[MalibuBimmer]

"Luxury or Speed" reminds me of the sign at my BMW mechanics' shop in Santa Monica:

"Fast, good, cheap - pick two."

The one thing missing from the choices on this thread is "reliability."

[dsad1]

Originally Posted by MalibuBimmer

"Luxury or Speed" reminds me of the sign at my BMW mechanics' shop in Santa Monica:

"Fast, good, cheap - pick two."

The one thing missing from the choices on this thread is "reliability."

With the exception of maybe the Japanese cars, I don't think there are any "reliable" cars left. As long as I know the local dealer will treat me well when I have problems, I will be fine.

I went to see the Velar today, it is a little more cramped than I expected. It is nice and unique, but somewhat expected more with form factor. I am thinking of waiting for the 2018 full size range rover.

I also found out how fast volvos depreciate today, it is going to cost quite a bit to get out of this lease 9 months early. I am better off dealing with this car for a few more months.

[birdcatcher]

I currently drive a 2013 X5 and have less than 40k miles on it. I am considering replacing it with the new generation Porsche Cayenne.
I read somewhere that the official unveil is 29-Aug-17 and will go on sale later this year as a 2018 model.
If you like the new Panamera interiors, I think it would be worth the wait.
This is my personal opinion (no offense meant to anyone here), I like Porsche quality and build better than the RRs, the big 3 Germanz and Jeep.

[IrvineTim]

subaru outback, loaded, cannot go wrong.

[lemetier]

Originally Posted by djsaad1

With the exception of maybe the Japanese cars, I don't think there are any "reliable" cars left. As long as I know the local dealer will treat me well when I have problems, I will be fine.

I went to see the Velar today, it is a little more cramped than I expected. It is nice and unique, but somewhat expected more with form factor. I am thinking of waiting for the 2018 full size range rover.

I also found out how fast volvos depreciate today, it is going to cost quite a bit to get out of this lease 9 months early. I am better off dealing with this car for a few more months.

The Velar is very deceptive in photos. Absolutely gorgeous but it is the size it is. Nice alternative to a Sport but the Vogue is still somewhat on its own. Can't go wrong with that one and with the 2018 updates it's even better. Which engine and wheelbase are you thinking?

[martin mustang]

If you looking for speed, SUV is not the way to go, I settle for the Range and enjoy the lux while you still have good performance safe with the fact you far away from the ground.

[Sheck44]

Just saw the Velar yesterday in person ... wow, what a beautiful vehicle and the interior did not disappoint !!

Steve

[martin mustang]

Still made in Sweden, the Velar will be an Indian car if going by the owners only.

Originally Posted by Lobb

It's Chinese?

[dsad1]

Originally Posted by lemetier

The Velar is very deceptive in photos. Absolutely gorgeous but it is the size it is. Nice alternative to a Sport but the Vogue is still somewhat on its own. Can't go wrong with that one and with the 2018 updates it's even better. Which engine and wheelbase are you thinking?

Ended up ordering the long wheelbase. Thought the extra room would be nice with the kids.

[Ali Shiralian]

I test drove the Velar last week while waiting for my FTypes first service. I was impressed by its interior and the double LCD screen. The ride was very well controlled for a SUV and the quality of material was a step up from the RR sport that my sister bought last month. It had a supercharged V6 producing 380hp and it's also very striking from outside. The rear cargo area wasn't big but usable. I'd take the Velar over any Jeep product any day of the week. Not in the same league IMO

[Germanauto]

With the right options the Velar's interior is pretty nice; not RR Sport nice but close. Chrysler has yet to put a nice interior in the entire history of the company.

To add to that, the Velar is way cooler than the Jeep. Land Rovers are special inside and out. they are among the most macho SUVs you can buy. It's a rolling status symbol.

[dsad1]

Originally Posted by Germanauto

With the right options the Velar's interior is pretty nice; not RR Sport nice but close. Chrysler has yet to put a nice interior in the entire history of the company.

To add to that, the Velar is way cooler than the Jeep. Land Rovers are special inside and out. they are among the most macho SUVs you can buy. It's a rolling status symbol.

If the Velar SVR was out I would have given it more thought, but then again we found out we were having a third kid right after I created this thread, so I gave up on both vehicles pretty quickly. I placed an order for the full size range rover yesterday, now I only have a 4 month wait.

[nick3753]

Originally Posted by djsaad1

If the Velar SVR was out I would have given it more thought, but then again we found out we were having a third kid right after I created this thread, so I gave up on both vehicles pretty quickly. I placed an order for the full size range rover yesterday, now I only have a 4 month wait.

Congrats, but no Durango SRT vs Range Rover thread?

[maniz]

Doesn't matter which Land Rover you buy, you'll mostly be driving dealer's loaners anyway

Many congrats on your upcoming baby.

[Alfisti]

Velar for sure, not sure what the point is of a hypo SUV, you still cannot go around corners like a car so who cares if it has 8 billion torques?

[CTinline-six]

The Trackhawk is way over priced. The difference between the SRT Grand and the Trackhawk will not even be usable on the street.

I'd buy the SRT Grand with a nice exhaust to be different. Every middle aged woman seems to be driving a white Range Rover here.

[FriskyDingo]

Velar or new Cayenne.

[aaaaah]

Macan Turbo?