bimmerpost/
BMW M2 and 2-Series Coupe
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts
home
BMW M2 Forums 2023+ (G87) Engine, Exhaust, Drivetrain, Tuning Modifications

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      05-20-2023, 06:36 PM   #1
JustinHEMI
Not great. Not terrible
JustinHEMI's Avatar
7497
Rep
2,698
Posts

Drives: 2024 BMW X3 M40i
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Lebanon, TN

iTrader: (2)

I was going to post my impressions vs F87 after 850 miles, but I can post this part here.

I find this car is far easier to drive in sport+ than my F87. I often had a hard time pulling out and shifting to 2nd smoothly in the F87.

I've had no trouble with this car.

I wish I could describe how I do it, but I can say for sure that I'm hard into the throttle before I'm done letting out the clutch.
__________________
Current: 2024 BMW X3 M40i.
Appreciate 1
Clippy55.50
      05-20-2023, 07:46 PM   #2
zero21
Lieutenant Colonel
3276
Rep
1,843
Posts

Drives: G87 sold
Join Date: Nov 2022
Location: Charleston, SC

iTrader: (0)

You can't put the engine in sport or sport plus and have smooth shifts driving in any conditions. I lucked out one time and I'll never forget it.

It has to be in efficient, or like you said, you wait 1-2sec to let the clutch out. I hate to say this but the manual is a bit of a turd. I'm sure it's fine when you're pushing and alone, but god help you if a woman is in the car and doesn't want her breasts bouncing every shift.
Appreciate 2
      05-20-2023, 07:48 PM   #3
JustinHEMI
Not great. Not terrible
JustinHEMI's Avatar
7497
Rep
2,698
Posts

Drives: 2024 BMW X3 M40i
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Lebanon, TN

iTrader: (2)

I had no problems.

I'm no longer interested in "upgrading" my shifter, either.
__________________
Current: 2024 BMW X3 M40i.
Appreciate 3
752002553.00
jay1k282.50
T_U_D6701.50
      05-21-2023, 07:05 AM   #4
Chris13002
Private First Class
371
Rep
185
Posts

Drives: 2023 BMW M2
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: DC

iTrader: (0)

Very good points here so far! In my 6MT, I always keep the engine in sports plus for the exhaust noise. 1-2 is a pain, but with my girlfriend in the car, I let first gear settle (no acceleration) and then shift and it doesn't have a jerky motion. It's not ideal for acceleration but it's what I found to be smooth so far. I got 2500 miles on my car and still learning it.

One thing I do like about this "rubbery" shifter is that I have yet to mis a shift or grind gears. In my Honda S2000 it was fighting a war trying to get 1-2 shifts especially during a race and high RPMs.
Appreciate 0
      05-21-2023, 11:07 AM   #5
ronin13013
Captain
1067
Rep
625
Posts

Drives: G87 M2
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: New Jersey

iTrader: (0)

A little throttle on clutch release eliminates jerking.
Appreciate 1
MMMGuy60502.50
      05-21-2023, 01:12 PM   #6
Albator_IIII
Retired Major
Albator_IIII's Avatar
Canada
1062
Rep
763
Posts

Drives: 2008 E90 335i 6MT Custom
Join Date: Oct 2022
Location: Edmonton

iTrader: (0)

Is the jerky similar to the E46 M3 "bucking bronco" type effect?
__________________

2023 G87 ///M2 (production began Jul 4th 2023)
2008 E90 335i | Silver Grey | Terra | Piano Black | 6MT | ZSP | ZKO | ZAT | ZKI | ZPL | ZKL |
Appreciate 0
      05-21-2023, 09:51 PM   #7
ronin13013
Captain
1067
Rep
625
Posts

Drives: G87 M2
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: New Jersey

iTrader: (0)

Not for me...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Albator_IIII View Post
Is the jerky similar to the E46 M3 "bucking bronco" type effect?
Appreciate 1
      05-22-2023, 06:45 PM   #8
rangerfan94
Private First Class
rangerfan94's Avatar
United_States
261
Rep
153
Posts

Drives: Like it's a rental!
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: CT

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2023 BMW M2  [10.00]
2019 G01  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slick1984 View Post
Care to share the link for the clutch stop? Too much fake stuff and definitely don’t want to end up with a wrong part.
So I have this Burger Turning Clutch Stop in my Golf R and I have it on my desk ready to install in the M2 when it gets here.
__________________
2022 G07 M50i, 2019 G01 30i, 2017 F25 28i
A couple of other fun cars in the current stable
SOLD 2013 E93, Interlagos Blue, ZCW, ZPP, 223, 2MK, 19"s, 655, 6NR, 752, 4MY
SOLD 2013 E70, Carbon Black, Cinnamon Brown, M-Sport
Appreciate 3
      05-23-2023, 05:35 PM   #9
KevinC
your average JAMF
KevinC's Avatar
United_States
3498
Rep
4,179
Posts

Drives: '21 M2 Comp, '19 Golf R
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Cochise County, AZ

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by JustinHEMI View Post
I suppose I'm going to have to give that clutch stop a look.
I have one in both my cars and they do make a tremendous difference IMHO. I’ve also done CDV deletes in a couple of past cars and could detect ZERO difference.

There’s s an Ebay guy who sells them for $15 shipped. Search for “BMW clutch stop”. I think he’s in San Jose.
Appreciate 1
JustinHEMI7497.00
      05-23-2023, 08:41 PM   #10
DrJLag420
Lieutenant
DrJLag420's Avatar
No_Country
842
Rep
511
Posts

Drives: 2022 BMW M240i
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Private

iTrader: (0)

I just purchased the Burger clutch stop. Now I just need an M2 allocation…
Appreciate 0
      05-26-2023, 10:50 PM   #11
lbahoshy
Enthusiast
lbahoshy's Avatar
81
Rep
281
Posts

Drives: 2014 Carrera S, 2023 BMW M2
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Oakville, Ontario

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by DrJLag420 View Post
I just purchased the Burger clutch stop. Now I just need an M2 allocation…

__________________
2023 G87 M2, Brooklyn grey, HEA spec, 6 spd manual

2014 911 Carrera S, Agate grey, black int, 7spd manual

2019 M2C, HKS, 6 spd Manual. (Sold)
Appreciate 1
KevinC3498.00
      05-27-2023, 12:16 AM   #12
wavyyyy
Captain
1062
Rep
937
Posts

Drives: M2C
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Queens

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2023 bmw m3 6mt  [0.00]
The eBay clutch stop is much much better than the bms one
Appreciate 0
      05-27-2023, 04:18 AM   #13
Squidget
Lieutenant Colonel
3779
Rep
1,684
Posts

Drives: 2023 G87, 2011 E90 335i
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: Boston

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by wavyyyy View Post
The eBay clutch stop is much much better than the bms one
Would you please explain why, that would help.
Appreciate 1
      05-27-2023, 09:50 AM   #14
wavyyyy
Captain
1062
Rep
937
Posts

Drives: M2C
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Queens

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2023 bmw m3 6mt  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Squidget View Post
Would you please explain why, that would help.
Metal innards and the stem fits in a lot easier. The BMS one is really impossible to fit in and the discs are all made of foam meaning they deteriorate.

it doesn’t mention g8x but it fit in my g80 perfectly

Can’t post eBay links but I’ll send it to whoever if you just message me
Appreciate 1
Squidget3778.50
      08-08-2023, 09:01 AM   #15
Clippy
Enlisted Member
Clippy's Avatar
56
Rep
31
Posts

Drives: 2020 Black M2C
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: Washington

iTrader: (0)

I've definitely found the same thing, just finished my break in service last Saturday and even for casual driving the S+ throttle response makes it much much smoother from 1-2 specifically. And the clutch stop helps loads.
Appreciate 0
      08-08-2023, 02:32 PM   #16
Click_ID
Isetta Café Barista
784
Rep
180
Posts

Drives: Clapped out 335. N54 goes brrr
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Ontario

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2022 BMW X3  [0.00]
2024 BMW X5  [0.00]
2023 BMW M2  [10.00]
I've tried to live with this transmission for almost 6 months now!

It's the same one in the E46
I've adjusted the following and it is SO MUCH better;
1. Rouge Engineering SSK
2. Rouge Engineering G series Rear shifter bushing replacement
3.CDV Valve removal


The first two take away most of the play in the shifter and gone is that unsure rubbery feeling. Gear engagement is great, shifter movement is like a rifle now, things slide and lock into place better than they did.
There are a lot of soft rubbers used on the existing hardware that feels clunky, lethargic, and dated.
This allows you to have a bit more confidence and enjoy ringing through the gears (IMO).
The CDV Valve is interesting and helps with that 1-2nd shift. Doesn't fix it, but it helps. There is always rev-hang 1-2 on the manual cars that can attribute to that "clunky" feeling. Gear changes feel like they can happen much quicker now.

After Mpact I'll do a review and summary.

Last edited by Click_ID; 08-08-2023 at 02:34 PM.. Reason: grammar
Appreciate 2
      10-14-2023, 09:36 PM   #17
RandomBro
Private First Class
147
Rep
110
Posts

Drives: BMW M2 (G87)
Join Date: Jun 2023
Location: Canada

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Click_ID View Post
I've tried to live with this transmission for almost 6 months now!

It's the same one in the E46
I've adjusted the following and it is SO MUCH better;
1. Rouge Engineering SSK
2. Rouge Engineering G series Rear shifter bushing replacement
3.CDV Valve removal


The first two take away most of the play in the shifter and gone is that unsure rubbery feeling. Gear engagement is great, shifter movement is like a rifle now, things slide and lock into place better than they did.
There are a lot of soft rubbers used on the existing hardware that feels clunky, lethargic, and dated.
This allows you to have a bit more confidence and enjoy ringing through the gears (IMO).
The CDV Valve is interesting and helps with that 1-2nd shift. Doesn't fix it, but it helps. There is always rev-hang 1-2 on the manual cars that can attribute to that "clunky" feeling. Gear changes feel like they can happen much quicker now.

After Mpact I'll do a review and summary.
Looking to get myself the complete rogue SSK kit would love to hear any further feedback you might have .

My main issue is I can't shift as fast as I want with the OEM shifter. HOPING the Rogue SSK address this.
Appreciate 0
      10-16-2023, 09:03 AM   #18
stashstein
Private First Class
253
Rep
198
Posts

Drives: Mazda MX5
Join Date: Nov 2022
Location: Virginia

iTrader: (0)

I can barely drive the car in normal mode, I always have it in sport or sport+. The throttle response in normal is too weird for me, I either don't give enough or too much.

It's really easy to get super smooth shifts in sport. You have to remember that while the clutch has a really long travel the engagement point is actually very low.
Appreciate 1
Click_ID783.50
      11-15-2023, 09:57 AM   #19
Click_ID
Isetta Café Barista
784
Rep
180
Posts

Drives: Clapped out 335. N54 goes brrr
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Ontario

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2022 BMW X3  [0.00]
2024 BMW X5  [0.00]
2023 BMW M2  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomBro View Post
Looking to get myself the complete rogue SSK kit would love to hear any further feedback you might have .

My main issue is I can't shift as fast as I want with the OEM shifter. HOPING the Rogue SSK address this.

1-2 will always be slow. But this does help a bit, it'll never be a porsche.
Appreciate 0
      11-16-2023, 10:51 AM   #20
DBV
Captain
DBV's Avatar
795
Rep
965
Posts

Drives: G87 M2, G20 330d, Brabus Smart
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Berlin

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2023 BMW M2  [9.17]
2018 Brabus Smart  [10.00]
2021 BMW 330d  [10.00]
Install a clutch stop. Game changer.

Ordered a 12 Euro Clutch Stop from eBay, through seller 55parts. Solid transaction, clutch stop measures 12mm and is easily installed.

Super positive clutch engagement, with significant travel reduction. Overall very pleased with the mod.
__________________
@DBV_
Current: '23 G87 M2 6MT / '21 G20 330d / '18 Brabus Smart
Gone: '21 G05 X5 M50d / '18 MB C63s (632hp) / '16 F80 M3 6MT (570hp) / '09 F01 750i / '16 Abarth 595 Competizione (202hp)
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:37 AM.




g87
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST