[Bumpinjeep]

The second car on the list is the G87. Discuss.

[Kobared]

If the M240i is anything to go off then I have no doubt about the G87 will be good

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

The second car on the list is the G87. Discuss.

Skip ahead to 5:48. To-date, not really favorable. Weight is the main concern. Let’s see how they feel after they drive a G87.

[zero21]

On the weight topic...I've been seeing several M3's, M4's, and M5 both dyno tested and weighed independently and beat the figures posted by BMW. I honestly have no concern about weight. Maybe I'm just being overly optimistic, but I have a hunch this car will be an absolute gem in power, weight and driving dynamics and will be highly desirable. Just tunes in S58's yield 100hp. The aftermarket will go crazy with this thing.

We also already know of just a few things that can drop weight pretty significantly into the 3500 range: carbon seats, roof, hood, lithium battery, titanium exhaust, wheels, etc. The M3/M4 crowd are also swapping the bracing structure for the CSL one. Only a matter of time before a carbon unit becomes available there too.

[StickyPickle]

It seems BMW overestimates the weight for many of their vehicles (at least for the US). Several M3/M4 owners have proven those vehicles weigh less than advertised.

The reported curb weight for a M240i w/Xdrive is 3,871lbs and someone posted in a thread on the G42 forum that theirs weighed 3,814lbs with a full tank of gas. I imagine the G87 will follow suit.

[Jims M3]

Why would BMW overestimate the weight of their cars?

[Sethhboii]

Originally Posted by Jims M3

Why would BMW overestimate the weight of their cars?

They literally do this with crank HP and weight a lot

[Sethhboii]

Originally Posted by Jims M3

Why would BMW overestimate the weight of their cars?

Literally watch Carwows latest video where they compare factory to actual weight of an M5, RS6 and AMG. BMW was the only one that weighed less and had more stock HP

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by Sethhboii

Literally watch Carwows latest video where they compare factory to actual weight of an M5, RS6 and AMG. BMW was the only one that weighed less and had more stock HP

It is difficult to complain about those results.

[Sethhboii]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

It is difficult to complain about those results.

Right lol! Like I bet the G87 will be a tad faster and weigh a tad less

[Tag]

Originally Posted by Sethhboii

Literally watch Carwows latest video where they compare factory to actual weight of an M5, RS6 and AMG. BMW was the only one that weighed less and had more stock HP

Watched that over the weekend as well and swear the whole time was thinking BMW would have more power than advertised but the weight would be pretty much around what's advertised. Was pleasantly surprised to see it was a decent amount less.

Only thought on why BMW advertises higher weights is maybe that's for a car with every option or spec'd with the most common options? Can't think of any other reason that makes sense.

[Bumpinjeep]

Originally Posted by Jims M3

Why would BMW overestimate the weight of their cars?

My guess would be because there are set regulation standards for determining weight.
Example: Vehicle with every possible option, plus 3/4 tank of gas, plus 1.5 passengers.
So the car may in fact weigh less than advertised (hopefully). Maybe it might weigh more, we don't really know and wont know until spring/summer.

Why do we really care about vehicle weights? Taxes.

[BRAKE!]

My guess is that all of the Youtubers will say that this car is brilliant

...but comes with a caveat of heavy weight (which spoils some handling characteristics). That it's more practical than a cayman or a supra, but doesn't feel as playful as either. However, it is more playful than a base M3 or M4 because of the shorter wheel base. Then cut to some track driving shots and a few drifts, talk crap about ID8 and end it with a 'Doug Score' ~60


BTW... these are just opinions from a few guys who test drive cars. It is not gospel and certainly doesn't apply to everyone else's situations and desires. It's there for entertainment first. It ain't like we're getting a review from Gordon Murray or Lewis Hamilton.

[Game]

Originally Posted by BRAKE!

My guess is that all of the Youtubers will say that this car is brilliant

...but comes with a caveat of heavy weight (which spoils some handling characteristics). That it's more practical than a cayman or a supra, but doesn't feel as playful as either. However, it is more playful than a base M3 or M4 because of the shorter wheel base. Then cut to some track driving shots and a few drifts, talk crap about ID8 and end it with a 'Doug Score' ~60


BTW... these are just opinions from a few guys who test drive cars. It is not gospel and certainly doesn't apply to everyone else's situations and desires. It's there for entertainment first. It ain't like we're getting a review from Gordon Murray or Lewis Hamilton.

Nailed it.

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by BRAKE!

My guess is that all of the Youtubers will say that this car is brilliant

...but comes with a caveat of heavy weight (which spoils some handling characteristics). That it's more practical than a cayman or a supra, but doesn't feel as playful as either. However, it is more playful than a base M3 or M4 because of the shorter wheel base. Then cut to some track driving shots and a few drifts, talk crap about ID8 and end it with a 'Doug Score' ~60


BTW... these are just opinions from a few guys who test drive cars. It is not gospel and certainly doesn't apply to everyone else's situations and desires. It's there for entertainment first. It ain't like we're getting a review from Gordon Murray or Lewis Hamilton.

I feel a G87 review from Chris Harris would be a valid one as he currently owns a F87 CS that he had wrapped in British Racing Green when the car was new.