[Habber]

Hi Everyone,

I’ve had a bunch of F80, F87, G80 and now G87 (coming Thursday) and on all of them, I went into SP+ from day 1.

I never had issues however I think it was last year that someone posted about not going into SP+ until the break in service was done.

While I never had problems with any of my cars but I also ended up selling them after a very short ownership timeframe so I didn’t own them long enough to know if I possibly or potentially damaged the car had I owned them longer than I did.

My question to the M2 group is if anyone of you used SP+ from day 1 and have you had any issues.

I’m aware that most don’t use it every time like I did but I might be keeping this one longer than my others so I wanted to hear from whoever have used SP+ daily from day 1.

Thanks.

[MineralGreyMetallic]

If there was a problem using Sport+ before break-in it would be clearly stated in the manual, which it isn't, as far as I know.

In fact, you'd probably just straight up be locked out of it.

[Dbimmer]

As long as you keep the rpms below stated values before break in service should be good

[Carefree]

Why not ask someone at your dealership?

[Tag]

I always take it easy on a new car from day one, gradually varying the RPM and slowly working it up but not exceeding the recommended limit pre break-in. Even post break-in I exceed the break-in RPM limit but still gradually ease into for the next 300~500 miles before I ever go WOT. It's not just the engine but the entire drivetrain that's getting worked in. I'd avoid doing anything that has the potential to shock any part of the powertrain. But that's just me, it's your car, do whatever you like.

[Habber]

Originally Posted by Carefree

Why not ask someone at your dealership?

Hard to trust them all the time.

Some of the advisors tell me that the power is 100% available after the break in service and some tell me that power is the same before and after the break in service.

[Carefree]

Originally Posted by Habber

Hard to trust them all the time.

Some of the advisors tell me that the power is 100% available after the break in service and some tell me that power is the same before and after the break in service.

Given that, you’ll undoubtedly get a similar variance of responses here.

Good luck.

[ScottyRyan2019]

Originally Posted by Habber

Hard to trust them all the time.

Some of the advisors tell me that the power is 100% available after the break in service and some tell me that power is the same before and after the break in service.

It would be so easy to verify this and I believe more than one aftermarket company has disproven this by dynoing their car prior to the service being done.

Kind of like the old wive's tale that "Grandpa's Buick was a dog until 10K miles when it magically had a gazillion horsepower increase and can now beat any car out there."

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Habber

Hi Everyone,

I’ve had a bunch of F80, F87, G80 and now G87 (coming Thursday) and on all of them, I went into SP+ from day 1.

I never had issues however I think it was last year that someone posted about not going into SP+ until the break in service was done.

While I never had problems with any of my cars but I also ended up selling them after a very short ownership timeframe so I didn’t own them long enough to know if I possibly or potentially damaged the car had I owned them longer than I did.

My question to the M2 group is if anyone of you used SP+ from day 1 and have you had any issues.

I’m aware that most don’t use it every time like I did but I might be keeping this one longer than my others so I wanted to hear from whoever have used SP+ daily from day 1.

Thanks.

Yes, I did...and kept it in check until breakin service. From breakin to 2,000+ drove no holds barred. ECU came out and sent to femto at 2,000+.

[chris719]

Originally Posted by Carefree

Why not ask someone at your dealership?

Dealership employees know almost nothing about these cars. Owned M cars for almost 20 years, the forum members know infinitely more than 99.99% of them.

[iifymbro]

personally I wouldn't do it because of the hard high rpm downshifts that mode likes to do anytime you brake

[Drowsy]

So, I can tell you what happened to a person I spoke with one time when I was getting my car serviced. He bought a brand new G80 and drove it in Sport +. He drove it pretty aggressive but it didn't consist of drifting, doing dig runs, or any sort of racing. He said specifically "he would just mash on it on the freeway after like 15-20 minutes of driving to make sure the engine was "warm enough" in his words. Well 1 week later of ownership his Motor blew. Took them 3 months to get a new Engine delivered from Germany. However, it was covered under warranty surprisingly. I talked to him on the day he was picking up his somewhat "new" car after it was in service for nearly 4 months.

His car had around 480 miles

[Habber]

Originally Posted by Drowsy

So, I can tell you what happened to a person I spoke with one time when I was getting my car serviced. He bought a brand new G80 and drove it in Sport +. He drove it pretty aggressive but it didn't consist of drifting, doing dig runs, or any sort of racing. He said specifically "he would just mash on it on the freeway after like 15-20 minutes of driving to make sure the engine was "warm enough" in his words. Well 1 week later of ownership his Motor blew. Took them 3 months to get a new Engine delivered from Germany. However, it was covered under warranty surprisingly. I talked to him on the day he was picking up his somewhat "new" car after it was in service for nearly 4 months.

His car had around 480 miles

Wow. That’s an eye opener.

[Baller]

Originally Posted by iifymbro

personally I wouldn't do it because of the hard high rpm downshifts that mode likes to do anytime you brake

Lol

[Bumpinjeep]

Originally Posted by Habber

Hi Everyone,

I’ve had a bunch of F80, F87, G80 and now G87 (coming Thursday) and on all of them, I went into SP+ from day 1.

I never had issues however I think it was last year that someone posted about not going into SP+ until the break in service was done.

While I never had problems with any of my cars but I also ended up selling them after a very short ownership timeframe so I didn’t own them long enough to know if I possibly or potentially damaged the car had I owned them longer than I did.

My question to the M2 group is if anyone of you used SP+ from day 1 and have you had any issues.

I’m aware that most don’t use it every time like I did but I might be keeping this one longer than my others so I wanted to hear from whoever have used SP+ daily from day 1.

Thanks.

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[MineralGreyMetallic]

Originally Posted by Drowsy

So, I can tell you what happened to a person I spoke with one time when I was getting my car serviced. He bought a brand new G80 and drove it in Sport +. He drove it pretty aggressive but it didn't consist of drifting, doing dig runs, or any sort of racing. He said specifically "he would just mash on it on the freeway after like 15-20 minutes of driving to make sure the engine was "warm enough" in his words. Well 1 week later of ownership his Motor blew. Took them 3 months to get a new Engine delivered from Germany. However, it was covered under warranty surprisingly. I talked to him on the day he was picking up his somewhat "new" car after it was in service for nearly 4 months.

His car had around 480 miles

I've learned not to take anecdotes like this at face value. There's always way more to the story.

What does "drove it pretty aggressive" mean? Did he keep it under recommended RPMs during break-in?

What does "mash on it on the freeway" mean? Did he fully open the throttle, which you're also not supposed to do during break in?

Cognitive dissonance is real, and lots of people have a hard time admitting when they've done something wrong. And if that's true, do you think people will be 100% forthcoming when they recount their experiences?

I certainly don't.

Did he follow the rules and just have bad luck? Possibly.

Did he break the rules and now he's seeing the consequences of that? Possibly.

Who knows. Can't draw any conclusions. Just follow the rules yourself and err on the side of caution. That is the best you can do.

[Habber]

Originally Posted by M2siast

If you believe correlation equals causation, sure.

I do. I’m drinking the cool aid for sure.

I’m just going to Ferris Bueler the thing on blocks until I hit break in mileage.

[Drowsy]

Originally Posted by MineralGreyMetallic

I've learned not to take anecdotes like this at face value. There's always way more to the story.

What does "drove it pretty aggressive" mean? Did he keep it under recommended RPMs during break-in?

What does "mash on it on the freeway" mean? Did he fully open the throttle, which you're also not supposed to do during break in?

Cognitive dissonance is real, and lots of people have a hard time admitting when they've done something wrong. And if that's true, do you think people will be 100% forthcoming when they recount their experiences?

I certainly don't.

Did he follow the rules and just have bad luck? Possibly.

Did he break the rules and now he's seeing the consequences of that? Possibly.

Who knows. Can't draw any conclusions. Just follow the rules yourself and err on the side of caution. That is the best you can do.

Didn't dissect his story nor did I ask for an accurate depiction of his story. I personally wait for the break-in period but op was curious of SP+ so I just told him a story about 1 single guy's experience.

[chris719]

Originally Posted by Habber

I do. I’m drinking the cool aid for sure.

I’m just going to Ferris Bueler the thing on blocks until I hit break in mileage.

I'm not saying to disregard the instructions, but that was a flawed engine. They redline the engines at the factory and B58, B48, etc. normal variants all have no break-in instructions. It's a good guideline, helps people adjust to the car, and gives a psychological benefit to the owner because they think their M engine is more special. Which it is, but the pain of waiting 1200 miles adds to the experience. The way these engines are made regarding material quality, tolerances, etc. makes it incredibly unlikely you will have a problem if you don't adhere to the break-in instructions. The most important part of those instructions are simply changing the oil at 1200.

My old Z4M was revved to 8000 RPM with 17 miles on the odometer by a test driver that got a reckless driving charge. Was pulled over going 120 MPH. That engine was flawless while I owned it and burned no oil, somewhat rare for an S54.

[Ronin76]

Originally Posted by Habber

Hard to trust them all the time.

Some of the advisors tell me that the power is 100% available after the break in service and some tell me that power is the same before and after the break in service.

wouldn't you get similar responses here?

[Habber]

Originally Posted by Ronin76

wouldn't you get similar responses here?

Yes good point but was curious if anyone afdually had an issue that they knew was directly related to SP+.
All good now. I’ll play it safe and just keep
Revs down until it’s serviced.

[Ronin76]

Originally Posted by Habber

Yes good point but was curious if anyone afdually had an issue that they knew was directly related to SP+.
All good now. I’ll play it safe and just keep
Revs down until it’s serviced.

Yeah for a new car I would just take it easy. For some reason, everytime I rush into things, they never work out for me lol. I will be following Tag approach.