[TEGRITY]

https://www.motor1.com/news/590983/2...ustion-engine/


That's it. End of true M is here!

[H2O_Doc]

I'm not sure why only an ICE is a true M. EVs are clearly capable of extraordinary acceleration and maybe this is better viewed as a new age of more impressive performance.

I'm not dismissing the fact that it is a genuinely huge change. And although I'm deeply concerned about climate change, I too will miss the rasping growl of an ICE. At the end of the day, this is an important and necessary shift and so long as there are enough driving enthusiasts, will have performance vehicles being made powered by EV motors, flux capacitors, or whatever.

Let nostalgia give way to optimism for a new era of high performance.

[///393]

Originally Posted by TEGRITY

That's it. End of true M is here!

“True M” and “Real M” are great signals to stop paying attention to what someone is saying.

[TEGRITY]

Originally Posted by wilson kop

"True M" and "Real M" are great signals to stop paying attention to what someone is saying.

What?

[MarlboroM2C]

EVs...no thanks nWo

[akkando]

Yes, obviously.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by MarlboroM2C

EVs...no thanks nWo

I have high hopes at what BMW can do once they get past the growing stages

[GoneIn4Secs]

Originally Posted by H2O_Doc

I'm not sure why only an ICE is a true M. EVs are clearly capable of extraordinary acceleration and maybe this is better viewed as a new age of more impressive performance.

I'm not dismissing the fact that it is a genuinely huge change. And although I'm deeply concerned about climate change, I too will miss the rasping growl of an ICE. At the end of the day, this is an important and necessary shift and so long as there are enough driving enthusiasts, will have performance vehicles being made powered by EV motors, flux capacitors, or whatever.

Let nostalgia give way to optimism for a new era of high performance.

Its simply not the case, you have bought into and believe propaganda from a small group of people who have their own political agenda, at your own peril

Pure M cars (and cars in general) will always be ICE cars

[///393]

Originally Posted by GoneIn4Secs

Its simply not the case, you have bought into and believe propaganda from a small group of people who have their own political agenda, at your own peril

Pure M cars (and cars in general) will always be ICE cars

Add “Pure M” to the list above.

[TEGRITY]

Originally Posted by wilson kop

Add "Pure M" to the list above.

You can keep that list your are building with yourself. Try to understand where some of us are coming from. We are all different. Age, gender, exposure, taste and money. I grew up in an era where an M car is ICE, period. It's a DemiGod in my eyes.This is a massive change and will take more time for some of us to accept. Some may never and some (like yourself) will be open to it from the get go. The connection with the car is key and it will be very different between ICE vs EV/hybrid. I am not saying that future M cars will be shit but won't have the same soul and character as this era.

[TEGRITY]

Originally Posted by H2O_Doc

I'm not sure why only an ICE is a true M. EVs are clearly capable of extraordinary acceleration and maybe this is better viewed as a new age of more impressive performance.

I'm not dismissing the fact that it is a genuinely huge change. And although I'm deeply concerned about climate change, I too will miss the rasping growl of an ICE. At the end of the day, this is an important and necessary shift and so long as there are enough driving enthusiasts, will have performance vehicles being made powered by EV motors, flux capacitors, or whatever.

Let nostalgia give way to optimism for a new era of high performance.

I agree with you on sustainability and thanks for putting forth a moderate view unlike some others. Let's talk stats and numbers and what will actually make a tangible difference.

1. Can we agree at high level that 90% to 95% of cars sold by BMW globally will be non Ms.
2. Majority of the people who buy these M cars are purists, enthusiasts, dinosaurs who love a traditional experience
3. So it is better to convert the non Ms to EVs first and leave the Ms open to choice. This will also make a huge positive impact on sustainability and also let people like us have what we love.

[DFW_M]

Originally Posted by wilson kop

Add “Pure M” to the list above.

I usually ignore those that joined the forum 6 months ago and are trying to teach the rest of us the history of the brand...

[///393]

Originally Posted by DFW_M2C

I usually ignore those that joined the forum 6 months ago and are trying to teach the rest of us the history of the brand...

More great logic on display. I’m not teaching anything ya dingus. I’m highlighting the silliness of arbitrary definitions like this.

M cars have come in so many shapes, styles, flavors, configurations anyone attempting to box them into one definition fails to realize that speed and performance are awesome and their are a lot of ways to achieve that goal.

I just got some seat time in a E92 with an exhaust fitted and I’m more convinced of this idea than ever. They’re all good cars. Collect em all.

[Dylanm240]

Originally Posted by TEGRITY

What?

Gatekeeping is so annoying