,378 Posts Drives: 2006 330i; 2015 X6, S1000RR Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Beautiful MD iTrader: (5) Garage List 2015 BMW X6 [0.00] 2006 330i [0.00]	do not release your information. __________________ I need a drink
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-10-2007, 11:05 PM	#6
ejazbmw blahhh 315 Rep 6,355 Posts Drives: 2014 M235I Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NJ/NY iTrader: (7)	not unless you want someone dipping in your back account....
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-11-2007, 12:58 AM	#8
Kiemyster Bimmerpost Resident Marijuana Consultant 476 Rep 3,202 Posts Drives: 320i, 325xi, 335Xi, 335i, M3 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Queens/NYC iTrader: (4) Garage List 2010 BMW 335i [0.00] 2011 BMW X335i [0.00] 2006 BMW E90 325xi [0.00] 2011 BMW E90 335xi [4.00] 2011 BMW M3 E90 [7.00] 2006 E90 320i [0.00]	so.... ur common sense never came into play? def. dont do it. tell him to go suck himself. i dont want u to get scammed.... thats the worst feeling in the world. trust me. __________________ "AMG What! S-Line Who? If you ain't got that M I got no respect for you!" '06 Alpine Weiss E90 320i \| '06 The Green Machine E90 325xi \| '11 Alpine Weiss E90 M3 ZCP \| '10 Silverstone X5M \| '11 Alpine Weiss E90 335xi
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-11-2007, 01:04 AM	#9
toofasttooslow Galactic Emperor 77 Rep 801 Posts Drives: Fast Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: WA iTrader: (3)	Fuck no don't do it. There is a relatively new crime sydicate going around and using account information to draw up counterfeit checks. They then use the counterfeit checks (with your account and abr numbers on them) to buy goods (mostly via ecomm)and fund various nefarious entities. Guess what happens after they are done cleaning out your checking account? YOU are liable for all of the overdrafts! If he was serious he could Western Union the money to you but for God's sake don't give him your acct/abr #'s. Also if the mods have his IP they should report it here: http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/ FBI won't investigate crimes under 20k unless they're violent, but the ic3 has established ties with the private sector and will notifiy the industry of pertinent information such as IP's, types of scams, etc.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-11-2007, 01:07 AM	#10
Kiemyster Bimmerpost Resident Marijuana Consultant 476 Rep 3,202 Posts Drives: 320i, 325xi, 335Xi, 335i, M3 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Queens/NYC iTrader: (4) Garage List 2010 BMW 335i [0.00] 2011 BMW X335i [0.00] 2006 BMW E90 325xi [0.00] 2011 BMW E90 335xi [4.00] 2011 BMW M3 E90 [7.00] 2006 E90 320i [0.00]	yeah. tell him to western union it. nothing can go wrong there lol __________________ "AMG What! S-Line Who? If you ain't got that M I got no respect for you!" '06 Alpine Weiss E90 320i \| '06 The Green Machine E90 325xi \| '11 Alpine Weiss E90 M3 ZCP \| '10 Silverstone X5M \| '11 Alpine Weiss E90 335xi
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-11-2007, 11:31 AM	#12
stooken Brigadier General 186 Rep 4,243 Posts Drives: E70 X5 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NOR*CAL iTrader: (2)	there's plenty of ways to protect yourself with a bank wire transfer but the fact that he's a new member and no longer active would make me feel uneasy. i've conducted plenty of online transactions with people through bank wire transfers only because i worked at a bank for 5 years so i know how it works. it's probably one of the safest ways if not the safest. i just opened a separate free checking account thats not linked to other accounts for overdraft. not linked to any check cards/atms. if the account is not in use, it's always at a zero balance. __________________ 2010 E92 BSM 335i \| M-Sport \| ST Coils \| Linea Corse Lemans \| Cobb AP \| BMS DCI \| Cyba Tips
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-11-2007, 11:40 AM	#13
GreddyBoy858 Mack 28 Rep 209 Posts Drives: 2006 325i Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: San Diego iTrader: (0)	No way man... __________________ 2006 BMW 325i / Jet Black / Black Dakota / Step / Nav w/ iDrive/ Premium / Sport / Sat Radio/ Adaptive Xenon Headlights / Debadged / Chrome Exhaust Tips / Rear Foglight Mod. / Rear DC Power Outlet Mod. / 20% Tint
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-11-2007, 11:44 AM	#14
E90SLAM Supreme Allied Commander 2016 Rep 61,781 Posts Drives: A BBS WHORE Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: . iTrader: (6) Garage List 2022 BMW X3 sDrive30i [0.00]	I think you can report this to the FBI regards to phishing scams. __________________
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-11-2007, 05:55 PM	#16
OhhaiAlex Oh hai :) 50 Rep 3,880 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Santa Clara iTrader: (0)	sounds fishy = fishy Dont do it __________________
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-11-2007, 06:28 PM	#18
FotiosF90M5 ///M Specialist South Shore BMW 800 Rep 7,109 Posts Drives: 2021 M5 Comp BHG/Silverstone Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Shore, MA iTrader: (62)	This guy is a total fuckin scammer.I had the exact same ordeal with a set of tires I was selling on ebay.his name was larry somethin, he wanted to do the same thing and he said his shipping company would pick it up.Dont let him fool you, just tell him to go fuck himself just like I did..he got banned from ebay that very same day and sent me a fake ebay email saying that it was they're mistake. __________________ 2021 M5 COMPETITION LCI Brands Hatch Gray on SIlverstone, carbon roof, comp wheels, Mperf splitter, carbon pro spoiler, carbon diffuser , carbon paddles, executive pkg. Dinan HAS, RaceChip, dinan spacers, FC stud kit, etc
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-11-2007, 06:31 PM	#19
FotiosF90M5 ///M Specialist South Shore BMW 800 Rep 7,109 Posts Drives: 2021 M5 Comp BHG/Silverstone Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Shore, MA iTrader: (62)	I got one question, was his spelling kind of messed up. okay two questions, was he "away on business abroad in uk" and did he say client a lot? .. 3 questions __________________ 2021 M5 COMPETITION LCI Brands Hatch Gray on SIlverstone, carbon roof, comp wheels, Mperf splitter, carbon pro spoiler, carbon diffuser , carbon paddles, executive pkg. Dinan HAS, RaceChip, dinan spacers, FC stud kit, etc
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-11-2007, 08:12 PM	#20
Bimmer335i07 BK Employee of the month! / Moderator 644 Rep 15,795 Posts Drives: BMW 335i Sedan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ... iTrader: (9) Garage List 2007 335i [0.00]	Don't Trust The Guy! Sell Locally If Possible! __________________ Sponsored by: Pics of the ---> Barbera Beast <--- Martino Auto Concepts (Like them on Facebook MAC) Factory Trained & Authorized by BMW of North America Matt@Camber-Toe (Like them on Facebook Camber-Toe) LuxAngelEyes (Like them on Facebook LuxAngelEyes) LTBMW (Like them on Facebook LTBMW) OEMconcepts (Like them on Facebook OEMconcepts)
	Appreciate 0 Quote