bimmerpost/
BMW M2 and 2-Series Coupe
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts
home
BIMMERPOST Universal Forums Off-Topic Discussions Board

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      06-05-2020, 01:21 PM   #1
Rmtt
Colonel
Rmtt's Avatar
United_States
8203
Rep
2,250
Posts

Drives: 2011 BMW 128i, 2008 LS3 C6
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: South Carolina

iTrader: (3)

This is concerning about Covid Treatment

Two papers related to COVID-19 appearing in major journals that relied on data from Surgisphere Corp. were retracted on Thursday.

The HCQ study, which made headlines worldwide, found hospitalized COVID-19 patients receiving the drug with or without an antibiotic had increased mortality and higher rates of cardiac arrhythmias. It purportedly analyzed data from around 96,000 patients, 15,000 of whom received HCQ or chloroquine, with or without an antibiotic. Surgisphere was said to have provided the data from 671 hospitals on six continents.

Surgisphere founder Sapan Desai, MD, PhD, was the paper’s fourth author; he did not participate in the retraction request to The Lancet.

The New England Journal's retraction statement was much shorter, and did include Desai in the request.

"Because all the authors were not granted access to the raw data and the raw data could not be made available to a third-party auditor, we are unable to validate the primary data sources underlying our article," Mehra and colleagues wrote. "We therefore request that the article be retracted. We apologize to the editors and to readers of the Journal for the difficulties that this has caused."
Last Updated June 04, 2020


https://www.medpagetoday.com/infecti.../covid19/86887
__________________
Everybody has a gameplan....until they get punched in the mouth.
Appreciate 1
vreihen1620851.00
      06-05-2020, 01:27 PM   #2
Hawkeye
Brigadier General
Hawkeye's Avatar
No_Country
2065
Rep
4,365
Posts

Drives: '07 Z4 Coupe, '21 X3, '16 GMC
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Iowa

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Yeah - it was nice how we just disregarded our own experience for a study or two that apparently has no peer review. Even an amateur peer reviewer would know to check the sources first. It wasn't even well disguised as a "leading" global company.
__________________
2007 Z4 3.0si Coupe • 6 MT • Black Saphire Metallic • PP • SP
2016 GMC Sierra SLT Z71 Premium Plus 4x4
2017 Harley StreetGlide • Denim Black • V&H Tune
2021 BMW x30i • Phytonic Blue Metallic • Fully loaded
Appreciate 1
Rmtt8203.00
      06-05-2020, 03:05 PM   #3
quick6
Captain
751
Rep
704
Posts

Drives: BMW M6,BMW M340i
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: California

iTrader: (0)

I can tell you that medication does cause those side effects-my wife considered for her R/A-she was told several years ago it might cause heart problems and she has a heart murmur.It can cause serious problems. We decided against it long before COVID-19 became politicized.
Appreciate 0
      06-05-2020, 03:08 PM   #4
Hawkeye
Brigadier General
Hawkeye's Avatar
No_Country
2065
Rep
4,365
Posts

Drives: '07 Z4 Coupe, '21 X3, '16 GMC
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Iowa

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by quick6 View Post
I can tell you that medication does cause those side effects-my wife considered for her R/A-she was told several years ago it might cause heart problems and she has a heart murmur.It can cause serious problems. We decided against it long before COVID-19 became politicized.
There is a difference in something having side effects and causing an increased mortality rate.

Getting a pace maker put in has side effects, but it sure doesn't increase the mortality rate when used to treat heart failure.

BTW - the only outcome of this is that the CDC and WHO and whoever are going to resume the trials they were performing for the drug, it's not like they are jumping right to promoting it.
__________________
2007 Z4 3.0si Coupe • 6 MT • Black Saphire Metallic • PP • SP
2016 GMC Sierra SLT Z71 Premium Plus 4x4
2017 Harley StreetGlide • Denim Black • V&H Tune
2021 BMW x30i • Phytonic Blue Metallic • Fully loaded
Appreciate 0
      06-05-2020, 03:24 PM   #5
Rmtt
Colonel
Rmtt's Avatar
United_States
8203
Rep
2,250
Posts

Drives: 2011 BMW 128i, 2008 LS3 C6
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: South Carolina

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by quick6 View Post
I can tell you that medication does cause those side effects-my wife considered for her R/A-she was told several years ago it might cause heart problems and she has a heart murmur.It can cause serious problems. We decided against it long before COVID-19 became politicized.
My post wasn't meant to be political...just to highlight how quickly things seemed to be pushed out before being vetted.

My daughter was warned of side effects when she had to take chloroquine twice for malaria prevention when she went to Africa on two separate occasions working in the Doctors without Borders program.

**Edit** I'm sorry to hear about your wife's condition. My wife suffers from an auto-immune disorder.....so I can relate.
__________________
Everybody has a gameplan....until they get punched in the mouth.

Last edited by Rmtt; 06-05-2020 at 03:58 PM..
Appreciate 1
quick6750.50
      06-05-2020, 04:35 PM   #6
quick6
Captain
751
Rep
704
Posts

Drives: BMW M6,BMW M340i
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: California

iTrader: (0)

Thanks-i know it wasn't meant to be political. I remain concerned that some will take this medication outside of a doctor's care when they should be monitored.
I have no idea about the efficacy for COVID-19,it seems that it is controversial!
Appreciate 1
Rmtt8203.00
      06-05-2020, 05:10 PM   #7
Hawkeye
Brigadier General
Hawkeye's Avatar
No_Country
2065
Rep
4,365
Posts

Drives: '07 Z4 Coupe, '21 X3, '16 GMC
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Iowa

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Like this genius? https://www.foxnews.com/us/police-in...h-tank-cleaner
__________________
2007 Z4 3.0si Coupe • 6 MT • Black Saphire Metallic • PP • SP
2016 GMC Sierra SLT Z71 Premium Plus 4x4
2017 Harley StreetGlide • Denim Black • V&H Tune
2021 BMW x30i • Phytonic Blue Metallic • Fully loaded
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:23 AM.




g87
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST