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      11-01-2007, 12:56 PM   #1
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Interesting... S5 lighter than 335xi

Found it quite interesting that the S5 V8 (which has slightly larger dimensions) is consideribly lighter! I can't believe the XI's weigh in at around 3800lbs (3759 lbs for the coupe and 3825 lbs for sedan). Audi has always been hassled for producing porkers, but damn, not this one... well, relatively speaking.

Stats are U.S. spec for the 335. Not sure the about the first S5 weight, but I know the second is euro.

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Height: 53.9" / 54.1"
Width (fender to fender): 73" / 70.2"
Width (mirror to mirror): 78" / 78.1"
Total Length: 182.5" / 181.1"
Unladen Weight: 3594 lbs/ 3759 lbs

I stole these stats from another site and they seem to check out. Discuss. And the intent of this thread isn't engine modding potential...
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      11-01-2007, 01:21 PM   #2
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one of the biggest problems of the s5 imo is the wieght distribution. its front heavy and you can feel it.
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one of the biggest problems of the s5 imo is the wieght distribution. its front heavy and you can feel it.
The 335XI coupe distribution is 52.8/47.2. I haven't seen official stats for the S5. I did read the A5 is near 50/50. The engine is further back (or the axles are farther forward or both?) than previous Audi models.
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one of the biggest problems of the s5 imo is the wieght distribution. its front heavy and you can feel it.
Most audi's i've driven have heavy heads....

i've drive the RS4 or the R8 yet, but i've seen reviews of the RS4 having the similar problem...

but the R8 seems to be 50 50....i think....
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According to C&D testing the S5 weighs in at 3818 pounds with a F/R weight distribution of 57.7/42.3. Here are the rest of their test results.

http://www.caranddriver.com/assets/d...uds5_08_ts.pdf
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I, for one, am very surprised.
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According to C&D testing the S5 weighs in at 3818 pounds with a F/R weight distribution of 57.7/42.3. Here are the rest of their test results.

http://www.caranddriver.com/assets/d...uds5_08_ts.pdf
Very interesting. Maybe that's the U.S. spec weight or something different than the "unladen" weight? Either way, I'm still surprised at the 335XI weight.

Are there any test sheets like that for the 335xi or even 335i for that matter?
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I have not seen specific test results for the 335xi (coupe or sedan).

Unladen weight seems to be a little nebulous. From what I've read the European definition is very specific (something like one 70kg passenger, 70% filled gas tank, 7Kg luggage...).

I do find it hard to believe the S5 is significantly lighter than the 335xi coupe given its dimensions and V8.
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I have not seen specific test results for the 335xi (coupe or sedan).

Unladen weight seems to be a little nebulous. From what I've read the European definition is very specific (something like one 70kg passenger, 70% filled gas tank, 7Kg luggage...).

I do find it hard to believe the S5 is significantly lighter than the 335xi coupe given its dimensions and V8.
Well, the S5 weighs 1630kg in euro spec form and that's straight from Audi. They aren't gping to lie. Hell, they eventually listed the nearly 4k lbs weight of the RS4 (euro spec version is around 3600 lbs). There is no official weight of the S5 on the U.S. site yet.

What it looks like is the U.S. gets another bloated version from Audi.
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I do find it hard to believe the S5 is significantly lighter than the 335xi coupe given its dimensions and V8.
That's because it's not. Look at the RS4's weight, it's like 4,000 pounds. The S5 can't be that much lighter, even with the new chassis.
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Well, the S5 weighs 1630kg in euro spec form and that's straight from Audi. They aren't gping to lie. Hell, they eventually listed the nearly 4k lbs weight of the RS4 (euro spec version is around 3600 lbs). There is no official weight of the S5 on the U.S. site yet.

What it looks like is the U.S. gets another bloated version from Audi.

A little more than 200 pounds seems to be unaccounted for between EU specs and C&D testing of US model. Hmm... I suspect the C&D numbers are more realistic, giving the 335 a little advantage.

Somebody posted a video of 335i vs. S5 track comparison showing 335 ahead by a slim margin at the finish (RWD 335). Difficult to extrapolate whether 335xi would fall behind due to increased weight or benefit from higher exit speeds out of the turns (some people debate the veracity of this).

I find the lack of 335xi testing frustrating - why not do a direct 335x vs S5 comparison?
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A little more than 200 pounds seems to be unaccounted for between EU specs and C&D testing of US model. Hmm... I suspect the C&D numbers are more realistic, giving the 335 a little advantage.
It's not that the C&D numbers are more realistic, I think it's that they are the first to list the weight of a U.S. spec car. I have a feeling that when U.S. specs are officially released by Audi, they will be in the same range as C&D. Audi tends to hold out on releasing U.S. specs. Euro specs have been posted for a while.

Now that I think of it, I'm not surprised. For example:

Euro spec S4 = 3652 lbs
U.S. spec S4 = 3869 lbs

That's a 217 lb difference. So, those C&D numbers seem dead on. I guess I was thinking that 3594 lb figure was U.S. and it's clearly not.

My bad everyone. LOL. Well in that case, the 335XI coupe is only slightly lighter than the S5 and the 335XI sedan is still heavier. So, I was partially right. haha.
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