[lutfy]

Hey Peeps,

Decided to take the G87 to Summit Point to see what she could do. Won my (SCCA Sport 1) class by 3/4 of a second over a 2022 GT4 (best of 1:20.6) and surprised myself with how good the vehicle is.

OEM brakes/tires and the only 2 settings I had changed were DSC off and M mode on 5/10 along with Sport+ on suspension setting.

The car handles really well (weighed in at 3960lbs with me in it) and goes like stink!

With better Cup tires, this would be a weapon!

Action at 6:30 second mark....

Cheers

[BackOnBlack]

Just superb driving, so enjoyable to watch

[vranko]

Nice laps! I get my G87 in a few days and I'll be hopefully on SP in a few weeks.

[BackOnBlack]

Originally Posted by vranko

Nice laps! I get my G87 in a few days and I'll be hopefully on SP in a few weeks.

Noooo, this cannot be! Sold the Supra!?

Congratulations on the G87, great choice!

[GT3M2]

Check your rear brake pads, running that much traction control your right rear is probably pretty heavily worn.

Great vid

-GT3M2

[BackOnBlack]

Originally Posted by GT3M2

Check your rear brake pads, running that much traction control your right rear is probably pretty heavily worn.

Great vid

-GT3M2

I thought that traction control, after DSC is turned off, is supposed to adjust the e-diff, and not do torque-vectoring via brakes. Is that not the case?

[lutfy]

Originally Posted by GT3M2

Check your rear brake pads, running that much traction control your right rear is probably pretty heavily worn.

Great vid

-GT3M2

DSC off. Rear brakes are in pretty good shape (wear wise). Checked both sides, looks like at least 8mm or so remain.

[turo]

Wow, nice job!! I’m itching to try my hand at tracking this car, and summit point is where I thought of going. Looks like a really twisty, fun track!

[BackOnBlack]

Originally Posted by turo

Wow, nice job!! I’m itching to try my hand at tracking this car, and summit point is where I thought of going. Looks like a really twisty, fun track!

It is moderately technical and difficulty track, and it is superbly fun. BMW CCA has a May event, come out It does not get as crowded as the session you see in the video.

[turo]

Originally Posted by BackOnBlack

It is moderately technical and difficulty track, and it is superbly fun. BMW CCA has a May event, come out It does not get as crowded as the session you see in the video.

I may have to check it out. Thanks for the tip!

Any other tracks in the area that are less technical (for a beginner)?

[BackOnBlack]

Originally Posted by turo

I may have to check it out. Thanks for the tip!

Any other tracks in the area that are less technical (for a beginner)?

Frankly, the track is not important, all have their easy and complex parts. The more important part for beginners is the club you go with; of course, just in my opinion. The clubs provide instructors that ride with you, helping you with all aspects, so you can just focus on driving.

The two clubs that have the best instructors, IMHO, and in no way discounting how good of a driver and instructor Lutfy is (I believe instructs with the SCCA and NASA), are the BMW CCA and the PCA. These two clubs take instructing to coaching level and do it seriously.

The local BMW CCA, the NCC, this weekend had their beginners event at Summit Point Jefferson circuit, and the PCA had it last weekend. However, you can sign up to any event, and you won’t be disappointed.

Edit: This is a good read --> https://www.nccbmwcca.org/2022/02/12/31925-2/

[xps]

Originally Posted by lutfy

Hey Peeps,

Decided to take the G87 to Summit Point to see what she could do. Won my (SCCA Sport 1) class by 3/4 of a second over a 2022 GT4 (best of 1:20.6) and surprised myself with how good the vehicle is.

OEM brakes/tires and the only 2 settings I had changed were DSC off and M mode on 5/10 along with Sport+ on suspension setting.

The car handles really well (weighed in at 3960lbs with me in it) and goes like stink!

With better Cup tires, this would be a weapon!

Action at 6:30 second mark....

Cheers

what setup are you using to capture video and how do you get this m-performance overlay?

[M2M3M3]

Originally Posted by lutfy

Hey Peeps,

Decided to take the G87 to Summit Point to see what she could do. Won my (SCCA Sport 1) class by 3/4 of a second over a 2022 GT4 (best of 1:20.6) and surprised myself with how good the vehicle is.

OEM brakes/tires and the only 2 settings I had changed were DSC off and M mode on 5/10 along with Sport+ on suspension setting.

The car handles really well (weighed in at 3960lbs with me in it) and goes like stink!

With better Cup tires, this would be a weapon!

Action at 6:30 second mark....

Cheers

Cruising this forum waiting for M2 to be built. LOL.. as a 20yr SCCA instructor, I was at this event. Normally drive my 95 M3 race car or 97 M3 "street" car, but looking forward to trying the M2 next season!

What video/ Data system do you use?

[M2M3M3]

Duh.... looked on bottom right of video and saw what the app was.

Looks like simple solution... if it does lap times.

Or may just do a Solo2 DL.

[lutfy]

Originally Posted by M2M3M3

Duh.... looked on bottom right of video and saw what the app was.

Looks like simple solution... if it does lap times.

Or may just do a Solo2 DL.

I had Solo 2 DL with the SmartyCam3 in the race car.

This is a much simpler solution using Ram Mount, my IPhone and the BMW Drive Analyzer app. The OBD plug costs around $250 and does everything for me except lap times which I used the dash app to monitor.

I liked the simplicity!

Cheers.

[M2M3M3]

Originally Posted by lutfy

I had Solo 2 DL with the SmartyCam3 in the race car.

This is a much simpler solution using Ram Mount, my IPhone and the BMW Drive Analyzer app. The OBD plug costs around $250 and does everything for me except lap times which I used the dash app to monitor.

I liked the simplicity!

Cheers.

yeah, have full AIM MXS and SC3 in the race car. had been just sticking a gopro and one of the Data Coaching Solo2's in the other car but never bothered with the data video integration for that one. would be nice if the drive analyzer app did lap times...

[Dr Thrillride]

Originally Posted by lutfy

Hey Peeps,

Decided to take the G87 to Summit Point to see what she could do. Won my (SCCA Sport 1) class by 3/4 of a second over a 2022 GT4 (best of 1:20.6) and surprised myself with how good the vehicle is.

OEM brakes/tires and the only 2 settings I had changed were DSC off and M mode on 5/10 along with Sport+ on suspension setting.

The car handles really well (weighed in at 3960lbs with me in it) and goes like stink!

With better Cup tires, this would be a weapon!

Action at 6:30 second mark....

Cheers

Thanks for sharing. Exactly what I was looking for in the M2 forum.

Some dicey, cluster-fuck, point-to-pass driving in there by others. Good for you for mixing it up. You’re a brave man. Was that the fast group or? Some cars/drivers didn’t belong in that group.

Nice to see you and your M2 keep with the Z06. I don’t know what a good time is at that track, but you’d be a better driver than the Z06 driver to keep with that car.

Are you on PS4s? If not what do you run? I’ll try to find your build page after I post this.

I ask because my SA offered me their 2025 CS allocation and I’m curious atm.

When I review posts on the forum, looks to be a lot of fiddle fucking with suspension and brakes. I’ve solved those issues in my current ride, except I’m stuck running slower Hankooks on the front for increased longevity.

Surprised at the weight of the M2 though, even laden with driver. This car is supposed to far more nimble than its heavier M cousins, but 3950 is not that light, especially compared to that Z06 you were keeping with.

Thanks again

[M2M3M3]

Originally Posted by Dr Thrillride

Thanks for sharing. Exactly what I was looking for in the M2 forum.

Some dicey, cluster-fuck, point-to-pass driving in there by others. Good for you for mixing it up. You’re a brave man. Was that the fast group or? Some cars/drivers didn’t belong in that group.

Nice to see you and your M2 keep with the Z06. I don’t know what a good time is at that track, but you’d be a better driver than the Z06 driver to keep with that car.

Are you on PS4s? If not what do you run? I’ll try to find your build page after I post this.

I ask because my SA offered me their 2025 CS allocation and I’m curious atm.

When I review posts on the forum, looks to be a lot of fiddle fucking with suspension and brakes. I’ve solved those issues in my current ride, except I’m stuck running slower Hankooks on the front for increased longevity.

Surprised at the weight of the M2 though, even laden with driver. This car is supposed to far more nimble than its heavier M cousins, but 3950 is not that light, especially compared to that Z06 you were keeping with.

Thanks again

https://youtu.be/VNg6ZzMNf9Q?si=fM1CDJG5935VV5Tb

This is what I like to see in these forums too! I am not a fan of bolting useless carbon bits on a car to win a car show. Using cars on track for what they are intended for is where it is at!

Using a Catalyst? What run group was that?

Hmmmm...I don't see anything dicey in OP's session. Point bys are required and were given quickly. We don't set run groups by car, they are by driver so you get Miatas and vettes. With clear track, the fast cars are sub 1:20. most all of those drivers know each other very well and they are good. I run with them every event. That was probably an advanced group session with a bunch of instructors mixed in.

[M2M3M3]

Same track, different weekend, less traffic. One of my E36 M3's. Can't wait to get an M2 out there like yall!

[lutfy]

Originally Posted by M2M3M3

Same track, different weekend, less traffic. One of my E36 M3's. Can't wait to get an M2 out there like yall!

Ah Marshall this is Ahmad. We raced head to head back in 2005/2006 in I Stock with another yellow car in class.

You’ll like this car, the lap times are not consistent though (big heavy car with street tires etc).

See you soon!

[lutfy]

Originally Posted by M2M3M3

This is what I like to see in these forums too! I am not a fan of bolting useless carbon bits on a car to win a car show. Using cars on track for what they are intended for is where it is at!

Using a Catalyst? What run group was that?

Hmmmm...I don't see anything dicey in OP's session. Point bys are required and were given quickly. We don't set run groups by car, they are by driver so you get Miatas and vettes. With clear track, the fast cars are sub 1:20. most all of those drivers know each other very well and they are good. I run with them every event. That was probably an advanced group session with a bunch of instructors mixed in.

Correct. There is a level of trust and respect with the group. Some may wait to give you a point by where they are not overslowed and it’s OK.

It was my first time out in a street car after almost a decade of competition so I was positioning the car for passes (slow down then throttle up post apex). May be aggressive and I apologize but will get back to DE level.

Car was stock including brake fluid, brakes, tires.

[M2M3M3]

Originally Posted by lutfy

Ah Marshall this is Ahmad. We raced head to head back in 2005/2006 in I Stock with another yellow car in class.

You’ll like this car, the lap times are not consistent though (big heavy car with street tires etc).

See you soon!

Ah yes!!! Back when I had the black 325!
I have order in for PBM, waiting for a dec allocation. On track with it in spring is the goal.