[baege]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

But it's blown, where's the fun in that on public roads? I dunno, guys want "fun" and "visceral" and "sporty" then get blown cars with 700ft lb of torque. Great, you're doing 150 clicks in 3 seconds and you gotta lift.

You're the only person here more indecisive and non-committal than me and that is saying something. I literally do not see a box a 991 GTS doesn't tick and you can lose the M2. I'l say it to, R8, for me, I dunno .... it's always felt ... i dunno ... i don't lust after it. I'd get a GT350 before a R8.

gts 4.0 is normally aspirated

[Alfisti]

Ok you lost me because I said 991.1, which is NA.

[baege]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

Ok you lost me because I said 991.1, which is NA.

yup and I said I prefer the fact that the gts 4.0 is a brand new car and is more compact

dont get me wrong I love the 991.1 gts...my buddy has one and actually chose to keep it over an r8 v10 6mt...he said the 991.1 gts was more of a driver's car...but that v10!

[Alfisti]

I'm lost, the new GTS is NA?

[inTgr8r]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

I'm lost, the new GTS is NA?

I think he means the 982 GTS 4.0
There is no 992 GTS yet.

[CPWINCH]

Originally Posted by baege

perhaps "fun" is too simple a way to phrase it. I guess I wonder if the overall experience will be more enjoyable for me, given that I do not value the status, looks and attention that many appreciate supercars for. I am really about the driving enjoyment. I can honestly say that driving the M2 and the R8 back to back, the only thing I preferred about the R8 in terms of driving enjoyment was the sound, instant response and power of that v10. I preferred the compact size, better visibility, better clearance, better flowing manual transmissions (could be just an unfamiliarity thing, but never felt that way first time I drove a porsche 6MT) of the M2.

The M2 is just easier and still very fun.

The R8 is more of a chore to drive in lots of ways, but that V10!

Just sell your M2 and get a e92 m3. Its 95% a supercar when properly built and just as good as a car as a R8

[inTgr8r]

Originally Posted by CPWINCH

Just sell your M2 and get a e92 m3. Its 95% a supercar when properly built and just as good as a car as a R8

Great car but E92 M3 doesn't fit his criteria of low end torque.
I had one and sold it 1 year later because of this and the size.
...absolutely loved the sound track though with a good exhaust system.

[CPWINCH]

Originally Posted by inTgr8r

Great car but E92 M3 doesn't fit his criteria of low end torque.
I had one and sold it 1 year later because of this and the size.
...absolutely loved the sound track though with a good exhaust system.

Just get a Harrop Supercharger. Will blow the doors off an R8 from any part of the rev range

[dscabra]

I don't have $$ for a super car, but I have a car with super car performance numbers that gets a lot of looks and attention without the fear of driving something that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars. I built a Cobra replica that makes 440 hp and 418 lb/ft of torque from about 3K to 6K rpm and weighs just over 2200lbs; giving it a power to weight ratio comparable to a Ferrari 458 and a Bugatti Veyron. It is raw and uncivilized in pretty much every way, which is what makes it so much fun to drive. No computers keeping you pointed in the right direction. It's all on the driver to manage the power. If you can hook it up, 0-60 can be in the 3-second range, but I've never been able to get that low with street tires. You need to wear hearing protection or your ears will be ringing after even a short drive. There's no heater. I did go with power steering, but no power brakes; just big 6-piston calipers on big rotors that will put you hard into the 5-point Simpson harness when you mash the brake pedal. Damn, I need to go for a drive!!!

The following is posted on a Cobra Forum I frequent and it is a bit dated, but sums up the experience of driving a Cobra pretty well:

Driving a Cobra Replica

"If you want to just gas and go, and never have to worry about replacing an alternator, or snuggling down the header bolts, or getting a wet leg driving in a rainstorm, or learning how to set your carb float level, or driving in traffic on a warm winter day with "winter gas" in the tank, get a Corvette."

With a Cobra Replica you have to remind yourself that you are driving a hand made race car on the street. There is no compromise for anything other than pure speed. These cars are brutal and unforgiving, with all the refinement of a medieval battle ax. Like being in a relationship with an exotic dancer, you can never take anything for granted. These cars don't have millions of miles of testing refinement before you get yours. For any trip longer than an hour, you need earplugs, and goggles, and carry Advil and eye drops. You will need to learn to "read" the clouds for rain in your path, and have experience in un-wrapping your frozen fingers from the MotoLita. You will experience lady passengers "wetting" the passenger seat when you merge into traffic from an on ramp, and then nearly burn their calf getting out of the car.

You will have all the invisibility of a burning Hindenburg, and flee from underground parking lots when uncountable car alarms are screaming your departure. When you shop, you will remind yourself that these cars get more attention than a dead body in a parking lot.

With a power to weight ratio better than almost every supercar, you will find your 1/4 mile times traction rather than power limited. On the other hand, when you stage, out of the corner of your helmet's visor you will see almost the entire audience lining up at the fence, most with cameras up. If you track on a road course with a Porsche club, owners of expensive German machines will come to the fence to watch you power out in smoking oversteer. You won't even try to start your engine in the garage, but push it out onto the driveway, else your loyal watch dog will croak from the exhaust fumes. If you idle next to other "sports" cars at a traffic light, by the green, their girlfriend will be coughing green phlegm into her hanky, yelling at her date to just go! When you refuel, you might as well prop the "bonnet" open, because you are going to have to show your motor to just about every other guy there. When you order your wings at Hooters, your waitress will whisper in your ear "take me for a ride." When you stop at the red light, the girl in the convertible next to you will invite you to "take my top off too."

When you slowly pass a troop of Harley riders, they will look over and give you thumbs up. When you want to ease out into traffic, other cars will immediately pause to let you go ahead of them. When your engine has its hot, crackling, intimidating exhaust side-pipe aimed right at the flank of the GTO, or the Z28, your exhaust pulsation's slowly unscrewing his lug nuts, the other car will remain motionless, as if the slightest quiver of his car will cause your car to stomp it dead. When you leave it open in a parking lot, and come back to find your sunglasses and cell phone still sitting on the tunnel, it is because your car has sullenly warned those who came over to admire it "touch me and I will rise up here and kill you dead."

When you put that tiny silver key into the ignition, and begin your start countdown, your car will whisper "take me for granted, and I will kill you."

When other drivers just hop in and snap up their belts while backing out of their parking space, you will still have two more minutes before you even get all the Simpson's properly on and snugged down. Pulling up in a Cobra Replica is like landing an F4U at an ultra-lite convention.

In summary, very, very few drivers want this kind of attention, or can tolerate all that a formidable Cobra Replica demands. These cars are intolerant mistresses.

But remember, there will come a day when you have to hang up your car keys for the last time. And perhaps you want to say then "I did it."

[TXSTYLE]

To answer the OP question...

YES!!!