[Montaver]

To me, I just enjoy driving manuals. My last two cars were GT4’s and I enjoy the G87. Go to rennlist and you will see people complaining about the GT4 shift action as well which makes no sense to me. There is much more to it than just the manual shift action, gear ratios, throttle response, clutch weight and feel, engine sound etc. are all equally important when it comes to the drivetrain as it’s how the whole package feels. Sure you can get a Civic type R which has a great shift action but it’s a 2L turbo with FWD.

[x622]

Originally Posted by RandomBro

What exactly seems to be wrong with yours?

It's notchy, hard to go into gear no matter what shifter is on there. Sometimes will pop out of first, and no the rod doesn't adjust any further. Clutch has a strange engagement point that seems like it moves, and yes I've bled and refilled the clutch lines.

It's by far the biggest gripe I have about this car, followed by the stupid rev-limiter that drops to 5k when you're trying to control a slide at 6k+

[Dave07997S]

I learned to love the shifters in BMWs. I had 2 E46 M3s, 2 E92 M3s all bought new. I have to say the shift feel for the G87 feels more connected than those cars did. I also have owned Mustangs as well as a Porsche 911. The 911 and the Mustang even though it was an MT82D4 did feel better than the new shifter with the G87. That being said I like it, it gets the job done.

[ednir98]

At this point I'm just thankful they still offer a manual. At least this is a conversation of "what parts to upgrade" instead of "how to manual swap a G87".

[RandomBro]

Originally Posted by x622

It's notchy, hard to go into gear no matter what shifter is on there. Sometimes will pop out of first, and no the rod doesn't adjust any further. Clutch has a strange engagement point that seems like it moves, and yes I've bled and refilled the clutch lines.

It's by far the biggest gripe I have about this car, followed by the stupid rev-limiter that drops to 5k when you're trying to control a slide at 6k+

Hmmm we have the same kit. I've experienced 0 of the issues the rogue is notchy, but for me in a good way. I appreciate knowing my shifter is in gear properly vs stock. It never pops out at all. I have 100% confidence in it. I can shift hard on any gear over 2nd with no issue. Same with clutch pretty easy to manage with CDV out.

Maybe you do have an odd one... sorry to hear man.

[captain slowly]

I owned a F87 manual for 3 years, had a ITS for a while, and drove a friends G87 manual before ordering my '25 M2 auto. There is no comparison between the shifter and more importantly the gear ratios. The ITS is light years better. The manual in the F87 and G87 feels like an afterthought. Shift action sucked, gear ratios were all off.... I like manuals, but not this one. Get the ZF or stick with your FL5

[RandomBro]

Originally Posted by captain slowly

I owned a F87 manual for 3 years, had a ITS for a while, and drove a friends G87 manual before ordering my '25 M2 auto. There is no comparison between the shifter and more importantly the gear ratios. The ITS is light years better. The manual in the F87 and G87 feels like an afterthought. Shift action sucked, gear ratios were all off.... I like manuals, but not this one. Get the ZF or stick with your FL5

Rogue SS kit makes the 6MT in the G87 just as good as the ITS. I had an ITS.