[M5Rick]

Nothing is like the driven snow in F1, people have real lives making a living so sod their millions LOL Now news is saying Brown is resigned from Andretti so make of that what you will, I'm going to sleep soon.

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Yes I agree , Red Bull screwed up the car completely with a fundamental design flaw because the Frenchman Pierre Waché really s@cks and he will s@ck again with the new planned COTA upgrades ...
Waché is not the new A.Newey...

I'm pretty sure you mean the RB20...

Horner said they tracked the car problems back to the Barcelona floor update to the RB19. Clearly they have carried either the same floor, or a similar design, onto the RB20.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by dfox

Horner said they tracked the car problems back to the Barcelona floor update to the RB19. Clearly they have carried either the same floor, or a similar design, onto the RB20.

It's always a very bad sign if you had to remove all your new upgrades .
That's what they had to do , to make the car drivable again .
In other words : Back to ZERO and a new shot in the dark...

IMHO, it won't be easy to close a 30 sec. race pace gap and to make the tires last forever like the Papaya bullet car .

#MissionImpossible (!)

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Agreed, hopefully they can figure it out... but I guess my bigger point is, RB admitted that's when they started the screw up, and if you look at the race results, aside from Checo's crash in Monaco, he had been doing really well up until that point, trading wins with Max. The car took a turn for the worse at that point and while Max was able to drive around the issue, Checo wasn't. If they can fix this, we could see a return to form for Checo. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by dfox

Why is it "a sham"? Carlos Slim is a successful business man who can feel free to invest how he likes. Is it just because his companies are based in Mexico?

RB admitted that Checo called them out on the mistakes they made on the RB19 that caused his poor driving. They continued to screw up the car by ignoring him to the point that now even Max has issues. Checo is not blameless in this situation, but neither is RB and the RB leadership have admitted it.

So long as any drivers/teams sponsorship does not trace back to human rights abuses like we have seen previously in the middle east.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

It's always a very bad sign if you had to remove all your new upgrades .
That's what they had to do , to make the car drivable again .
In other words : Back to ZERO and a new shot in the dark...

IMHO, it won't be easy to close a 30 sec. race pace gap and to make the tires last forever like the Papaya bullet car .

#MissionImpossible (!)

Wache can always blame it on Newey saying it was his revenge for being taken over by him and thus leaving, the now over rich SOAB

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

So long as any drivers/teams sponsorship does not trace back to human rights abuses like we have seen previously in the middle east.

I think Zhou's sponsors would be the ones you'd have to dig into first. His father is a wealthy Chinese businessman, and you don't get to do that in China unless...

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by dfox

I think Zhou's sponsors would be the ones you'd have to dig into first. His father is a wealthy Chinese businessman, and you don't get to do that in China unless...

Copy that.

[GuidoK]

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by FC4

What a legend. With his accomplishments and character, he left an immensely positive mark on F1 over the last 14 years.

Shame on Red Bull for the joke of a sendoff. What a trash organization at every level.

Oh I don't know.

He or his camp had to have known that the writing was on the wall with regards to RB having to make a decision on Lawson in September.

I like him, but he was given an opportunity to get back with RB and he did not deliver. It's really that simple. You beat Yuki every time, score some points and you're in. That's it. Just perform. RIC simply doesn't have to skillset to drive these "ground effect era" cars.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by NickyC

So Perez keeps his seat but DR gets the axe. Make it make sense.

Ya it does because RIC wasn't good enough to take it from Perez. Checo's clock is ticking as well.