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      11-23-2023, 11:49 AM   #1
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front radiator and cooler taking a beating

After only 500 miles, radiator and cooler are taking a beating without any mesh protection. Is there anything out there we can retrofit like the mishimoto skid plate?
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After only 500 miles, radiator and cooler are taking a beating without any mesh protection. Is there anything out there we can retrofit like the mishimoto skid plate?
https://www.zunsport.com/en/product/...roduct_id=7328

https://www.zunsport.com/en/product/...roduct_id=7331
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I installed Zunsport grilles on my wife's X3MC. They're very nice quality pieces.
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I have them installed now too, along with the oil cooler guard. I will have a DIY up soon for the install, absolutely worth it!

For the folks that call them 'expensive chicken wire'.. yeah no.. I saw a zunsport screen take a deer strike and survive. They are excellent.
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I have them installed now too, along with the oil cooler guard. I will have a DIY up soon for the install, absolutely worth it!

For the folks that call them 'expensive chicken wire'.. yeah no.. I saw a zunsport screen take a deer strike and survive. They are excellent.
So if I’m understanding the cart price the mesh things are over $500 for the entire set ?

The center and the side pieces ?
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So if I’m understanding the cart price the mesh things are over $500 for the entire set ?

The center and the side pieces ?
Something like that. I've only installed my oil cooler guard so far. Waiting for PPF to be done first before doing the rest. I was hesitant to make the drive to PPF without them, but it seemed like too much of a hassle to remove them before PPF.

As for how delicate they seem I'm just a little dissapointed to see mention of more than one Mishimoto skid plate arrive with the tabs broken. $450 for just the oil cooler guard that has trouble surviving the shipping? That raises some serious questions for me if I'll be looking to upgrade my Zunsport oil cooler gaurd to a Mishimoto.
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I ended up ordering center and side grilles from https://www.stradaledesign.com/g87-m2

Cheaper than the ZunSport, and appear to attach better. I mentioned above that I installed the ZunSport screens on my wife's X3MC. Because the hooks face the front, they're very easy to push in. I'm probably going to remove them and figure out how to add some double-sided tape to make them more secure.

I did order the ZunSport oil cooler grille, however, and it should arrive this week.
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I ended up ordering center and side grilles from https://www.stradaledesign.com/g87-m2

Cheaper than the ZunSport, and appear to attach better. I mentioned above that I installed the ZunSport screens on my wife's X3MC. Because the hooks face the front, they're very easy to push in. I'm probably going to remove them and figure out how to add some double-sided tape to make them more secure.

I did order the ZunSport oil cooler grille, however, and it should arrive this week.
Are you saying the zunsport units are loose or rattling while in place?
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Are you saying the zunsport units are loose or rattling while in place?
At least for me, they are not and are secure in place. The screens on my G87 is the third car with Zunsport screens, and work great and look awesome.
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Are you saying the zunsport units are loose or rattling while in place?
No, they feel secure. But if they take a direct hit from something, They're going to end up in the opening.
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No, they feel secure. But if they take a direct hit from something, They're going to end up in the opening.
Well if something large enough at a given speed moves them through the radiator you will have other damage as well. They are designed for a rational purpose. Take a look at the other thread - 1600$ rock.

That was not a large piece of debris and the zunsport would have no issues altering that path or outright stopping it. If one needs protection from large debris at speed, another vehicle will be a better choice. For 99.9% of drivers the Zunsport and others will suffice rather well.
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Well if something large enough at a given speed moves them through the radiator you will have other damage as well. They are designed for a rational purpose. Take a look at the other thread - 1600$ rock.

That was not a large piece of debris and the zunsport would have no issues altering that path or outright stopping it. If one needs protection from large debris at speed, another vehicle will be a better choice. For 99.9% of drivers the Zunsport and others will suffice rather well.
It doesn't have to be something large. I was washing the vehicle this weekend and the water from the hose moved them out of place (the outer grilles on the X3M). It's a flaw in their attachment design. I'm going to put some thin double-sided tape inside the "hook" and that should keep them more secure. The inner grilles came with a "clip" to secure one side to the vehicle trim piece.
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I have no doubt that the Zunsport grill would have stopped my $1600 rock. The mesh is tight enough and it feels sturdy enough.

Could something potentially go through still? Sure. If you have this concern, then go ahead and get the Mishimoto auxiliary radiators with the sturdy mesh grill attachment. That should stop almost anything.

If I ever pop another radiator I will definitely replace with Mishimoto.
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The zunsport units mounts from the front and has the gloss black bars of the inlet to “hold” it against going into the opening and hitting the radiators… right?
The stradale design ones are behind the gloss black bars and can really be pushed into the radiator if hit too hard from the front.
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The zunsport units mounts from the front and has the gloss black bars of the inlet to “hold” it against going into the opening and hitting the radiators… right?
The stradale design ones are behind the gloss black bars and can really be pushed into the radiator if hit too hard from the front.
My biggest fear with these is the air flow restrictions on hot days when pushing the car. As silly as it is, these cars were made like this for a purpose.

Yes it’s exposed and probably not the best thought behind it (although I personally love the design, very tuner-esque) but how do we know long term effects of the guards? Sure, it’s only tiny plastic, but it still restricts airflow to some degree.

Just my personal opinion.
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My biggest fear with these is the air flow restrictions on hot days when pushing the car. As silly as it is, these cars were made like this for a purpose.

Yes it’s exposed and probably not the best thought behind it (although I personally love the design, very tuner-esque) but how do we know long term effects of the guards? Sure, it’s only tiny plastic, but it still restricts airflow to some degree.

Just my personal opinion.
I posted in another thread on these that the same thing happened with the C8 Corvette. It has very large openings up front and on the sides with radiators, heat exchangers, etc. The aftermarket came out with some grilles and immediately the chief Corvette engineer came out and said they would restrict airflow and possibly void the warranty...until GM licensed the grilles and now sell them as an officially-licensed accessory. Now miraculously no more restriction in airflow or voided warranty.

BMW didn't install grilles 1. To cut costs & 2. As evidenced by the other thread, they're not going to cover the damage under warranty. So no reason to design & include grilles.
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