bimmerpost/
BMW M2 and 2-Series Coupe
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts
home
BMW M2 Forums 2023+ (G87) Engine, Exhaust, Drivetrain, Tuning Modifications

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      09-23-2024, 05:15 PM   #1
Lost23
Private
Lost23's Avatar
77
Rep
93
Posts

Drives: 24 G87
Join Date: Jun 2023
Location: Long Island

iTrader: (0)

Review: G87 LCI Flash +CS/CSL Transmission Flash by kubax86

First thanks to e90ftw for posting about this and making the community aware of it.

24 G87 is totally stock and currently have no plans to do a full DME unlock. I figured this was a nice option to keep the cars software updated and not a terrible amount of risk. I checked out the options and gave kubax86(bimmer remote coding) a try.
Like e90ftw said the power from 2000 rpms has improved. There was kind of a dead spot/lag until it got higher in the rpms before. New flash is super smooth like a stock map should be. The transmission seems to shift smoother in normal mode and faster and smoother in M1 sport settings.
You don't need anything fancy to get the flash. Your DME doesn't need to be unlocked. Just a laptop, good network connection and the obd to rj45 cable. Kubax86 works fast and communicated with me while he was working. Car was done faster then I expected. I am personally happy with the results.
Appreciate 4
e90ftw82.50
myaghi99.00
71dsp99.00
      09-23-2024, 06:08 PM   #2
Dave07997S
Brigadier General
Dave07997S's Avatar
1254
Rep
4,338
Posts

Drives: 2024 BMW M2 Toronto Red 6MT
Join Date: May 2009
Location: El Segundo, CA

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lost23 View Post
First thanks to e90ftw for posting about this and making the community aware of it.

24 G87 is totally stock and currently have no plans to do a full DME unlock. I figured this was a nice option to keep the cars software updated and not a terrible amount of risk. I checked out the options and gave kubax86(bimmer remote coding) a try.
Like e90ftw said the power from 2000 rpms has improved. There was kind of a dead spot/lag until it got higher in the rpms before. New flash is super smooth like a stock map should be. The transmission seems to shift smoother in normal mode and faster and smoother in M1 sport settings.
You don't need anything fancy to get the flash. Your DME doesn't need to be unlocked. Just a laptop, good network connection and the obd to rj45 cable. Kubax86 works fast and communicated with me while he was working. Car was done faster then I expected. I am personally happy with the results.
My car is a manual and I am going this route as well.
__________________
2024 BMW M2 Toronto Red 6MT
(Sold) 2020 Ford Mustang GT 6MT PP1 444rwhp
2013 M3 Coupe-MR/BLK ZCP, 2011 M3 Coupe-MR/Blk
2007 Porsche 997C2S Speed Yellow/Blk sport seats
2004 BMW M3 Imola/Blk, 2001 BMW M3
Appreciate 2
Lost2377.00
      09-24-2024, 02:47 AM   #3
kubax86
BIMMERPOST Sponsor
kubax86's Avatar
No_Country
2016
Rep
3,277
Posts

Drives: M2
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: World

iTrader: (8)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lost23 View Post
First thanks to e90ftw for posting about this and making the community aware of it.

24 G87 is totally stock and currently have no plans to do a full DME unlock. I figured this was a nice option to keep the cars software updated and not a terrible amount of risk. I checked out the options and gave kubax86(bimmer remote coding) a try.
Like e90ftw said the power from 2000 rpms has improved. There was kind of a dead spot/lag until it got higher in the rpms before. New flash is super smooth like a stock map should be. The transmission seems to shift smoother in normal mode and faster and smoother in M1 sport settings.
You don't need anything fancy to get the flash. Your DME doesn't need to be unlocked. Just a laptop, good network connection and the obd to rj45 cable. Kubax86 works fast and communicated with me while he was working. Car was done faster then I expected. I am personally happy with the results.
Thanks for your review and using my services!
Appreciate 1
Lost2377.00
      09-24-2024, 08:03 AM   #4
BroDoze
Colonel
2140
Rep
2,279
Posts

Drives: 2025 M2 LCI
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: CO

iTrader: (0)

kubax86 will you be able to perform the CS/CSL steering and ZF8 flash on the 2025 M2 LCIs? Interested in those 2 straight away as soon as I pick up the car.
__________________
///M
Appreciate 0
      09-24-2024, 08:22 AM   #5
kubax86
BIMMERPOST Sponsor
kubax86's Avatar
No_Country
2016
Rep
3,277
Posts

Drives: M2
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: World

iTrader: (8)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BroDoze View Post
kubax86 will you be able to perform the CS/CSL steering and ZF8 flash on the 2025 M2 LCIs? Interested in those 2 straight away as soon as I pick up the car.
Yes
Appreciate 1
BroDoze2140.00
      09-26-2024, 09:33 AM   #6
AMGM2
New Member
20
Rep
18
Posts

Drives: Mercedes C63/A45S/M2
Join Date: Jul 2024
Location: Canberra

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by kubax86 View Post
Yes
Hi mate, I have a 2024 G87 6MT with the Race Chip tune. Just wondering if there is any benefit if I get LCI or CS/CSL flash. I would like to achieve improved low-end power and better and smoother driveability.
Appreciate 0
      09-26-2024, 10:03 AM   #7
BroDoze
Colonel
2140
Rep
2,279
Posts

Drives: 2025 M2 LCI
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: CO

iTrader: (0)

B58 swap.

j/k
__________________
///M
Appreciate 0
      09-30-2024, 02:24 PM   #8
G87DRVR
Private
121
Rep
66
Posts

Drives: G87 Frozen Pure Grey
Join Date: Jun 2024
Location: Belgium

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lost23 View Post
First thanks to e90ftw for posting about this and making the community aware of it.

24 G87 is totally stock and currently have no plans to do a full DME unlock. I figured this was a nice option to keep the cars software updated and not a terrible amount of risk. I checked out the options and gave kubax86(bimmer remote coding) a try.
Like e90ftw said the power from 2000 rpms has improved. There was kind of a dead spot/lag until it got higher in the rpms before. New flash is super smooth like a stock map should be. The transmission seems to shift smoother in normal mode and faster and smoother in M1 sport settings.
You don't need anything fancy to get the flash. Your DME doesn't need to be unlocked. Just a laptop, good network connection and the obd to rj45 cable. Kubax86 works fast and communicated with me while he was working. Car was done faster then I expected. I am personally happy with the results.
I have already CS/CSL flash on trans etc. Will this be overwritten with the 2025 file?
Appreciate 0
      09-30-2024, 04:47 PM   #9
kubax86
BIMMERPOST Sponsor
kubax86's Avatar
No_Country
2016
Rep
3,277
Posts

Drives: M2
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: World

iTrader: (8)

Quote:
Originally Posted by G87DRVR View Post
I have already CS/CSL flash on trans etc. Will this be overwritten with the 2025 file?
It won't be
Appreciate 2
G87DRVR120.50
Mkai035.50
      10-06-2024, 03:38 AM   #10
mtenhoven
Private First Class
mtenhoven's Avatar
United_States
132
Rep
182
Posts

Drives: 2023 Z4 sDrive30i & 2024 M2
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Chicagoland

iTrader: (0)

Had kubax86 upload the 2025 LCI DME file. I'm pleased to say the experience was super easy. With limited drive time, I'd say there is a difference in the low rpm range as others have mentioned previously. Car feels smoother without a ”soft" spot that seemed present before. I have the 8AT. Now it's not a night and day power difference, but I knew that going in.

Last edited by mtenhoven; 10-06-2024 at 03:39 AM..
Appreciate 2
kubax862016.00
Lost2377.00
      10-08-2024, 06:36 AM   #11
kubax86
BIMMERPOST Sponsor
kubax86's Avatar
No_Country
2016
Rep
3,277
Posts

Drives: M2
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: World

iTrader: (8)

Quote:
Originally Posted by mtenhoven View Post
Had kubax86 upload the 2025 LCI DME file. I'm pleased to say the experience was super easy. With limited drive time, I'd say there is a difference in the low rpm range as others have mentioned previously. Car feels smoother without a ”soft" spot that seemed present before. I have the 8AT. Now it's not a night and day power difference, but I knew that going in.
Thanks for your honest recommendation.
For special discount for both CS + DME LCI flash please inquiry via email info@bimmer-remote.com or PM
Appreciate 2
71dsp99.00
mtenhoven131.50
      10-21-2024, 05:08 PM   #12
Granelli
Registered
12
Rep
2
Posts

Drives: g87 m2
Join Date: Oct 2024
Location: North America

iTrader: (0)

I just had the LCI & CSL Steering, trans, dsc flash done to my 23 m2.

The STEERING is definitely noticeable and MUCH better. The car goes where I want it without all the previous micro corrections. It feels heavier on center, weights up quicker, and generally a huge improvement. Before I didn't like taking my eyes off the road at all because the car would drift in the lane.

Transmission seems to simply be better and operate more smoothly. Quicker and less disturbing shifts. Downshifts seems better. No complaints and nothing weird at all.

The DSC is interesting. Between the steering and smoother power (More on that later), the car is easier to rotate and place in a turn. It will slip a little more around the turn in a good way.

The LCI/DME tune is good and helps the car a lot. Smoother power, no dead spot like before, and overall very noticeable.

I did not have the CSL Suspension flash nor the Diff. I think this is the sweet spot on a stock setup. Overall the car feels like it has jumped up a class or at least gotten the last bits of refinement. Can't say enough about the steering, the car is much better to drive.

Overall the process was super easy, professional, and I am a happy customer.
Appreciate 6
Lost2377.00
BroDoze2140.00
kubax862016.00
Resoelg324.00
mtenhoven131.50
      10-21-2024, 09:43 PM   #13
BroDoze
Colonel
2140
Rep
2,279
Posts

Drives: 2025 M2 LCI
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: CO

iTrader: (0)

^^ Great review - thanks!
__________________
///M
Appreciate 0
      10-21-2024, 09:54 PM   #14
curtdragon
Car'a'carn
659
Rep
1,011
Posts

Drives: I drive one
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Nashville

iTrader: (0)

I ordered a manual so only the steering would need to be updated. I'm interested in seeing how this will be when I get my car.
Appreciate 1
      10-22-2024, 08:24 AM   #15
BroDoze
Colonel
2140
Rep
2,279
Posts

Drives: 2025 M2 LCI
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: CO

iTrader: (0)

Bout ready to pull the trigger on the steering flash.
__________________
///M
Appreciate 1
kubax862016.00
      10-22-2024, 10:21 AM   #16
kubax86
BIMMERPOST Sponsor
kubax86's Avatar
No_Country
2016
Rep
3,277
Posts

Drives: M2
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: World

iTrader: (8)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BroDoze View Post
Bout ready to pull the trigger on the steering flash.
Thank you!
Appreciate 0
      10-24-2024, 09:46 AM   #17
sebaflex
Lieutenant
sebaflex's Avatar
134
Rep
403
Posts

Drives: E46 M3
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: San Juan PR

iTrader: (0)

Is it possible to load the 8AT LCI Flash tune into the Manual cars ?
Appreciate 0
      10-24-2024, 10:03 AM   #18
curtdragon
Car'a'carn
659
Rep
1,011
Posts

Drives: I drive one
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Nashville

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by sebaflex View Post
Is it possible to load the 8AT LCI Flash tune into the Manual cars ?
Seriously? 🤦🏾‍♂️
Appreciate 0
      10-24-2024, 01:20 PM   #19
mynameisnick4
Second Lieutenant
258
Rep
291
Posts

Drives: 2023 M2
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: Pittsburgh

iTrader: (0)

I am interested in this but have a few questions:
  1. Will the dealer be able to see this change was made?
  2. What happens if/when the flash gets reset by the dealer?
  3. Is there a way we can verify the flash is still in place after a dealer service?
  4. Will OTA software updates reset this?
Appreciate 1
      10-24-2024, 01:52 PM   #20
sebaflex
Lieutenant
sebaflex's Avatar
134
Rep
403
Posts

Drives: E46 M3
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: San Juan PR

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by curtdragon View Post
Seriously? 🤦🏾‍♂️
Yes, as you probably know by now Automatic cars get more torque from factory on the new LCI cars. The question is if the engine tune from the Automatics be flashed on to the manual cars as well so that we could also benefit from the extra torque, it doesn’t seem to be an issue on aftermarket tunes.
Appreciate 0
      10-24-2024, 02:14 PM   #21
curtdragon
Car'a'carn
659
Rep
1,011
Posts

Drives: I drive one
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Nashville

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by sebaflex View Post
Yes, as you probably know by now Automatic cars get more torque from factory on the new LCI cars. The question is if the engine tune from the Automatics be flashed on to the manual cars as well so that we could also benefit from the extra torque, it doesn’t seem to be an issue on aftermarket tunes.
Sure but that's aftermarket. They can flash whatever you want.
I really doubt they would make the package work for manual transmissions as the 2025 manual doesn't get more torque. It's most likely flashing both the ecu and TCU or the ECU itself has flags for auto vs manual and will fail.

This is just my guess but I'm sure the people flashing will probably tell you the same
Appreciate 0
      10-27-2024, 06:50 AM   #22
HiFi
Lieutenant
499
Rep
572
Posts

Drives: 2023 BMW M3
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Australia

iTrader: (0)

It's not flashing the ECU and tcu they are completely different firmwares and independent of each other. It's a valid question . If the OEM auto tune could be added to the manual then that's a hp and torque increase ...
__________________
2023 G80 M3 6MT (Sold)
2025 G87 M2 6MT (Incoming)
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:13 AM.




g87
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST